My question involves criminal law for the state of: Texas/Tejas
I gotta question. I have a bunch of punks comin' on my property. They got no business here!! I tried calling the cops, but they wont do anything (figures). Would it be illegal to fire a couple warning shots in the air?
Shootin' at Tresspassers
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10-06-2008, 10:36 PMblueeagleShootin' at Tresspassers
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10-07-2008, 05:59 PMOhMyRe: Shootin' at TresspassersQuote:
Quoting blueeagle
NNNOOOOOO you cant do that here in Texas. You can NOT fire a firearm in the air, at kids (or anyone else) who are not causing danger to your life. Hunting durring season is allowed, however, hunting children is NOT what they meant.
They can also say you shot AT THEM, children can have imaginations. Be smart, unload your gun, put it in your gun safe and go outside and give the kids a good ol texas hollarin at LOL.
Really, I do not want to see you arrested and have to stand trial for attempted murder.
Go find that prostitue instead that you spoke about in Banter and see if you are able to come up with that STIFF one that you have been lacking the last 5 years :eek: -
10-07-2008, 06:10 PMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersFirst of all, they aint kids. It's the drug dealer across the street and his friends. The youngest is like 19. You ain't knowin' the type of thugs I live by.Quote:
Quoting OhMy
So you're sayin' I can't shoot MY gun on MY PROPERTY? What kind of liberal crap is this??? -
10-07-2008, 06:12 PMM'sta MikeyRe: Shootin' at TresspassersQuote:
Quoting OhMy
Good Lord OM! Now ya've done it... ya've done pulled his feathers :eek: -
10-07-2008, 06:17 PMOhMyRe: Shootin' at TresspassersCORRECT you can NOT shoot your gun within city limits. You need a hunting permit. Hunting drug dealers IS NOT covered under any city permit that I have ever seen.Quote:
Quoting blueeagle
Hey, I live next door to a pharmacist LOL, ok, shutting up now:rolleyes:
See? where do you draw the line?:eek: He is a drug dealer too. (legal) but still -
10-07-2008, 06:19 PMOhMyRe: Shootin' at TresspassersQuote:
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Well it is good to know that something on him works LOL and he is like what? 26? :p -
10-07-2008, 06:20 PMgigirleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersYour really pushin it. If there is high level of drug trafficing why arent the police doing anything? How about a fence?Quote:
Quoting blueeagle
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10-07-2008, 06:23 PMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersWhats our great country coming to...Quote:
Quoting OhMy
Got one!!Quote:
You need a hunting permit.
I thought a rodent and snake huntin' license gave me athority to hunt drug dealers? Oh wait, thats lawyers. HEHEHEHE!! :pQuote:
Hunting drug dealers IS NOT covered under any city permit that I have ever seen.
Pretty much the same thing. He just has a license. HA!Quote:
See? where do you draw the line?:eek: He is a drug dealer too.
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10-07-2008, 06:24 PMM'sta MikeyRe: Shootin' at Tresspassers
LEO: "What happened here tonight?"
BE: "I don't know. I was cleaning my gun and it accidently went off"
LEO "SIX OR SEVEN TIMES?"
BE: "I guess..."
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10-07-2008, 06:25 PMOhMyRe: Shootin' at Tresspassers
Do you know what they are selling?
Cocaine? crack? pot?
