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Eighteen-Year-Olds Ticketed For Illegal Possession Of Alcohol In Virginia

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  • 01-23-2008, 04:16 PM
    novagirls5
    Eighteen-Year-Olds Ticketed For Illegal Possession Of Alcohol In Virginia
    Two weeks ago me and my girlfriends were pulled over in a development because we got lost, while waiting for someone to direct us to the house we were going to, one of the neighbors called the police for a noise complaint, when we saw the cop drive down the street the car we were in was being "hot boxed" we drove away slowly but the cop pulled us over. When the cop pulled us over I was driving my car, the cop said he smelt weed and alcohol on me so he had the right to search the car. The officers wrote all of us up for underage possession of alcohol, and only one girl got the marijuana ticket, i was given a field sobriety test and voluntarly took a breathalyzer and blew a .05 where the legal limit for under 21 is .08 needless to say the officers let me off the hook and just made my parents come pick us up.
    All 5 of us will face the judge at the same time for the alcohol charge, and then the one with the marijuana will see the judge again alone.

    What I am wondering is:
    Can it be brought into question if I had been drinking?
    Will the charge of marijuana be brought up into the case?
    Is it likely that all in the car will loose their license, or more likely only me since i was the driver?
    Is there anyway to make sure that I do not have my license suspended/ restricted?
    Would you recommend doing anything before going to court?
  • 01-26-2008, 06:41 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Eighteen-Year-Olds Ticketed For Illegal Possession Of Alcohol In Virginia
    First you say that you and your friends are charged with possession of alcohol. Next you say "the officers let me off the hook and just made my parents come pick us up" - so were you charged or not? (I guess you mean only that you weren't charged with drunk driving.) Then you ask a bunch of questions without specifying whether they are about you or your friends, or clarifying what charge you are asking about. So it's difficult to answer you.

    MIP charges frequently result in license suspensions, regardless of whether the minor is driving.
    Quote:

    Quoting Virginia Code § 4.1-305 - Purchasing or possessing alcoholic beverages unlawful in certain cases; venue; exceptions; penalty; forfeiture; deferred proceedings; treatment and education programs and services.
    A. No person to whom an alcoholic beverage may not lawfully be sold under § 4.1-304 shall consume, purchase or possess, or attempt to consume, purchase or possess, any alcoholic beverage, except (i) pursuant to subdivisions 1 through 7 of § 4.1-200; (ii) where possession of the alcoholic beverages by a person less than 21 years of age is due to such person's making a delivery of alcoholic beverages in pursuance of his employment or an order of his parent; or (iii) by any state, federal, or local law-enforcement officer when possession of an alcoholic beverage is necessary in the performance of his duties. Such person may be prosecuted either in the county or city in which the alcohol was possessed or consumed, or in the county or city in which the person exhibits evidence of physical indicia of consumption of alcohol.

    B. No person under the age of 21 years shall use or attempt to use any (i) altered, fictitious, facsimile or simulated license to operate a motor vehicle, (ii) altered, fictitious, facsimile or simulated document, including, but not limited to a birth certificate or student identification card, or (iii) motor vehicle operator's license, birth certificate or student identification card of another person in order to establish a false identification or false age for himself to consume, purchase or attempt to consume or purchase an alcoholic beverage.

    C. Any person found guilty of a violation of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor; and upon conviction, (i) such person shall be ordered to pay a mandatory minimum fine of $500 or ordered to perform a mandatory minimum of 50 hours of community service as a condition of probation supervision and (ii) the license to operate a motor vehicle in the Commonwealth of any such person age 18 or older shall be suspended for a period of not less than six months and not more than one year. The court, in its discretion and upon a demonstration of hardship, may authorize any person convicted of a violation of this section the use of a restricted permit to operate a motor vehicle in accordance with the provisions of subsection D of § 16.1-278.9 or subsection E of § 18.2-271.1 or when referred to a local community-based probation services agency established pursuant to Article 9 (§ 9.1-173 et seq.) of Chapter 1 of Title 9.1. During the period of license suspension, the court may require a person issued a restricted permit under the provisions of this subsection to be (i) monitored by an alcohol safety action program, or (ii) supervised by a local community-based probation services agency established pursuant to Article 9 (§ 9.1-173 et seq.) of Chapter 1 of Title 9.1, if one has been established for the locality. The alcohol safety action program or local community-based probation services agency shall report to the court any violation of the terms of the restricted permit, the required alcohol safety action program monitoring or local community-based probation services and any condition related thereto or any failure to remain alcohol-free during the suspension period.

    D. Any alcoholic beverage purchased or possessed in violation of this section shall be deemed contraband and forfeited to the Commonwealth in accordance with § 4.1-338.

    E. Any retail licensee who in good faith promptly notifies the Board or any state or local law-enforcement agency of a violation or suspected violation of this section shall be accorded immunity from an administrative penalty for a violation of § 4.1-304.

    F. When any person who has not previously been convicted of underaged consumption, purchase or possession of alcoholic beverages in Virginia or any other state or the United States is before the court, the court may, upon entry of a plea of guilty or not guilty, if the facts found by the court would justify a finding of guilt of a violation of subsection A, without entering a judgment of guilt and with the consent of the accused, defer further proceedings and place him on probation subject to appropriate conditions. Such conditions may include the imposition of the license suspension and restricted license provisions in subsection C. However, in all such deferred proceedings, the court shall require the accused to enter a treatment or education program or both, if available, that in the opinion of the court best suits the needs of the accused. If the accused is placed on local community-based probation, the program or services shall be located in any of the judicial districts served by the local community-based probation services agency or in any judicial district ordered by the court when the placement is with an alcohol safety action program. The services shall be provided by (i) a program licensed by the Department of Mental Health, Mental Retardation and Substance Abuse Services, (ii) certified by the Commission on VASAP, or (iii) by a program or services made available through a community-based probation services agency established pursuant to Article 9 (§ 9.1-173 et seq.) of Chapter 1 of Title 9.1, if one has been established for the locality. When an offender is ordered to a local community-based probation services rather than the alcohol safety action program, the local community-based probation services agency shall be responsible for providing for services or referring the offender to education or treatment services as a condition of probation.

    Upon violation of a condition, the court may enter an adjudication of guilt and proceed as otherwise provided. Upon fulfillment of the conditions, the court shall discharge the person and dismiss the proceedings against him without an adjudication of guilt. A discharge and dismissal hereunder shall be treated as a conviction for the purpose of applying this section in any subsequent proceedings.

    The marijuana possession is not your problem, but I wouldn't be surprised if the officer or prosecutor tried to raise the question of whether you had been smoking in the car.

    Get a lawyer and see if you can challenge the validity of the search, or what type of plea deal you may be able to get.
  • 01-26-2008, 08:09 AM
    lwpat
    Re: Eighteen-Year-Olds Ticketed For Illegal Possession Of Alcohol In Virginia
    The only way the search could be questioned is whether there was no RAS for the stop. Based on her description, I doubt it. A lower court will almost always find the search was legal so then you have the expense of an appeal. If you are going to drive, don't drink. If you hang around friends that keep drugs on them you are going to eventually get in much more trouble, especially if you let them in your car. You are lucky all of you were not charged.
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