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  • 02-10-2006, 09:40 PM
    shingbei
    depending on which city you're in, just google up "____ city prosecutor" and call their office. The charges might not be filed yet into the system since it could go through the detective system, but go ahead and call them periodically to check up.

    Best advice I can give you is stop worrying! You need to put this behind you and move on with your life! I know it's hard now but give it a couple of days and you'll feel a lot better.

    Hope I helped you.
    I'm addicted to checking this forum.. lol
  • 02-10-2006, 09:44 PM
    dumdum
    If I look up a proscuter..what should I say? I feel like you're holding my hand through this process.. lol..and yea I'm addicted to checking this forum too. I'm one dumb 17 yr old girl. I swear...I really never thought I'd ever get into legal trouble..I cant stop worrying...I'm going INSANEEEE!!!! =(
  • 02-10-2006, 09:45 PM
    shingbei
    ok just call in and say something like "I might have had charges filed against me but I've recently moved so I'd like to change my address." That should work.
  • 02-10-2006, 09:58 PM
    ConcernedMom
    Quote:

    Quoting shingbei
    I am under the impression that records of the charge is only available to the police backgoundchecks and not for employment purposes?

    You're probably right but I'm just making sure.

    I am not saying I am right Sweetheart but they told us that the actual charge will be shown if a background check is done.

    Also, Yes it also will be on the police background too (brother in law is a policeman).

    However...some employers are satisfied to know that there is *no conviction* (small independent business etc.) and may hire someone with a *charge only,no conviction*

    If an application asks if you have had an conviction, you can say no.
    (if you haven't been because of diversion or whatever options available through your state)

    If it asks if you have been arrested, you would have to say yes, then state whatever the outcome is. It is best to just be honest to avoid conflict , expense to employer to be for bg checks etc..


    Chances of getting into retail may be tough as they will see the petty theft.

    The majority of businesses will go to the extent of a fullblown check especially if it is government agencies, banking facilities police, fire, nurse, doctor etc.

    If you are wanting to validate the info, contact your court clerk, they will assist you. :)

    Trust me, I know what you young ones are going through.
    You are right, everyone makes mistakes. Hopefully, a lesson has been learned.

    Its been a tough few months for us as well.

    Hang it there!
  • 02-10-2006, 10:04 PM
    shingbei
    but from the looks of it, she was detained by store employees and the police were not actually involved? Would that still be considered an arrest for job applications?
  • 02-10-2006, 10:08 PM
    ConcernedMom
    Dumdum, stop worrying.

    Trust me, this will all work out.

    Call the courthouse, talk to the clerk. You can explain to her/him what happened, give dates etc. to see if it is filed.

    If they have no record they will tell you.

    Once the prosecutor is done with it, it is then forwarded to them.
    That is when the Court Clerk will assign your case to the Court Docket. It takes months sometimes because of activity in the System.

    I am not certain they will forward the mail, it was our understanding it is to be received to the address submitted to the arresting (charging) Officer. They send the Court Order to that address because that is the *legal residence of the criminal.

    That sounds so harsh but we were told many claim they *didn't get the Order* etc....if it is mailed elsewhere.

    This only creates more problems, like a bench warrant for failure to appear.

    I am so sorry dear one that you are afraid of being evicted from your home if this is found out. Family is family...as I stated before, they will be disappointed. I have to admit I was mad when my child told me of the incident,but disappointment was really the factor.
  • 02-10-2006, 10:11 PM
    ConcernedMom
    Quote:

    Quoting shingbei
    but from the looks of it, she was detained by store employees and the police were not actually involved? Would that still be considered an arrest for job applications?

    Sweetie, here is her original post...:

    I skipped school yesterday, and i was caught shoplifting at Kohl's. I've been going through alot, and it seemed like it would help me..de-stress. It was a stupid choice, and I do take full responisbility. They brought me into an"employees only" room, where all the servalance cameras were being watched. They asked me some questions, and took my picture, and a copy of my lisence. The cop read me my rights, and told me that I'll get something in the mail from the courthouse, telling me when I have to appear in court. And I asked "well, who do I have to bring with me" and hes like..."since you're 17, you are looked upon as an adult, and can go by yourself if you want too." I also got told that I'll be banned from any Kohl's In the Country for the rest of my life. I have some questions though...

    1)Since they have ALL of my information, such as my telephone number and my address, should I expect a phone call or a house call by the police?

    2)About how long does it take to recieve the letter from the courthouse?

    3)My dad doesnt know, and I'm hoping I can hide this from my family. I'm not one to do stupid s---* like this, but for some reason i did it..and do you think there is anyway that he wont find out?

    4)They said since the amount I was shoplifting was around $140, I could end up paying anywhere from $140-10x the amount I tried stealing....how much do you think I'll end up paying? And, what other punshiments do you think I'll recieve?

    If you have the answers to any of my questions and concerns PLEASE help me. I'll be more than grateful. Please...=(...I cant get this weird gut feeling to go away, I'm so paranoid, and I wish I could go back. This only makes things worse, and yes I know it was my decision. But if my dad or family finds out, my life is gone. Literally. I'll be on the streets..please help me.

    -DumDum.


    ~~~~~~~

    Adding this: We were told even if you are NOT taken to the jail, fingerprinted etc., it is still considered an arrest if you received a criminal citation.
  • 02-10-2006, 10:17 PM
    shingbei
    I agree that it is possible that forwarding the mail could potentially be a problem, but it is possible if that's something you absolutely need.

    It's usually done to accomodate people moving or swiching between addresses. I know since I was told by the LP officers and my lawyer to call the prosecutor's office to change the address; since being a college student, I do not have a full-time residence.

    Also, if you're really worried, you can always rent out a temporary PO box for a few month just to have the mail forwarded to it.


    To Concernedmom:

    I have a question about bench warrants. If there is one filled against you say in Washington..would you be arrested if you were pulled over in another state?

    Also, this is for my situation. I never received a criminal citation or any contact with the police, the LP officers just filed the charge with the court. So would that be considered an arrest as well?
  • 02-10-2006, 10:28 PM
    ConcernedMom
    It may be permissible to have your mail forwarded if it is done through legal representation. :)

    As for the bench warrant..

    If you are pulled over for a traffic violation etc. in another State, yes...the information will be given to the Police Officer. However, I do not know what the outcome would be then. I know that some states *hold* you, some extradite etc. This is something you would have to research for the State in which you may be residing in.

    On the matter about no police involvement....We were advised that even if the Law Enforcement weren't called and it is given to the prosecuter...then YES this is an arrest too, as you are being charged.

    I always questioned arrest vs. charges myself and was informed that regardless ...charge=arrest.

    If I am incorrect, I hope someone posts. I am still a little befuddled by that myself.
  • 02-10-2006, 10:59 PM
    moviejim
    Very interesting topic.

    1. You could be arrested, but not charged.

    2. If a cop pulls you over for speeding and then gives you a ticket. Is that an arrest? I think most people would say NO. But he does charge you for speeding. So, in my opinion, charge doesn't mean arrest.

    I, too, would want to know how the law defines arrest.

    moviejim
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