Marriage and Emancipation in Florida

from what I have read you have to be 16 to file for emancipation well my girl friend is turning 16 soon me and her have been going out for a long time I am 18 , so I am consider an adult , but she is not we want to get married as soon as possible because we have the fear her mother may send her to a boarding school in another state until she is of age to get out , her mother is kind of mentally ill .
her mother has already sent her away once just for bad grades where she got treated badly the whole time she was living with her grandmother , most of her family treats her badly they make her do things that she does not want to do , her father does nothing because he is worried that his wife will leave him if he doesn't do what she say;'s , my girl friend gets manipulated by her mother all the time , her mother does that to everyone or at least she try's to , I just ask for someone to help us , she does not have a job yet , she doesn't live by her self she lives with her parents because she has no choice . I don't have a job just yet but I am getting one I just need to know is there anyway at all that she could be free of her parents ????? please please , tell me :wallbang:

Short answer no you can't. She canno tmarry or move without parental consent. If her parents so choose they can seek a protective order to keep you from her and yes they can legally forbid her from seeing you. Last and your biggest fear. If you have had any sexual contact you can go to jail. Sexual contact does always mean just intercourse. Groping, fondling even kissing. FL is one of the toughest states when it comes to these crimes

Her parents would have to consent to marriage.

panther so your saying that even kissing her would be a crime ? , well when she turns 16 is she allowed to file for emancipation with out her parents consent ??? , also I read somewhere that if she got pregnant had a child and we told a judge that the child is ours . the judge could give a marriage license to us , is that correct , how does that work ?,..

and also about the whole jail thing , if my girl friend told a judge that she was completely willing . would I get off or what ? ,

and if not how long would it be for something like that ?


this is why I called my self question because I have alot of them lol:confused::wallbang:

well then I guess we will wait but if there would be away for her to emancipated then we wont have to wait lol but thanks

Emancipation does not make the illegal legal! Listen if you two realy care for each the feelings will still be there in two years. If one (or both) of you cave in to desire with another then best you found out.

ok I thought if she did get emancipated she would be consider 18 and would be allowed to marry ? is that correct ?

No it does not! She is still bound by age retrictive laws like sex, driving, drinking, voting etc. Emancipation only gives her certain rights required for independent living

And in Florida, unless her parents file the emancipation petition, she can't even get that far.

hmm thats interesting

ok I have to ask , in the state of Florida when someone turns 16 if there parents , will not allow her to have any freedom , like she is not allowed to go any where alone , she cannot go out of her parents site , she is to go to school and come home , and then no more contact to any one ,
if her parents are keeping her on a tight leash , so tight that she cannot do anything with out her parents saying so that she has no freedom can she file or talk to someone about getting emancipated or living with another family ??? .. half of this probably doesn't make any sense um I'm sorry if this gives people head aces lol but um I'm stressing here :wallbang: I need to know so someone please talk to me

How many different ways must you be told no!:wallbang: Nothing you describe is illegal! Overprotective maybe but not illegal

well that stinks , what would or could be called illegal . that she could catch her parents in doing

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well that stinks , what would or could be called illegal . that she could catch her parents in doing

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Florida crimes can be found here under TITLE XLVI.

thank you , if the minor gets hurt , like hit in the face or something , and the minor tells the cops that the minors mother or father , has hit them does the minor need to prove that they were hit or does it go by word alone , what is the case on that ???

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thank you , if the minor gets hurt , like hit in the face or something , and the minor tells the cops that the minors mother or father , has hit them does the minor need to prove that they were hit or does it go by word alone , what is the case on that ???

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Is this a hypothetical question?

If the police are called or she reported to them that she was being abused, the police would follow through with an investigation.

CPS may also be contacted and they may investigate as well.

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ok I have to ask , in the state of Florida when someone turns 16 if there parents , will not allow her to have any freedom , like she is not allowed to go any where alone , she cannot go out of her parents site , she is to go to school and come home , and then no more contact to any one ,
if her parents are keeping her on a tight leash , so tight that she cannot do anything with out her parents saying so that she has no freedom can she file or talk to someone about getting emancipated or living with another family ??? .. half of this probably doesn't make any sense um I'm sorry if this gives people head aces lol but um I'm stressing here :wallbang: I need to know so someone please talk to me

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Has it occurred to you yet what is really happening?

Her parents put her on this leash to keep their 15 year old child away from the adult male (YOU) that insists on figuring out a way to take the child out of their home.

