Retail Theft

sorry..i'm just confused and scared and i want it to be all over with and i've been told alot of different things. sorry for annoying you

Not here. You been told over and over to consult with a criminal defense Attorney or request a Public Defender then ask that Attorney about diversion. You have further been told its a bad idea to meet with DA on your own! the people at the courthouse work for the court! Think about it!! They are also not Attorneys they are clerks! Now you can listen to them or follow the advice you got here. If you choose to ignore what you have heard here, which is fine if you so choose. Then stop posting and asking questions

I wouldn't say it's necessarily a "bad idea" to meet with a prosecutor without a lawyer. Sometimes you get the same deal you would get with a lawyer. But other times you don't, and end up with a worse outcome, so it is wise and sensible to consult a criminal defense lawyer before talking to the prosecutor.

thank you. i'm just going to go to court and see what happens, hopefully the diversion get sme communtiy service, mabye probation, pay my fines and put it all behnd me cuz i ain't neverrrrrrr doing this agian

Ok so your going to disregard everything you were told!:wallbang:

ok first of all , aaron, has told me i need to plead guilty in order to get the diversion program. Thats what i understand, from what he has told me.

Just because you plead guilty does not mean you get diversion! Aaron also told you to consult with an Attorney! You asked for advice you got it you seem bound to do this on your own! I hope it works out but you hav emuch to lose if you try to do this yourself!!

i know if i plea guilty i "might" not get diversion. But when i go into court either i'm gonna have to plea...something...or the prosecuter will just make me an offer and i can get the charges dropped if i finish the program.

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i know if i plea guilty i "might" not get diversion. But when i go into court either i'm gonna have to plea...something...or the prosecuter will just make me an offer and i can get the charges dropped if i finish the program.

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No thats not how it works either. Your assuming you can get charges dismissed.

ok so what the deal with diversion..i thought it was a program you could complete to get the charge off your record.

LISTEN! Yes you are correct but pleading guilty without a prearranged Plea deal will not gurantee such a sentence. Diversion is not automatic. In fact if you plead guilty i would suspect a good chance that you don't get diversion although its still possible. furthermore the time to ask for Diversion is before court! Its part of plea deal. You plead guilty DA agrees to Diversion its a win/win. If you bring it up at court DA can refuse and if you still wish to plead guilty you get what you get. If you withdraw or change your plea because DA wont agree to diversion request you could piss off both DA and judge for wasting court time. Now for your own sake follow the advice given and consult with a criminal defense Attorney and when in court request PD if you cannot afford your own Attorney! If you still wish to pursue this on your own then you really have no need of this website

OK well thanks panther if there is any thing else i need i'll be sure to get back with you!!! :)

What you need is advice from an Attorney please go seek one out or ask for PD some you can get best possible result for you!

alrighty..i'll let you know the outcome.

what is subsequent offense mean

Subsequent.

ok so because of my case before when i was 12 because of shoplifting it's subsequent.....will this make it harder for me to get diversion? or because i was a minor they won't really look at it like that? i'm really scared now.....if i get a public defender do you think they can help me better with this situation..being a "subsequent offense"

Qualifications for diversion vary for each state even each county. Ask your Attorney this as he/she will be familar with local laws and Judges reactions to this

have you ever heard of diversion after subsequent offense, i don't understand when i was younger and made this stupid mistake they told me it would be off my record. but they can still use it against you. do you think i will get jail, other than this i'm a good citizen i'm a full time student. who just made two mistakes.

Diversion programs (as stated) vary however having aprior will likely remove that chance however if it happened when you were a minor this could still work. Discuss this with your Attorney when you meet with him/her. Far as jail etc your Attorney will know the judges etc an dhow they sentence

i've been reading these forums, and the possiblitie of jail is unlikley as i hear. the fact that it is petit theft, does that matter, i mean stealing 24 $ is better than 200 right? even though stealing at all isn't good

You are correct however the dollar value is what makes it felony vs misdemeanor.

Unless we start addressing some new issues, instead of repeating the same thing over and over, it's time to close out this discussion.