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  • 07-20-2009, 05:51 PM
    That Guy
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    You are wrong... a cop CAN drop a case. I have had a ticket where I was found guilty in a TBWD and I requested a Trial de Novo. Before the trial date arrived, I got a letter in the mail saying that the cop requested my ticket be dismissed in the interest of justice. And it was.

    Also, I had a friend's ticket dismissed AFTER he was found guilty!!! See my thread here.

    Jim, I find it extremely interesting that you are ~almost~ always preaching that the courts and law enforcement should stick to the laws the way they are written... ~almost~ always complaining about incompetent cops and crooked judges... ~almost~ always acting as a big proponent for justice and equality under the law... And yet when the rules are bent in your favor, or in your friend's favor, then that makes it all good and dandy.

    A cop, and once the citation is filed in court, is merely a "witness". If you can explain & enlighten me as to what part of the legal justice system in this country gives a "witness" the ability to decide whether a case is worthy of prosecution or not, then I would greatly appreciate it. On second thought, I'll spare you the trouble... No need to explain anything!

    Also, let me note that the OP, and his most recent post quoted a letter from the court which stated "Upon judicial review your court date of 8/12/09 has been cancelled." Unless you're gonna also suggest that the cop is also making "judicial decisions" then this decision came from the court NOT from the officer.
  • 07-20-2009, 08:10 PM
    EWYLTJ
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    Jim, I find it extremely interesting that you are ~almost~ always preaching that the courts and law enforcement should stick to the laws the way they are written... ~almost~ always complaining about incompetent cops and crooked judges... ~almost~ always acting as a big proponent for justice and equality under the law... And yet when the rules are bent in your favor, or in your friend's favor, then that makes it all good and dandy.

    A cop, and once the citation is filed in court, is merely a "witness". If you can explain & enlighten me as to what part of the legal justice system in this country gives a "witness" the ability to decide whether a case is worthy of prosecution or not, then I would greatly appreciate it. On second thought, I'll spare you the trouble... No need to explain anything!

    Also, let me note that the OP, and his most recent post quoted a letter from the court which stated "Upon judicial review your court date of 8/12/09 has been cancelled." Unless you're gonna also suggest that the cop is also making "judicial decisions" then this decision came from the court NOT from the officer.


    First of all, I made no comment as to my pleasure or displeasure. I merely commented that I knew it was possible. Second, the cop IS a witness... at trial! However, outside of that, he is still the official who is bringing a charge to the court. He can certainly recant if he likes. Furthermore, in both incidents I described, the cop merely made a recommendation that the charges be withdrawn. The judge made the final decision.

    You have a real bug up your butt. Maybe you should try yoga and caffeine free sodas for a while. Geeze...
  • 07-21-2009, 01:31 AM
    That Guy
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    First of all, I made no comment as to my pleasure or displeasure.

    Neither did I. I can't see neither pleasure nor displeasure anywhere in my post.

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    Furthermore, in both incidents I described, the cop merely made a recommendation that the charges be withdrawn. The judge made the final decision.

    That is different that what you siad in your previous post... Here:
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    You are wrong... a cop CAN drop a case.

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    You have a real bug up your butt. Maybe you should try yoga and caffeine free sodas for a while. Geeze...

    Pretty typical of you Jim; as soon as you run out of arguments, you resort to personal insults!!! :rolleyes: Pretty childish, I would say!
  • 07-21-2009, 03:57 PM
    EWYLTJ
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    Neither did I. I can't see neither pleasure nor displeasure anywhere in my post.


    That is different that what you siad in your previous post... Here:

    Wow... if you are that desperate to win a war on semantics, I concede... I have experience with a cop RECOMMENDING a case to be dropped. Does that make you happy??? But, I have never seen any statute, rule of court, etc. that says a cop can't drop a ticket.

    You are quite a bizarre case. On some posts, you seem to be very mature, insightful and helpful. On others, it almost seems like you are saying "nana nana boo boo". Take a look at your last few posts.... what the hell is your point??? reall... what is your point??

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    Pretty typical of you Jim; as soon as you run out of arguments, you resort to personal insults!!! :rolleyes: Pretty childish, I would say!
    I don't think I have resorted to personal insults... I merely pointed out the obvious. Anger management really should be in your future.
  • 07-21-2009, 05:45 PM
    That Guy
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    I have experience with a cop RECOMMENDING a case to be dropped. Does that make you happy???

    Much better, thank you Jim!

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    But, I have never seen any statute, rule of court, etc. that says a cop can't drop a ticket.

    My question was about a statute, law, rule of court that says that “he/she” CAN. I guess you can't cite any.

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    You are quite a bizarre case. On some posts, you seem to be very mature, insightful and helpful. On others, it almost seems like you are saying "nana nana boo boo".

    At least I offer a differing opinion based on the circumstances and the information that is offered in the original post... Whereas you, can only provide the same ridiculous rant about incompetent cops & crooked judges, each and every time and in each and every post.

    As for the “nana nana boo boo” comment, that is only indicative of how mature you are. If you fail to understand the meaning behind my posts, then skip over them... They're probably beyond your capabilities.

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    Anger management really should be in your future.

    If that isn't the Pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is... Anger Management hasn't helped you one bit with ANY and ALL of your issues... So thanks but no thanks.

    I'm done in this thread...
  • 07-21-2009, 07:27 PM
    EWYLTJ
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    Much better, thank you Jim!

    I hope you feel better.

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    My question was about a statute, law, rule of court that says that “he/she” CAN. I guess you can't cite any.
    I cited you two incidents that showed that a cop certainly has the influence to make a ticket go away. If you are so wrapped around semantics to see that the approving authority is irrelevant, then you have lost touch with reality. By the way... you can't show me anything that says a cop CAN'T. So, my demonstration of real practices tips the scale.


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    At least I offer a differing opinion based on the circumstances and the information that is offered in the original post... Whereas you, can only provide the same ridiculous rant about incompetent cops & crooked judges, each and every time and in each and every post.
    Well, I think I have posted good evidence concerning incompetent cops and judges as well. That, by definition, removes me from the realm of "ranting". Furthermore, your responses are based on "something you heard" or "what you believe". That's the only place you came up with the idea of cops making tickets go away.


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    As for the “nana nana boo boo” comment, that is only indicative of how mature you are. If you fail to understand the meaning behind my posts, then skip over them... They're probably beyond your capabilities.
    If you are suggesting that your childish squalling is beyond my capability to endure, I'll agree.

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    If that isn't the Pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.
    I agree... you don't know what is.

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    I'm done in this thread...
    I really hope you mean that.
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