I would be fighting you with every tool I had as well.

questions you need to let this go your way too obsessed with this. I suspect this might be more about your wants then her needs. With each answer you get you come up with another new situation. We dont read minds or prdict future. If she being abused than CPS and/or Police should be called. However that isnt going to get you what you want either. If she is removed from home (big if) she will be place din Foster care and ther eis no guarantee the Foster care family will allow you two to see each other. Your attempts to find a mean sto disrupt her family life is of no help. If I were her Father and knew what you were trying to do I would be seeking a protective order against you. She cant be emancipated and you two cannot marry thats the end of it. If she is removed from home because of abuse she will be placed in foster care who knows where with no gurantee Foster Care family will allow you two to see each other. Let it go for your sake and hers

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thank you , if the minor gets hurt , like hit in the face or something , and the minor tells the cops that the minors mother or father , has hit them does the minor need to prove that they were hit or does it go by word alone , what is the case on that ???

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Dude...

You have crossed from boyfriend to obsessive to wackjob.

Are you really going to try to trump up charges so that your girlfriend goes into foster care?

Parents are allowed to strike their children. It is called a spanking.

Maybe you think she is too old for it... apparently her parents believe differently.

Leave the little girl alone.

ok first of all not being obsessive second , me and my girlfriend are in love , third she can't stand her parents she would love to get away from them things is she can't look up how to get away from them , they will punish her ,the question about the hitting , was hypothetical , but for even a spanking , that is not allowed a parent is not allowed to strike there child it's not right , especially when they are 16

anyways , happy trails thank you for answering my question , with out being mean about it .

what kind of investigation will take place if the cops are called ? how would they find out if she was being abused or not

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ok first of all not being obsessive second , me and my girlfriend are in love , third she can't stand her parents she would love to get away from them things is she can't look up how to get away from them , they will punish her ,the question about the hitting , was hypothetical , but for even a spanking , that is not allowed a parent is not allowed to strike there child it's not right , especially when they are 16

anyways , happy trails thank you for answering my question , with out being mean about it .

what kind of investigation will take place if the cops are called ? how would they find out if she was being abused or not

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OHHHHH... you are in LOVE!!!

That changes nothing. And why wouldn't a parent be allowed to slap a child in the face? Especially if it wasn't hard enough to leave any marks?

And she's not 16... she's 15.

If you call the Department of Children's services on the parents, a couple of things will happen.

If your call is deemed worthy (and the call of an unwanted adult about the child he "loves" is VERY suspect - adults are smarter than that), an investigator will be dispatched to the house to look for signs of abuse. Nothing, repeat nothing, that you have mentioned approaches abuse.

Second, the parents will go out of their way to make sure that the jerk of an adult that was stalking their 15 year old child to the point where he trumped up child abuse charges on her parents never sees her again.

I would have a restraining order on you so fast your head would spin.

One more thing...

You are obviously trying to get her parents arrested for something because some part of your brain believes that if they go to jail you will get the little girl.

It doesn't work that way. If her parents are convicted and sent to prison, then the girl will be release to a relative that HER PARENTS choose or to foster care.

Neither of those places will let you see her either.

ok more rude comments , I can wait two years for her , but her parents keep her miserable even when I' am around they don't keep me and her away from each other and I am not trying to get them to go to jail I'm doing what she wants and that is to ask questions about this matter ask if there is any way that she would be away from her parents yes I do love this girl as she love's me and as far as I know as long as there has not been any sexual things going on between us that it is perfectly legal for us to be dating and for us to be in love , so before any other rude comments look at this ,

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ok more rude comments , I can wait two years for her , but her parents keep her miserable even when I' am around they don't keep me and her away from each other and I am not trying to get them to go to jail I'm doing what she wants and that is to ask questions about this matter ask if there is any way that she would be away from her parents yes I do love this girl as she love's me and as far as I know as long as there has not been any sexual things going on between us that it is perfectly legal for us to be dating and for us to be in love , so before any other rude comments look at this ,

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You don't seem to understand this.

It is NOT legal for you to be dating and for you to be in love if her parents say no. If they say you are not allowed to see her, then you are not allowed to see her. Period.

No other discussion is necessary.

it is legal to date , and yea the parents are a issue but as long as they say we can date it's legal even if they say we cant

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it is legal to date , and yea the parents are a issue but as long as they say we can date it's legal even if they say we cant

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No, it's not.

You are correct that there is no law that says you cannot date. However, as far as the law is concerned, her parents CAN make the legal illegal in regards to her welfare.

If they have said she is not allowed to see you... that is the end of the discussion. They win. You lose.

I don't know how to say it any clearer.

There is no judge in any jurisdiction that will say that your right to date their 15 year old daughter trumps their rights as parents to ensure her welfare.

Date someone else.

There is no law ANYWHERE that is going to force her parents to allow you to date if they don't want you to.

There is no law ANYWHERE that is ever going to force the parents of a minor child to see someone they do not wish her to see.

If you believe otherwise, please feel free to post the statute that says so.

