First Time Theft

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Quoting ashman165

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As you've been told three times, PLEAD NOT GUILTY THEN TALK TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

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ummm and as i have already stated : "why plead not guilty when i know they will do whatever they can to prove i am."

no need to use caps, suprisingly i can actually read without them..crazy isnt it?

once again, in my original post, this is why i keep asking but it seems that people find it necessary to ignore the actual questions and try to use caps in attempts to make someone look slow and incapable of reading comprehension..

"I know i am guilty, even if i plead not guilty, im sure he has my voice mails i left him crying and saying sorry and asking for help"

why say im NOT GUILY when i AM GUILTY..pretty sure what im trying to figure out is can do i have to say i am or not guilty before meeting with a pd..what answer do i give when the judge asks me, thats what im looking for,

yeah i got it..talk to a pd..got that.

Then you know what? You arguing with the experts here is NOT going the change the situation.

I'm sorry to say this but stop the crap and plead quilty, take what the judge gives you and move on from there. You're as guilty as a bullet is painful. Plead and move on. (sorry)

"NO SOUP FOR YOU...NEXT"

Arguing with the experts? The last thing i am trying to do is argue, im trying to find out an answer to my question, by simply restating the original question i asked,and conintue asking is by no means 'arguing', im only trying to find answers. Yes, first i am told to plead guilty, and I did confess,so why did you say 'stop the crap? Um, crap? If you read my posts youwill see that i continuously say how sorry, wrong, stupid, and guilty i am. Is there crap in my confession? Or is it 'crap' that i am saying hey im guilty, why/how should i plead not guilty, since thats the advice from the EXPERTS.

im not here to argue, im here to get help. you can give me all the crap you want and make me feel even lower than i already do, if it helps you sleep better at night.

for those that actually have helpful suggestions, i appreciate it more than anything right now, thank you very much :)

You asked how to get a Public defender you were told how to do so, after doing that you can discuss the rest of it with him/her.

If you don't like the answers you are getting here can't you ask someone where you work since you said you work for a law firm?

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Quoting FlyinHawk®

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You asked how to get a Public defender you were told how to do so, after doing that you can discuss the rest of it with him/her.

If you don't like the answers you are getting here can't you ask someone where you work since you said you work for a law firm?

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Well, I hate to sound rude, but this doesn't sound so much like advice s/he's after so much as a place to vent and have catharsis.

I think four times now s/he was told in order to get a PD, s/he must plead not guilty.

OP, judges aren't in the habit of assigning lawyers on the state's nickel to people who've pleaded guilty.

Surprisingly, you can read. More surprisingly, you managed to miss the little details about pleading not guilty and then talking to your PD despite it having been said to you no fewer than 4 times.

As far as you working for a law firm goes, you'd think that by now you'd have caught on that trials don't come with predetermined results. If they did, trials would be wholly unncessary. This is why you plead not guilty and then talk to your state appointed lawyer to review your options.

Pleading guilty removes that benefit of having an advocate to at least get you a better deal.

My question involves criminal law for the state of: Washington

Alright, for those that read my post, and well, for those that havent ya'll can read it after/before this post. THis mainly goes out to the readers, i have no questions, its more so for the people, like myself, that read countless cases on this forum looking for something to give them hope, answers and comfort, rather than people scaring or mocking them, as i have experienced.

I went to my arrignmt today and it went like this: we formed a line to be able to speak to the prosecutor and/or public defender. When i was up, the lady aske my name, i told her, and she said she was with the prosecuting office. She stated that if i plead guilty, i could have up to a yr in jail, basically all my rights, then she said what we can do is give you a deal of 2 yr probation. I said is there a 'no contest' plea or something like a diversion program here that perhaps i can do, rather than pleading no guilty and having a big ol trial, or pleading guilty and getting a higher sentence. She then directed me to a public defender. I went to him, and he said since it was my FIRST OFFENSE EVER and i have a PERFECT RECORD he can talk to the store and see if they can do a 'civl compromise' which is basically me agreeing to pay the store that did the charges, and then coming to court and the defender presenting that; there would be no cimrinal record nothing, you just pay the fines and thats it - i was expecting probation of 2 yrs, lots of community service, classes abt theft, and even some ppl who scared me wtih 'jail time'. So to those first time convicted people, there's hope, dont listen to all you read. And yeah, perhaps it doesnt always go like this, and you know i dont even know the answer yet, the pd has to get back to me on if they agree with the civil compromise, which he stated they typcially do because they dont like to pay for the trial or sending their lp staff to trial, it costs them more. SO if i get lucky ill get that, if not it'd be the whole 2 yr probation thing, and then record clear, andim fine with that, its not likeim planning on getting in trouble, and if i can keep clean for 22 years, im hoping another 2 wont be too bad.

SO if you have that scary, disgusting, unable to eat, feeling in your stomach, and its ur FIRST time conviction, breathe, it's not going to be THAT BAD.

I will contiue wtih the update in a few wks is my trial, we'll see how that goes, maybe it will be great and i can give ppl more details and a great ending that will give us hope, throughtout these weeks of reading these forums, i was looking for posts like this, where someone actually had something positive to say.
AFTer going through so much crap, you feel bad as it is, people telling you you're going to go to jail over a 30$ item and its ur first time and ur sincerely remorseful, thats just nto alwyas the case, but i gues its necessary since they say that is the MAXIUMUM penality.

goodluck to everyone, including myself.

And another lesson here; if you do something stupid, are caught and charged, get an attorney!

If you cannot afford one, plead Not Guilty at arraignment and request that one be appointed you.

yeah, okay...

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Quoting depressed987

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yeah, okay...

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I can guarantee we'll be hearing from you again. "I got away with it, so can you. I'll do it again and let you know how to get out of it. Take a deep breath and don't worry! It's really not that bad."

Yeah, you'll get out of it...in 1 to 3 years. Make sure mommy and daddy contribute to your account so you can buy toilet paper and the basic necessities so you don't have to barter with Budda and his band of merry men.

Think you're 'depressed987' now... you ain't seen nothing yet smart guy.