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  • 11-20-2008, 03:10 PM
    Cher07
    Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
    My question involves injury or loss that occurred in the state of: CA

    A couple weeks ago, when I was biking to the store, I saw this one guy with a bike exactly like my boyfriend’s that got stole some time ago. So I rode ahead and stopped in front of him. He end up stop and when I tried to talk with him, he just acted dumb and never say a word. After a while, I gave up and head home to tell my boyfriend about this. Since this guy look easily intimidated and my boyfriend hate polices. We decided to try talk to him in civil manner first. For a couple days I and my boyfriend would hang out at the park watching for him.
    When we finally saw him again, I rode up to him and stopped him again. He tried same thing again, but my boyfriend wouldn’t have any of it so he got in this guy’s face and started to yell at him, hoping to scare him into talk. This guy finally tried to pull phone out and since we doesn’t want to deal with polices, my boyfriend push the phone away and grasp him by shirt. This guy tried to use phone again so my boyfriend shoved him down along with the bike.
    Realizing he was being too rough, my boyfriend apologized and tried to go to help him up, but the guy stood up and start to attack my boyfriend.
    It ends up with my boyfriend having fractured eye orbit, broken nose, and a fractured femur that require surgery and cause him to lose his job. My arm was broke and two of my teeth got knocked out when I tried to stop the fight.
    When the police came, it turned out this guy is deaf and the bike was his. He says he was trying to use phone to communication with us via text. To our disgust, he was let go.

    Today at the court, I and my boyfriend was there to try press a charge on this guy who assaulted my boyfriend. This guy came in wearing a jeans and a buttoned shirt with couple top buttons unbuttoned. He never seems a one bit worried or scared. He communicated through a translator at the court. At first it seems to be going good because the guy was getting grilled by the judge about being one of the top American kick boxer fighter in Japan and Korea.
    Once the witness started to talk, almost all says my boyfriend started the fight. But my boyfriend never dealed the first blow and it was just all a horrible mistake and I and my boyfriend both receive some serious injury while he walk away without a bruise.
    It ended up with him not being guilt in self defend.
    After that, when I and my boyfriend was about to leave the court, we saw him drove away in a car that my boyfriend say cost over a hundred grand of dollars.

    When my boyfriend still have job, he made only $12 an hour and I make only 9 an hour. Now my boyfriend has a huge medicine bills to pay and still have no transport of any kind and won’t be able to walk without crutch for some time. While this guy has money and doesn’t even offer any sympathy or help with the bills.

    Why would they let this guy get away with everything? He’s a trained fighter and he did all this damages to us and walk away from it like as if it was nothing. Is it because he has all those moneys? Is it because he’s deaf? Or what?
  • 11-20-2008, 04:52 PM
    kist
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
    I'm going to leave this choice chunk of bait for one of the attack dogs. Yikes.
  • 11-20-2008, 05:17 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
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    Quoting Cher07
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    A couple weeks ago, when I was biking to the store, I saw this one guy with a bike exactly like my boyfriend’s that got stole some time ago. So I rode ahead and stopped in front of him. He end up stop and when I tried to talk with him, he just acted dumb and never say a word.

    You mean, the hearing impaired guy acted like he couldn't hear you? To think....

    Acted dumb.... Not the most considerate choice of words under the circumstances, but are you aware of the etymology? The historic term "dumb", as in "deaf and dumb", later evolving into "deaf and mute", refers to the fact that some hearing impaired people are unable to talk.
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    Quoting Cher07
    Since this guy look easily intimidated and my boyfriend hate polices. We decided to try talk to him in civil manner first.

    So you hate the police, and didn't do the responsible thing and call them. Instead you and your boyfriend decided that, since the guy looked "easily intimidated", to intimidate him.
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    Quoting Cher07
    When we finally saw him again, I rode up to him and stopped him again. He tried same thing again,

    You mean, the hearing impaired guy again acted like he couldn't hear you? I'm shocked.
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    Quoting Cher07
    but my boyfriend wouldn’t have any of it so he got in this guy’s face and started to yell at him, hoping to scare him into talk.

    Because he looked easily intimidated.
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    Quoting Cher07
    This guy finally tried to pull phone out and since we doesn’t want to deal with polices, my boyfriend push the phone away and grasp him by shirt.

    So rather than letting this guy call the police, your boyfriend committed a criminal assault, among other possible offenses, because you don't want to involve the police in, say, investigating alleged crimes and confronting alleged offenders (who you prefer to intimidate).
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    Quoting Cher07
    This guy tried to use phone again so my boyfriend shoved him down along with the bike.

    Because when you've already committed a crime, why not "double down".
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    Quoting Cher07
    Realizing he was being too rough, my boyfriend apologized and tried to go to help him up, but the guy stood up and start to attack my boyfriend.

    This would be what they call "self-defense". I realize that you think the hearing impaired guy should have realized that, after twice battering him and intentionally trying to prevent him from calling the police, your boyfriend was apologizing, but funny a funny thing about hearing impairments is that they prevent people from hearing everything.
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    Quoting Cher07
    It ends up with my boyfriend having fractured eye orbit, broken nose, and a fractured femur that require surgery and cause him to lose his job. My arm was broke and two of my teeth got knocked out when I tried to stop the fight.

    Or, more like, you attacked the guy screaming something like, "Stop hitting my boyfriend". Which he probably couldn't hear, because he's hearing impaired.
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    Quoting Cher07
    When the police came, it turned out this guy is deaf and the bike was his.