Go ahead. We'll wait.

well thank you for your input but um I will not date anyone else this is mine as I'm hers , it will stay that way , even if her parents say other wise , I know there is punishment for something like , but I know that the worst punishment there is , would have to be takening the one I love away , and telling us that we aren't in love, that we will never get to see each other , that we weren't meant for each other , that would hurt more than trying to keep us apart ,

law has nothing to do with love ,

Just so you can't say I didn't warn you....

You have zero legal standing in that child's life. None.

Therefore, you have no right to judge her life as proper or not.

You may not believe this, but 15 year old girls are subject to drama. They frequently embellish the facts... especially when trying to impress adult boyfriends as to their "mature" state.

I have a daughter about the same age. If this was my daughter you were insisting on seeing, I would make sure your life was absolutely the worst I could.

In fact, the best you could hope from me is a warning shot. Just kidding.

I don't give warning shots.

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law has nothing to do with love ,

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Yes, it does.

There are many things that feel good that the law says you can't do.

By the way, "I am in love" is not an affirmative defense to child molestation, statutory rape or the violation of a restraining order.

very true but before there was law there was love ,

and no one can say if they have a daughter or not that if she was happy and content and was enjoying life , would you really want to take that joy away from her , would u really want to make your daughter miserable no one wants something like that , for there child they want the best , and even when they don't see it but there child does , then they should agree with the child , and the dude with the warning shot thing , funny , no not really ,

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ok first of all not being obsessiveI agree with cyjeff you are and its not going to help her second , me and my girlfriend are in loveIf I had anickle for every poster that said that:rolleyes: , third she can't stand her parentsA fair average of all teens feel the same its part of growing up and expected she would love to get away from them things is she can't look up how to get away from them , they will punish her ,the question about the hitting , was hypothetical , but for even a spanking , that is not allowed a parent is not allowed to strike there child it's not right , especially when they are 16

anyways , happy trails thank you for answering my question , with out being mean about it .

what kind of investigation will take place if the cops are called ? how would they find out if she was being abused or not

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You need to let this go or you and Britney Spears might be sharing a room at a hospital. Thre is nothing you can do nor should you. If she being abused (still in question) she can report the abuse herself or talk to a school copunselor who is madated by law to report all suspected abuse

No, no one wants their daughter to be miserable.

Therefore, sometimes a good and loving parent will say NO to something that they can see is ultimately going to be destructive. Sometimes, a parent actually knows more than the child what is good for them. Sometimes, it's necessary for a parent to temporarily make the child miserable so that they can ultimately be happy in the long term.

A four year old would love to have nothing but ice cream and candy for dinner every night, but a good and loving parent will not permit it, even if it makes the child sad.

BTW, I am a parent. Jeff is a parent. Panther is a parentl Aaron is (I believe) a parent. You are not a parent, so don't try to teach us about parenting.

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very true but before there was law there was love ,

and no one can say if they have a daughter or not that if she was happy and content and was enjoying life , would you really want to take that joy away from her , would u really want to make your daughter miserable no one wants something like that , for there child they want the best , and even when they don't see it but there child does , then they should agree with the child , and the dude with the warning shot thing , funny , no not really ,

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Ya know what?

My job as a father isn't to make my daughter happy. My job as a father is to teach and protect her until she has the knowledge to make it on her own.

If my choices were to either let my 15 year old daughter be with the adult man that is stalking her or for her to be unhappy, I will just buy more Kleenex.

Children do not have the experience or the emotional clarity to make their own decisions. Her parents have made hers for her. If that means that my kid hates me from time to time, that comes with the enormous salary.

Besides, she has had 3 new BFF's WHILE WE HAVE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. She may have already forgotten about you.

no my friend it would not work that way , she is my girl friend , she does love me , her parents are idiots , well her mom any ways , she knows what love is , she knows what is best for her , she is very smart at 16 , she knows what she wants out of life , and at 16 I believe that you are at the starting point of know what is good for you , and good for your future isn't that why your allowed to be emancipated at 16 , your allowed to work , at that time you almost know everything you need to know , to make it in life , well to at least be on you own

Someone PM me when the OP is done flogging this dead horse - I'll have the grill and steak sauce ready.

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Someone PM me when the OP is done flogging this dead horse - I'll have the grill and steak sauce ready.

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Agreed.

All I will finish by saying is...

"Your" is a possessive pronoun
"You're" is a contraction of the words "You" and "are".

Before you consider yourself grown up enough to consider marriage, learn your mother tongue.

this whole topic was to ask for support and answer some question that I couldn't answer my self , now when I posted this topic I didn't look for people to give me rude comments I just wanted help , is this how you people treat everyone , like they are your enemy

questions you have been your own worst enemy from the start. You got your legal answers long ago but you kept coming back and coming back with more stuff. Its simple she isnt going to be emancipated and she isnt going to live with you. Furthermore depending on how much contact you have already had you could be facing a protective order or even sexual assault charges! Not to mention your obession with harming her parents