OR
Are they selling RX medications? I would not mind making a trip 80 miles away if they are dealing in RX meds. Its my job afterall:D -
10-07-2008, 06:26 PMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersThe police? HAHAHA!!! FUNNY!!! Our cops are to lazy to fight crime. A fence? Maybe. But I probably can't put one of those up either!! I'm sure there's some law against it... :rolleyes:Quote:
Quoting gigirle
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10-07-2008, 06:27 PMgigirleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersOkay then videotape them take it to the police and if they don't do something about it go to the prosecutors office.Quote:
Quoting blueeagle
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10-07-2008, 06:27 PMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersNo clue. I just see cars in and out of there at all hours of the night. Rarely do they spend more than 5 minutes at the residence. Somethin' ain't right.Quote:
Quoting OhMy
Nope thats the soccer mom who live on the next street over...Quote:
Are they selling RX medications? I would not mind making a trip 80 miles away if they are dealing in RX meds. Its my job afterall:D
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10-07-2008, 06:30 PMOhMyRe: Shootin' at TresspassersUh, dont you think it is best to move to a better part of Texas? I mean I dont see anything like that going on where I live.Quote:
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Then again I am so busy with work I may have a blind eye LOL:( -
10-07-2008, 06:39 PMOhMyRe: Shootin' at TresspassersQuote:
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I work with lawyers every day. Many are good people, I do hear that they are lousy in bed though :eek: -
10-07-2008, 09:14 PMkistRe: Shootin' at Tresspassers
Just get one of these
http://www.noloitering.ca/n1.html
But be aware teens, like rodents, can end up out-smarting you.
http://www.parentdish.com/2006/05/30...ard-by-adults/ -
10-09-2008, 07:28 PMsouperdaveRe: Shootin' at Tresspassers
Ya could sit out on your porch with one of them bigass binoculars and look right at 'em.....then, when they start shootin' first you're in instant self-defense mode.....hopefully that holdin' the gun sideways stuff is not condusive to accuracy!:eek:
If it is, then leave your next of kin your site password so we can mourn ya for a minute or two.:p
BUT SERIOUSLY! Keep pestering the local PD....get some neighbors involved....they'll get tired of hearing form ya and EVENTUALLY do something.....or copy the plates from the visiting vehicles and call them all in to your local crime hotline..... -
10-09-2008, 08:27 PMashman165Re: Shootin' at Tresspassers
I've heard firing guns to scare drug dealers is a really, really bright thing to do.
A better part of Texas? <insert joke here> :eek:
Make your yard (property) really inconvenient to walk through. Like, I don't know, a sprinkler system with really curious timing sounds nice. Particularly if sprays crotch level.
I've heard, allegedly, that wet pot is hard to smoke. But I think this is how they started making crack in the first place. It could be just a rumor. ;) -
10-09-2008, 08:58 PMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersSpoken like a true Texan!!Quote:
Quoting souperdave
My family ain't knowin' about these here computers.Quote:
If it is, then leave your next of kin your site password so we can mourn ya for a minute or two.:p
I kind of pissed the local PD off a couple weeks ago when I got ticketed for PI. The officer didn't like being called a corrupt, lazy, donut hog...Quote:
BUT SERIOUSLY! Keep pestering the local PD....get some neighbors involved....they'll get tired of hearing form ya and EVENTUALLY do something.....or copy the plates from the visiting vehicles and call them all in to your local crime hotline.....
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10-09-2008, 09:10 PMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersListen, I don't give a damn if they're drug dealers or not. I'm a freakin' libertarian. People wanna use drugs, hey, I don't give a shit. The war on drugs is the most miserable failure this country has ever know.Quote:
Quoting ashman165
I just don't like people comin' on my property. I don't care who they are. Hell, it could be the local preacher man, and I would be just as "trigger happy". But he knows better than to come around these here parts. I gave him a firm speech about him being a con-artist and how I wouldn't be caught dead within 100 yards of his "church". But, regardless, he's not the one I'm dealin' with here.
Your face. <Insert joke here> HAHAHA!! Just kidding.Quote:
A better part of Texas? <insert joke here> :eek:
What about land mines? LMAO!! Or a big ass dog...Quote:
Make your yard (property) really inconvenient to walk through. Like, I don't know, a sprinkler system with really curious timing sounds nice. Particularly if sprays crotch level.
