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  • 02-15-2008, 09:04 PM
    chimera
    Statutory Rape And The Responsibility Of The Minor And Parents
    To whoever said a 14 yr old boy cannot consent to sex: Are you kidding? $15 says that the kid wanted to have sex, so yes, that's consent. Doesn't make it legal though, and doesn't make it right.


    The woman has to deal with the consequences. It's her fault she decided to get drunk and have reckless sex with strangers-- this is the result. But the fact that she wants to be a teacher is troubling. She's not the kind of person I would want teaching my kids... and I don't even have kids!
  • 02-15-2008, 09:42 PM
    blueeagle
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
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    To whoever said a 14 yr old boy cannot consent to sex: Are you kidding? $15 says that the kid wanted to have sex, so yes, that's consent. Doesn't make it legal though, and doesn't make it right.


    The woman has to deal with the consequences. It's her fault she decided to get drunk and have reckless sex with strangers-- this is the result. But the fact that she wants to be a teacher is troubling. She's not the kind of person I would want teaching my kids... and I don't even have kids!

    Hey I want in on this bet too!! I bet $1000 that the kid BEGGED her for it. I was 14 once too. I know all to well what was running through his mind. Sad thing is, I was never at any cool parties like this when I was 14. HAHAHA
  • 02-16-2008, 10:37 AM
    gigirle
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
    What I can't understand is the Gigantic double standard....

    This 14 year old victim is GUILTY as well. Had he stayed within the confine of the law, he would likely not have been in the situation. WHY aren't the parents being charged? Or at LEAST the person who was left to supervise him during their HOLIDAY. No one has said anything about HIS illegal activity! They both broke the law and only one is being punished. Everyone is blaming her for him being a victim. What kind of a parent would leave their 14 year home alone while they go on holiday? Not like leaving him out of a holiday isn't gonna cause trauma. Give ME a break. It's nuts. Any parent who goes on vacation and leaves teenage kids home alone...GETS EVERYTHING THEY DESERVE. I'm speaking from experience...I did the SAME thing and left mine at home with "supervision" Christ, I wasn't out of the country when the party started. I learned my lesson and I was wrong. I'm just thankful no one got hurt. I hope they sleep well at night knowing if they weren't so selfish, their child might not have been molested.
  • 02-16-2008, 10:50 AM
    Happy Trails
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
    A 14 year olds illegal activity still doesn't take away from the fact that he was taken advantage of.

    I personally don't believe that a 14 year old is "high fiving" everyone for what has happened to him.

    We also don't know that this situation isn't being looked into by law enforcement or CPS as to whether or not there are others that violated the law and should be charged.
  • 02-16-2008, 12:41 PM
    usedbranflakes
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
    When I was a 14 year old kid, living under the rule of a very strict mother I was doing everything I could to get whatever I could. I went to church, had decent grades, and was a good kid as my family told me. ...but I had a little rebel in me.

    Had this kid not drank illegally, had this party been supervised by parents, had this 24 year ould young woman known this kid was not 18, and had there been someone properly watching the kid; this would not have happened.

    Society as a whole looks down on a 24 year old man statutorily raping a 14 year old girl. I think it is sick and disgusting and would have a gun waiting for him if it were my daughter.

    Many people think a 14 year old boy "bagging" a 24 year old hottie is acceptable because men are generally seen as aggressors.

    Ugly people tend to get longer sentences than pretty people. I know of a judge in Georgia that provides a shorter sentence to misdemeanor committing criminals with hot girlfriends or wives that support them.

    That having been said; what she did is illegal in about 44 states, best I can count. What she did only became illegal in Georgia about 10 years ago (1997 or 1998) and it would have been illegal in WV 15 years ago, when she was a kid herself. What she did was illegal, but I would be hard pressed, as a juror, to want to convict her.

    If the boy was failed then it was because his guardians failed him long before UpsetDad's daughter failed him. ...and this boy failed himself by drinking.

    ...just another reason that MADD needs to re-introduce prohibition so that this would never happen.
  • 02-16-2008, 01:09 PM
    gigirle
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
    [QUOTE=usedbranflakes;175559]When I was a 14 year old kid, living under the rule of a very strict mother I was doing everything I could to get whatever I could. I went to church, had decent grades, and was a good kid as my family told me. ...but I had a little rebel in me.

    Had this kid not drank illegally, had this party been supervised by parents, had this 24 year ould young woman known this kid was not 18, and had there been someone properly watching the kid; this would not have happened.[QUOTE]

    This is exactly my point when I asked where the parents were. They clearly failed him long ago.
  • 02-16-2008, 02:29 PM
    usedbranflakes
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
    Carl -
    MADD got into it because they have changed the message of Drunk Driving to the problem of Drunk Driving and underage drinking. If alcohol was illegal again then we would have speakeasys and other places and a kid would NEVER be able to get alcohol, period. Well, some kids would figure out a way, but it would not be easy. They actually have done a GREAT job in North Carolina. It's easier for me to buy a shotgun there than to buy a Keg of Beer.

    Granted, I have only bout 1 Keg in my life and that was for a friend's 21st birthday party. It was chilled but not tapped until 2400 the night of his birthday. The people there were over 21 as well and no one drove.

    ...but this is not about me.

    As for arrests, I am imagining that the officer took statements and called in detectives to follow-up. From there they likely obtained a warrant for her arrest from a magistrate or judge. ...and it's all history.

    ...and while I am talking about failures. ...Society has failed our youth and (a majority of) our youth have failed society.
  • 02-16-2008, 02:30 PM
    gigirle
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
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    How you can even think of finding humor in the rape of a 14 year old is applalling

    I dont find the humor in it either.

    However, how can you not recognize that but for HIS actions, and the actions of HIS parents, he might very well have not been raped. I'm not blaming him at all, I think that the daughter should be punished for her part and to the fullest extent of the law. I don't believe that he is as innocent as portrayed and I also don't think this was his first experience with alcohol. They both deserve whatever is coming to them.
  • 02-16-2008, 02:36 PM
    panther10758
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
    As discussed earlier that is clearly true and we do no tknow what actins are being taken on the parents, the sister (who had party) or the child himself. Those issues surely need to be dealt with but they pale to the rape which is the subject of this thread. As a parent it hits a nerve when I see anyone finding or searching for humor in the molestation and rape of a minor
  • 02-16-2008, 02:37 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Daughter Charged With Statutory Rape In Tennessee
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    Carl -
    MADD got into it because they have changed the message of Drunk Driving to the problem of Drunk Driving and underage drinking.

    Oh my goodness! How dare they! :rolleyes:

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    If alcohol was illegal again then we would have speakeasys and other places and a kid would NEVER be able to get alcohol, period.
    Well, that won't happen.

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    ...but this is not about me.
    And it's not about MADD, either.

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    As for arrests, I am imagining that the officer took statements and called in detectives to follow-up. From there they likely obtained a warrant for her arrest from a magistrate or judge. ...and it's all history.
    Possibly. Though a warrant is not required when probable cause is developed to justify an arrest.

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    ...and while I am talking about failures. ...Society has failed our youth and (a majority of) our youth have failed society.
    Well, when we have a society that glorifies violence and aberrant behavior, fails to accept blame, has removed shame in the name of feel good concepts, and has decided that values and morality should be removed from the classroom and public discourse, then of course - we get the society that amorality and hedonism brings with it.

    - Carl
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