Macys 3rd Degree Retail Theft In Michigan

ok so last week i recently got caught shoplifting. the prices of the 2 items totaled up to 102.00.$ this is my first offense, my record is completely clean. although the LP told me to plea guilty because if there is another court date "macys people" will come and fight me in court. i think he was just scaring me so i plea guilty.
and i also looked up the HYTA is available in my county, and should i plea not guilty and hopefully a prosecuter makes a deal with me? i CANNOT be convicted of this crime, i want to do anything to avoid having a misdemeanor on my record.
i also realize there are civil penalty fees, which i am 100% okay with.

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ok so last week i recently got caught shoplifting. the prices of the 2 items totaled up to 102.00.$ this is my first offense, my record is completely clean. although the LP told me to plea guilty because if there is another court date "macys people" will come and fight me in court. i think he was just scaring me so i plea guilty.
and i also looked up the HYTA is available in my county, and should i plea not guilty and hopefully a prosecuter makes a deal with me? i CANNOT be convicted of this crime, i want to do anything to avoid having a misdemeanor on my record.
i also realize there are civil penalty fees, which i am 100% okay with.

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Get an attorney and have him/her petition for the HYTA (assuming you are eligible.)

More information:

http://www.geocities.com/citizens_se...ances/faq.html

thank you...
but i have to find out from the court before my court date about the HYTA program? and then what do i apply for it,
so would that mean i would have to plea guilty or not guilty to be in this program?

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thank you...
but i have to find out from the court before my court date about the HYTA program? and then what do i apply for it,
so would that mean i would have to plea guilty or not guilty to be in this program?

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Please click on the link I provided above. You can then go to the Michigan statutes from that link and read Section 762.11 - Section 762.16.

You should seriously consult with an attorney - so you have the best chance of getting a second chance.

im looking for someone that has gone through this, or something similar to give me advice.

What you need is an Attorney not somone who went through something similar! That advice could be wrong for your case and you stand to lose much.

if convicted.
how long does a misdemeanor stay on my record for?

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if convicted.
how long does a misdemeanor stay on my record for?

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Forever
Its part of your record unless expunged

okayyyy....
shit
so how do i get it expunged?


but most likely , ill be given a second chance right?
like the HYTA program?

Lets go back to some earlier replies. Find an Attorney and ask about options. One such option might be diversion.

how much will talking to an attorney cost me.
and if diversion is an option
how do i obtain that option?
do i have to apply for it?

Attorney fees vary but many offer free consultaion. Once you talk to Lawyer ask about Diversion as these programs vary

first time offense. do you honestly think i should be worried about being convicted?
i am a second year college student and i cannot afford to have this placed on my record FOREVER.

You committed theft yes you should be worried about an conviction

well what if im put on deferred probation?
are my chances good that they will let me prove myself?
what are outcomes of these cases usually

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well what if im put on deferred probation?

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Your pretty much talking Diversion here

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are my chances good that they will let me prove myself?

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I'm sorry but the expert law crystal ball is out being recalibrated so contact Vegas for your odds

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what are outcomes of these cases usually

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See last answer

The availability of diversion programs varies by county, and that option is not available in most Michigan counties.

A deferred sentence, such as HYTA sentencing, is more likely if you qualify and you otherwise have a clean record.

A local attorney can guide you through the process. Hire a lawyer, or request a court-appointed lawyer through the court.

okay-- how do i find out if HYTA is available in my county. (macomb)


my incident happened a week ago,
and i am no longer nervous.
its useless to worry about right?
just get legal help and thats the best i can do?

ALSO.
i heard if i plea not guilty...my sentance will be lighter.
i have a CLEAN SLATE...
but

if i also plea not guilty, i will have another court date and will that mean i will face macys reps???

it was only 100$ will they make that effort to fight me?
i am paying the civil demand...

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okay-- how do i find out if HYTA is available in my county. (macomb)


my incident happened a week ago,
and i am no longer nervous.
its useless to worry about right?
just get legal help and thats the best i can do?

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According to a news article dated Nov. 22, 2007, it was available to a teen that admitted to stealing a purse in Macomb county, MI.

http://macombdaily.com/stories/11220...purse001.shtml

Do not rely on what you hear. Talk to an Attorney familar with both criminal law and HYTA. That is where you will get sound legal advice

WOW.
that article makes me feel better. but she pleaded guilty?

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WOW.
that article makes me feel better. but she pleaded guilty?

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Below is a copy of the motion that YOUR attorney would file for placement under HYTA:

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MOTION FOR PLACEMENT UNDER HOLMES YOUTHFUL TRAINEE ACT

The Defendant, defendant’s name, by his or her attorney, defense attorney’s name, moves this Court for placement under the Holmes Youthful Trainee Act, stating in support the following:

1.On date of conviction, defendant pled guilty to conviction offense(s), statutory citation.

2.Sentencing in this matter is scheduled to take place on date.

3.Apart from this case, Defendant has no prior misdemeanor or felony convictions.

4.Defendant’s name, whose birthday is date, was years of age at the time of the offense, date of offense.

5.Defendant meets the criteria for eligibility to be placed under the status of youthful trainee contained in MCL 762.11 . State relevant criteria and how they are satisfied.

6.The circumstances of the offense and the Defendant’s situation indicate a very low risk of recidivism. State factual support.

For these reasons the Defendant, defendant’s name, asks this Court to grant his or her placement under the Holmes Youthful Trainee Act.

Respectfully submitted,

By: __________________________________

Defense attorney’s name (bar number)

Attorney for Defendant

Address

Address

Telephone

Date: filing date

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Do you see now why you are advised to consult with an attorney?

yes yes yes yes

thank you so much for your time and effort

greatly appreciated.

i'm going through the same thing right now with macys. they tried getting me to pay them $200. when i tried to pay it they told me they would just give me a reciept from the cash register. i asked them if they would type a paper up saying that i paid the full amount on this date to show the judge. the manager acted like i was crazy.my court date is on monday. i'm really nervous. i'm hoping that i can qualify for the holmes youthful training act. if you have any advice you could give me that'd be wonderful

People have replied and told you: Get a Criminal Defense Attorney. How many people need to tell you this?

Ok: Look:

Plead guilty. You get the max sentence.
Plead "I Stand Mute"...ask for a Public Defender (not free in a lot of areas) and take your chances.

Civil Demand: Pay by Credit Card, Check, or Money Order so you have proof of payment.