    You mean, wow, the police were able to quickly determine that you were dead wrong, and that your hunting this guy down, your attempts at intimidation, and your boyfriend's two unprovoked batteries were completely unjustified? The police can do that? I can see why you hate them so much.
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    Quoting Cher07
    He says he was trying to use phone to communication with us via text. To our disgust, he was let go.

    And likely to his disgust, you were let go.
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    Quoting Cher07
    Once the witness started to talk, almost all says my boyfriend started the fight.

    That's hardly a surprise. You said that your boyfriend started the fight. Twice.
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    Quoting Cher07
    But my boyfriend never dealed the first blow...

    The first blow: "my boyfriend push the phone away and grasp him by shirt"

    The second blow: "my boyfriend shoved him down along with the bike."
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    Quoting Cher07
    ...and it was just all a horrible mistake...

    You mean, thinking that you can confront somebody in the street, intimidate them, and batter them when they don't give you their bicycle? Yes, that was a mistake. Not quite as big as the mistake of thinking that a world-class kick boxer would be "easily intimidated", but still pretty darn big.
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    Quoting Cher07
    It ended up with him not being guilt in self defend.

    When you accost somebody in the street and engage in two acts of battery, and forcibly prevent him from using his phone (whether to call the police or to communicate with you), that's not a particularly surprising outcome.
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    Quoting Cher07
    After that, when I and my boyfriend was about to leave the court, we saw him drove away in a car that my boyfriend say cost over a hundred grand of dollars.

    The nerve. He's hearing impaired, and yet he still has money?
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    Quoting Cher07
    When my boyfriend still have job, he made only $12 an hour and I make only 9 an hour. Now my boyfriend has a huge medicine bills to pay and still have no transport of any kind and won’t be able to walk without crutch for some time. While this guy has money and doesn’t even offer any sympathy or help with the bills.

    You mean the guy you needlessly confronted, twice battered, and demanded turn his bicycle over to you, because you hate the police? Then tried to prosecute for defending himself? He didn't feel sorry for you?
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    Quoting Cher07
    Why would they let this guy get away with everything?

    Well, here's a wild guess: Because you and your boyfriend confronted with the intention of intimidating him and battered him in an attempt to force him to give you his bicycle, while nothing would have happened had your boyfriend not battered him or if you had the good sense to call the police and learn, non-violently, that the bicycle was his.
  • 11-20-2008, 06:35 PM
    gigirle
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
    I can't trump Mr Knowitall (btw, I was roflmao with the "double down" comment) but I can't leave it alone either.

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    Why would they let this guy get away with everything?
    How you see thru those rose colored glasses is beyond me. YOU hunted this man down and got EXACTLY what you asked for. In this country, when you think someone stole from you, you call the polices. That's what they are there for, but you hate the polices (wonder why that is, she says with total scarsm) so you took matters into your own hands and got more than you asked for. Assult, battery, threats, stalking...what did you leave out? Oh yeah...theft, you didn't steal the bike that wasn't your bf's!

    You then seem to think he got away with something...did you for ONCE think of how he might have felt? Had he not been a world class fighter and been a normal person, you would have had the cops called on you during your first attack on him. And thats what you did..attack him and accuse him of stealing your bf's bike. It wasnt' even any of your business to begin with. You STALKED this man, waited in the park for a few days and you and your bf set out to INTIMIDATE him and get a bike back that wasn't yours. The part that I don't agree with is it was YOU who started the fight! Your bf started the assult.

    Are you upset that he has a car that costs over a hundred grand or because you have medical bills from a fight that you asked for? He worked and trained very hard for what he has achieved in his life so don't begrudge him for that. School bullies tend not to go far in life and when they grow up, they tend to lose jobs when they don't get their temper under control.

    Amazing, just simply amazing!
  • 11-20-2008, 07:39 PM
    cyjeff
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
    I would finish this up by saying that just because you lost the fight doesn't mean the other guy is guilty.

    I guess it just means he wasn't as easily intimidated as you thought.

    You actually picked on a nationally ranked kickboxer?

    Really?

    Please tell me the butt whooping was on film. Please.

    Oh oh... also tell me that you swaggered up to him... them pushed him down... and then jumped on his back when you realized that your boyfriend was getting can kicked all over the street.

    PLEASE tell me this is on film....
  • 11-20-2008, 08:29 PM
    PJ Weber
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
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    Please tell me the butt whooping was on film. Please.
    That would be wonderful :D :D
  • 11-21-2008, 05:55 PM
    zedex
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
    This is about the funniest thing I have read here yet. Maybe next time they decide to intimidate someone, they'll recall the little intimidable guy that kicked off in their butts.
  • 11-21-2008, 06:21 PM
    M'sta Mikey
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
    Absolutely the top nominee for the "Stupid People Tricks of the Decade" award.

    And let's not forget the top 10 pick for "Destroyed In Seconds" or "COPS"
  • 11-21-2008, 06:26 PM
    gigirle
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
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    Quoting M'sta Mikey
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    Absolutely the top nominee for the "Stupid People Tricks of the Decade" award.

    And let's not forget the top 10 pick for "Destroyed In Seconds" or "COPS"

    I agree. Has anyone been able to find any video or news coverage of this?
  • 11-21-2008, 06:46 PM
    M'sta Mikey
    Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything
    There isn't any video. It's hard to videotape yourself when nothing's happenin let along doing it while getting your a$$ kicked, your girlfriend getting in the way while getting her teeth knocked out, and you're trying to continuously pick yourself up off the ground using whatever appendages you have left that are functioning.

    Personally, I'd check with the local hospitals to see if there are any doctors or nurses being treated for split sides, shortness of breath, watery eyes, and/or uncontrollable snickering and wetting of the pants. THAT will tell the tale.
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