Re: Self Defense vs Assault
Thank you so much for your insightful reply.
The fact that he 'accepts" himself that he hit me, even if after I threatened him with a razor( which isn't true), does not make any difference?
And will any person threaten and then cut herself?!
I wish I had called 911 at the same time and had not taken such things from him ever before. It wasn't the first time he has hit me. He wrote to my mother in India accepting that he has hit me twice but gave reasons each time for his acts!
Can his those mails serve as some proof?
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And will any person threaten and then cut herself?!
People committing suicide frequently try to take others with them.
Re: Self Defense vs Assault
When someone is attempting suicide, they are attempting to take life. They are unpredictable and there for any action by anyone around can be considered self defense. It can also be looked at as attempting to save life.
Being your planning on leaving in a short time from now. Can hamper the possibilty to charge and convict a person. Being you will not be around for any court hearings to testify.
So yes you planning on leaving the country can have wieght on the decission whether or not to charge your boyfriend with a crime or not.
Re: Self Defense vs Assault
I think you need to stay away from this person. Being as you stated he has hit you twice before why would you even be around him? I know there are women who keep putting themselves in abusive relationships but sometimes you need to sit back and look at things. I mean didnt you say you thought you were pregnant and then proceeded to cut your wrists with a razor?? I probably would have hit you in the head if that were true. Wake up, time is better spent on anything else than the drama your life is filled with. Live your life to be happy take away all those negative things.
Re: Self Defense vs Assault
Thank you for this reply.
I had a discussion with the investigating officer today and he said he has written in his statement that since my blood was pouring on him and he did not want that, he pushed me as he wanted to get away from me. And that makes his stand that of defending himself! I never mentioned that my blood was pouring on him Does the onus to prove that falls on him?
The bumbs on my head cannot be considered as fresh marks of that incident!
Any ideas or standpoint please.
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I never mentioned that my blood was pouring on him Does the onus to prove that falls on him?
He realistically only needs to show that you had injuries. Juries are smart enough to figure out that injuries bleed, and that other people won't want blood on them. He doesn't have to prove that there was a blood fountain.
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The bumbs on my head cannot be considered as fresh marks of that incident!
That's for the jury to decide.
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Thank you again for the reply.
So if blood is pouring on him he can push me away and that is self-defense not assault? Though after that he hit me multiple times. I think I can see the loop holes and his encashing them! But want to reconfirm....
Second, his mails to my mother where he states he hit me cause he wanted me to hate him, cannot be proof?
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Thank you again for the reply.
So if blood is pouring on him he can push me away and that is self-defense not assault? Though after that he hit me multiple times. I think I can see the loop holes and his encashing them! But want to reconfirm....
Second, his mails to my mother where he states he hit me cause he wanted me to hate him, cannot be proof?
Dear..You do realize that the police could very well take you to a hospital for a mental health evaluation...don't you? Your actions show you are a danger to yourself and your unborn child. Please stay away from this man and get some help for yourself.
Good luck
Bay
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Thank you again for the reply.
So if blood is pouring on him he can push me away and that is self-defense not assault?
Blood getting on him or not isn't that relevent but....Yes. Once you cut your wrists, you are the legal equivalent of a rabid dog - capable of anything - and anyone around you has ample reasonable cause to be afraid of what you'll do next, to yourself or to them. It's all well and good to rationalize after the fact, but people get to take extreme action at a lot of levels when confronted with someone bleeding due to self inflicted razor wounds - whether that involves keeping you away from them, or whether it involves trying to stop you from hurting yourself further (for instance, police might taze you to get you to drop the razor if being uncooperative, not out of fear of you hurting them, but to disarm you asap).
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Though after that he hit me multiple times. I think I can see the loop holes and his encashing them! But want to reconfirm....
He may or may not be able to justify it - that'll be up to a jury to decide. He'll get a LOT of leeway considering he was dealing with someone willing to injure themselves - that in and of itself puts your credibility of events at about zero, no matter how truthful. Everything after that is going to be seen as one party being "crazy", and the other party not.
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Second, his mails to my mother where he states he hit me cause he wanted me to hate him, cannot be proof?
If they get admitted into evidence. But keep in mind that NEITHER of you has BEEN charged as of yet. It's possible that NEITHER of you will - or that BOTH of you will. Bottom line is that you have no say or control over whether he'll ever be charged or not. Spend your time addressing what's going on with YOU.
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Thank you once again.
Yes you are right. The issue is with me and I need to deal with it.
It was an abusive relation of months and at last when I could gather courage to file complaint I am not able to prove it as I too did crazy things.
1.Its been crazy. I used to stay at his place. Went to hospital from his place for some complication after a 911 call, he was with me all time in hospital when I did not want him there and soon after, within 2 hrs of discharge ( when again he was there) when I go to his place to talk, he calls 911 and I am arrested for trespassing.
2. He gets me bailed out, he gets the charges dropped!
3. Again hits me after letting me in his apartment like an animal and justifies he wants me to hate him! I hang myself the next day, sick of being battered so many times and being treated like dirt. End up in Psychic ward. He again comes there even when I tell him I don't want to see his face.
4. Gets me discharged, talk for hours, when again there is argument calls 911 after pushing and choking me cause I am near his apartment, Not on his property though. With bleeding lips, I say nothing.
5. I snap all ties and try to move on. Pregnancy is another blow. Again arguments and bashing. Hits me when we both thought I was pregnant.
Nothing comes out. He is smart and cold blooded.
But anyway, thank you. I think I can not hold him accountable for anything and the only option I have is to close my eyes to this and try to move on....