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  • 08-25-2008, 07:53 AM
    72andsunny
    Can a Name Change Be Disputed or Overturned Later?
    Hi,

    once a court approves petition for a name change, is that order absolutely final, and can NOT be disputed or overturned at a later date? (for example, say by an overzealous ex-spouse, or bogus debt collectors, or whomever and for whatever reason real or phony)?

    I am about to change the name with no ulterior motive for doing so, but I would hate to do it only to find out that someone else would be able to challenge it at any point in future?

    Thx.
  • 08-26-2008, 08:35 PM
    Xena
    Re: Can a Name Change Be Disputed or Overturned Later?
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    I am about to change the name with no ulterior motive for doing so, but I would hate to do it only to find out that someone else would be able to challenge it at any point in future?

    No ulterior motive??

    http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57125

    Changing you name will NOT help your situation at all. You really should get a consult with an attorney. In your other thread you stated that you live in FL- you can get a low cost consult by calling the Florida Bar Lawyer Referral Service at 1-800-342-8011.
  • 08-27-2008, 09:41 PM
    72andsunny
    Re: Can a Name Change Be Disputed or Overturned Later?
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    No ulterior motive??

    http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57125

    Changing you name will NOT help your situation at all. You really should get a consult with an attorney. In your other thread you stated that you live in FL- you can get a low cost consult by calling the Florida Bar Lawyer Referral Service at 1-800-342-8011.

    What a shitty reply. If you can't answer without a smirk, you should not answer at all because the type of crappy answer you gave is counterproductive to everything that I can think of.

    I CLEARLY STATED THAT I HAVE NO ULTERIOR MOTIVE, and thus you should answer me on the basis of my statement and not go around and dig for some perceived illogicality.

    The name change is of convenience (since mine is long and complicated) and I've wanted to do it for years. A bogus $1000 claim by some fly-by-night collector will not make me reinvent my identity you shallow smart ass. Moreover, in that thread you digged out for no reason I clearly stated I intend to fight that crappy charge even when I move out of state, so don't you be telling me that the name change won't help my situation since one has nothing to do with another!!

    "Consult attorney" is great, gee thanks for such a deep wisdom nugget.
  • 08-27-2008, 10:17 PM
    Xena
    Re: Can a Name Change Be Disputed or Overturned Later?
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    What a shitty reply. If you can't answer without a smirk, you should not answer at all because the type of crappy answer you gave is counterproductive to everything that I can think of.

    I CLEARLY STATED THAT I HAVE NO ULTERIOR MOTIVE, and thus you should answer me on the basis of my statement and not go around and dig for some perceived illogicality.

    The name change is of convenience (since mine is long and complicated) and I've wanted to do it for years. A bogus $1000 claim by some fly-by-night collector will not make me reinvent my identity you shallow smart ass. Moreover, in that thread you digged out for no reason I clearly stated I intend to fight that crappy charge even when I move out of state, so don't you be telling me that the name change won't help my situation since one has nothing to do with another!!

    "Consult attorney" is great, gee thanks for such a deep wisdom nugget.

    Usually when a person adds a statement such as "no ulterior motive" when there is no reason to do so, that almost always indicates that either the person does have ulterior motives, or is afraid that someone will think they have ulterior motives based on thier situation.

    I gave you the number to call to get a consult, if you don't wish to use it, that is your choice.

    However, reading over my previous response I realize that I did not fully answer your question- Once the court has issued a final judgement for a name change it can only be appealed within 30 days of the order. HOWEVER, the judgement can be contested and possibly vacated at any time for 1 year after the judgement, if it is found that the judgement was gained by fraud.
  • 08-28-2008, 06:00 AM
    queenie2
    Re: Can a Name Change Be Disputed or Overturned Later?
    Xena, you are awfully nice AND helpful, especially since 72andsunny added to his 'perceived illogicality' with his foul and inappropriate reply.

    I appreciate your posts. They add to my knowledge base!
  • 08-28-2008, 08:13 AM
    72andsunny
    Re: Can a Name Change Be Disputed or Overturned Later?
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    Usually when a person adds a statement such as "no ulterior motive" when there is no reason to do so, that almost always indicates that either the person does have ulterior motives, or is afraid that someone will think they have ulterior motives based on thier situation.

    It does not matter. This is not a detective board. If you bother to answer, you are supposed to answer one's questions for what they are, and not to play a cop and speculate on someone's motives. Especially not so by doing it wrong, intentionally mis-interpreting the poster's words in order to suit your so-called answer, which is nothing but a personal attempt to gain credibility of your own "purity" and (faux) "righteousness" on this board, at the expense of the poster. You don't even realize how much you hurt the "other party" by giving such poorly thought out and irresponsible answers.

    Quote:

    Quoting Xena
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    Once the court has issued a final judgement for a name change it can only be appealed within 30 days of the order. HOWEVER, the judgement can be contested and possibly vacated at any time for 1 year after the judgement, if it is found that the judgement was gained by fraud.

    Now, this is the type of answer one is looking for. Concrete, specific and to the point. If only now someone could explain to me what is considered as "fraud". Is there a definition of that, and where can I find it? And I don't need one's subjective definition, I need a concrete definition written in the law or state statutes.
  • 08-28-2008, 10:35 AM
    Xena
    Re: Can a Name Change Be Disputed or Overturned Later?
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    Quoting 72andsunny
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    If only now someone could explain to me what is considered as "fraud". Is there a definition of that, and where can I find it? And I don't need one's subjective definition, I need a concrete definition written in the law or state statutes.

    Because I have been defrauded, I happen to have copies of the definition of fraud from many legal sources, including Black's Law Dictionary.
    I could post them for you, however, since I have respect for myself I do not assist anyone who has a lousy attitude toward me. So, the only advice I will give you is this:

    Look it up yourself- Google is helpful.

    or:

    Go to your local law library to find it in Black's Law Dictionary (it's not available on-line for free)

    or:

    Go to one of the pay sites and pay to have access to the dictionary.

    or:

    Go pay an attorney, use the number I gave you- the 30 minute consult only costs $25.
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