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  • 12-05-2007, 06:04 PM
    MissyKrissy928
    Father's Legal Rights To Child, Before And After Birth
    I am currently pregnant. Most of my family is currently living in England, and I plan to move there soon to be with my family the rest of the pregnancy and for the birth. My boyfriend and I (never married) broke up because he "needed space" after I told him about the pregnancy. However, his family clearly wants me to move to Illinois to be closer to them. I have dual citizenship (US and Norwegian). I have not yet decided what to do, but have given the father many chances to be active in the pregnancy and discuss the future of our child, but he seems unconcerned with regard to this. My fear is that I will get settled in England, and then be served with papers requiring him visitation in the States. I don't know British law on citizenship, but I'm assuming since neither parents are citizens neither is the baby. If I request her to have Norwegian citizenship will that have any effect on the control over US custody laws. I'm not trying to deny the father is right, but I just don't see why I should have to remain in the US away from my family just so he can have visitation rights. Also, he will not be at the birth, so does this mean he will have no legal rights to begin with? He is well aware of my plans to go to England and have the baby there, but I don't know if I need him to sign something to state that he's aware of my attentions, so he doesn't try to claim that I left without his permission. What steps should I take to ensure that me and my child's rights will be protected in the event that he sues for custody?
  • 12-07-2007, 08:21 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Question About Father's Legal Rights To Child
    If you move before the child is born, it would be difficult for him to pursue a paternity action in the United States. It would be possible, but there would be difficulties with jurisdiction and service. But every nation has paternity laws, so he could also pursue an action wherever you and the child end up. If you wait until the child is born and a paternity action is commenced, there is a possibility that a court will deny you permission to remove the child from the country.

    Some states permit paternity actions to be filed prior to birth. Did you mention your state somewhere in there? If your state permits that, and he files such an action, it may be possible for him to get an order relating to your travel prior to the administration of a paternity test, and for him to get a default judgment of paternity and custody if you depart before court proceedings are over.
  • 12-07-2007, 09:04 AM
    moonlief73
    Re: Question About Father's Legal Rights To Child
    Regardless of where the child is born, they will say he has the right to see the child. If he is not interested as you say, I suggest that you simply tell him that you might need him to help with things. Don't tell him this until you are safely back in your country. Tell him over the phone. If he is not interested in seeing your child & wants no trouble, that will be the last time you hear from him. But be aware!!! If you go on Welfare in your country, the Government in your country will track down your ex to have him help pay to support your child. If this happens, he may feel bitter enough to track you down & see his child. If you leave, leave with the attitude of being fair, & making it on your own. . . :p
  • 12-07-2007, 02:59 PM
    MissyKrissy928
    Re: Question About Father's Legal Rights To Child
    I currently reside in New Jersey and he is from Illinois (we are both seniors at college). My primary concern is whether or not I need some kind of document stating he's aware of my intent to have the baby overseas. I'm not trying to cut him out of her life, but I do not want this issue to be raised during a custody case in the future and for him to claim that it was an attempt to abduct her or something like that. Financially I can support myself, and do not plan on requesting child support.
  • 12-07-2007, 06:56 PM
    moonlief73
    Re: Father's Legal Rights To Child, Before And After Birth
    If you leave the country & give birth overseas, you are not abducting anyone. You are still pregnant, correct? Hvorfor vil du reiser til norge utan pappa? er han ikke snill med deg? norge er et fin land til og har barnet. . . :p
  • 12-07-2007, 10:12 PM
    MissyKrissy928
    Re: Father's Legal Rights To Child, Before And After Birth
    Jeg vil ros babyen inne Norge. Faren ville være igjen inne Oss.
  • 12-07-2007, 11:11 PM
    moonlief73
    Re: Father's Legal Rights To Child, Before And After Birth
    Vis faren vil ikke har deg, sa tanker jeg at det er bedre og flyta tilbaka til norge. Var very careful til og ikke kod med han nar du er har i usa. Amerikansk gutter kan bli helt gal vis du gjor noe stukt med dem. min norsk er ikke perfekt vet jeg, men prover og lesser vad jeg skriver. Vis du flyter tilbaka til norge, det er mye betre og veldig koslig til og har baby der. Har i usa, er det veldig expensive til og har barn. Hur gammel er din man og hur gammel er du?
  • 12-08-2007, 11:16 AM
    MissyKrissy928
    Re: Father's Legal Rights To Child, Before And After Birth
    Sorry my written Norwegian is not very good. I am 21.
  • 12-08-2007, 01:08 PM
    moonlief73
    Re: Father's Legal Rights To Child, Before And After Birth
    So you were not born & raised in Norway?The first line you wrote was fine! You are very young to be having children. I am not an expert on law, but I do understand people. I can tell you what your boyfriend must be thinking or something close to it. First you told me that he needed time or space from you when you informed him that you were pregnant. That tells me that he was unprepared for the news. It also tells me that he is young, because that reaction is immature. What you need to understand, is what he is thinking & then come up with a solution to ease his fears. The decision you make today will change your life forever. If you leave your boyfriend, then you are a single mother. Your child will carry the burden of wondering who his or her father was. That is a deep pain that never goes away. You really have to think about that. America is a difficult place to have children. I had my child in Sweden. Sweden & Norway are identical except the names. Even the language is practically the same. I would tell your boyfriend that it might be a good idea to move to Norway. It is free to have your baby, & the child gets 18 years of free medical. You must also persuade your boyfriend about how easy it is to live over there. You can get a house without barely trying. The three of you can live a wonderful life over there. I know that if my Swedish ex-wife did not steal our child as she did, I would still be over in Sweden to this day. It is not your boyfriends fault entirely. America is not an easy place to live. When a young man finds out that he will unexpectedly have a child, it is like a death nail to his future. You must persuade him that this is not the end, but rather an exciting beginning for all of you. . .

    My name is Shane :p
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