Amnesty for Non-Violent First Offenders

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The worry would be offenders that put the employer at risk for more damaging behaviors (sexual assaults, attacks, etc.).

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Most non-voilet offenders I know would never dream of doing that. Like I said, there is a huge difference between the morals of druggies and rapist.

When somebody is in the grips of addiction, morality has little to do with it. They will do what the need to do to feed their addiction.

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Quoting blueeagle

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Most non-voilet offenders I know would never dream of doing that. Like I said, there is a huge difference between the morals of druggies and rapist.

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I wasn't inferring that they would. What I meant to say was that there are other convicted felons looking for jobs as well and sometimes they might get hired ... sometimes they don't always admit to an employer the REAL crimes they were sent up for. Or, they don't admit what they were originally charged with ... many serious offenses are dropped to less serious ones in order to get a plea. In CA private employers do not have access to state criminal offender records so they cannot check that unless they get lucky on a public records search and find a court record somewhere.

- Carl

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Quoting aaron

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When somebody is in the grips of addiction, morality has little to do with it. They will do what the need to do to feed their addiction.

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Amen on that.

I do a series of drug presentations each month for the county and in it I cite several instances of death due to neglect by parents who have been caught in the throes of their addictions. In one case a mother tried to sell her young daughter off for drugs ... fortunately, the doper she tried to sell her to had a conscience and reported it.

There are many such examples like that. It's sad how driving a force the addiction can become, and how damaging it can become to families ... it is NOT a "victimless" crime as many are wont to say.

- Carl

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Quoting cdwjava

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In CA private employers do not have access to state criminal offender records so they cannot check that unless they get lucky on a public records search and find a court record somewhere.

- Carl

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You're kidding? Can't they do some form of background check?

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Quoting blueeagle

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You're kidding? Can't they do some form of background check?

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Sure ... they can pay someone to go hunting through his background by checking out references and former employers. Maybe, even, checking local court records.

They can also pay to have a public records' search done by a background firm or online company.

But, the state of CA does not release criminal history info. However, local court records of court actions and results CAN be done ... though they are rarely done.

- carl

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Quoting cdwjava

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Then, perhaps, someone should start a campaign to educate potential employers why they shoudl hire the convicted felons.

Perhaps when lawyers stop suing employers for the actions of their employees who had prior records an employer might be more open to hiring a convict. But, when an employer gets sued because he hired a felon with a history of sex crimes (that the employer was not aware of) and the employee attacks a child, then the employer is likely to avoid ANY convict.

In order to minimize liability, an employer is likely to avoid ANY potential problems. Sometimes that might mean avoiding convicted felons.

- Carl

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I wonder if this could be an issue of type of employment? I can understand doing background checks and being liable in the case of cause employment; but, at-will employment doesn't have cause stipulations and should not have the same liabilities as for cause employment.

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Quoting cdwjava

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Sure ... they can pay someone to go hunting through his background by checking out references and former employers. Maybe, even, checking local court records.

They can also pay to have a public records' search done by a background firm or online company.

But, the state of CA does not release criminal history info. However, local court records of court actions and results CAN be done ... though they are rarely done.

- carl

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Is this the same way in the Great State of Texas?

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Quoting blueeagle

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Is this the same way in the Great State of Texas?

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It appears that much of that information IS public record in Texas:

https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DP...Cch/index.aspx

- Carl

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Quoting cdwjava

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It appears that much of that information IS public record in Texas:

https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DP...Cch/index.aspx

- Carl

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That is so not right... Some people just need a break. I don't think non-violent offenses should be disclosed to the public.