Allegedly my ass. I tried pot back in the day. It can be difficult to keep lit while wet... Crack? Never touched it... Ask my home-boy OhMy!! HAHA!Quote:
I've heard, allegedly, that wet pot is hard to smoke. But I think this is how they started making crack in the first place. It could be just a rumor. ;)
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10-09-2008, 10:30 PMashman165Re: Shootin' at TresspassersYou take that back! Leave my smiley alone. Now he's a sad face. :(Quote:
Quoting blueeagle
Or, big ass dog landmines. But it's Texas . . . almost everything there is bigger - cow landmines. Everything there is bigger I've noticed, well, at the waistline anyway. *hides*
Li, lib, liber . . . what's that word you used? I thought the only 2 political parties in Texas are conservative republican and extremely far right whack job republican? You stop with that big old fashioned L - word!
You could lace your entire yard with a monster supply of like itching powder. Or spoil some eggs and put them out there to be stepped on. Yeah, that could be fun.
Or just have one of your friends lie down in the yard and draw his chalk outline and throw up some tattered remains of yellow police looking tape. (I use a modified version of that. I also have various religious leaflets lying around it - staves off the door-to-door proselytize you to our fly by night direct to heaven type folks.)
A stray ankle high electric type fence could be good fun. Presumably it could be for opossum/racoon/stray cat control. ;)
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10-09-2008, 10:56 PMbigcountrysgRe: Shootin' at Tresspassers
Shooting at a trespasser that posses no threat to you is illegal. It can also be considered attempted murder, reckless discharge of firearm, and several other felony charges. You would cure no problems with this action.
Maybe you should talk to the local police, and neighbors and set up a block watch. -
10-09-2008, 11:00 PMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at Tresspassers
I'm a libertarian, not a liberal. At least not anymore.
Libertarians tend to take pro-liberty positions on both economic and personal issues. Liberals seek to finance a socialistic nanny-state by stripping our economic-liberties using socialistic incentives such as income tax, welfare, social security, and various our "entitlement" programs. Typial "Conservatives" are a bunch of right-wing religious fanatics hell bent on creating a glourios police by limiting our personal freedoms, eradicating the constitution, and spending tax dollars fighting wars which don't concern us. Both sides act based on the principal that the state can do no wrong... -
10-09-2008, 11:04 PMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersHow can this be? This is MY property we're talking about. Maybe your law only applies if you actually shoot the person. I have no intention of doing this. I simply wish to scare them off my land.Quote:
Quoting bigcountrysg
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10-10-2008, 07:57 AMashman165Re: Shootin' at TresspassersWell, it is Texas. Maybe there's some "annoying drug dealers across the street" exception in your neck of the woods. ^_^Quote:
Quoting blueeagle
It's not my law; it's our law. It applies to you no less than to me despite how much you dislike it.
While I appreciate you taking my joke and turning into a political lecture, but I'd like to state the obvious: the United States is a nation. Nations have governments. Our is theoretically the government of majority opinion.
If your view is the right one, then it should be of no moment to persuade people how wayward they are. (Ok, that's tongue-in-cheek) -
10-10-2008, 06:43 PMOhMyRe: Shootin' at Tresspassers
OK now on a serious note.
If you really do have people dealing drugs in your area and the police are not doing anything about it after they are notified, then really I would be concerned.
Like I said before BE, I only work 80 miles from you. I would not mind giving your police dept a call and giving them a lecture. I will even tell them what to do (they would just LOVE that) NOT. I find it SHOCKING that this would not be investigaged. (ok you asked for the SHOCKING part):eek:
My office investigates all drug crimes that are reported to us. I would hope the local police would do the same. -
10-10-2008, 06:54 PMashman165Re: Shootin' at TresspassersWell, I'd like to think the DEA would do so considering it's the DRUG Enforcement Agency . . . ;)Quote:
Quoting OhMy
If your local (if you're in a city) police won't do anything about, call the county, then the state, then e-mail ohmy. ;) -
10-11-2008, 12:16 AMblueeagleRe: Shootin' at TresspassersI called the Fort Worth PD. They claim to be to busy to handle the situation... Figures...Quote:
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