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Daniel Palos
I was not proved guilty, so yes, it means I am innocent simply Because I was not proved guilty. You must presume not assume, innocence, in my case.
In our legal system "not guilty" does not equal "innocent". Not guilty simply means that the state couldn't prove guilt. The defendant could have actually been guilty even though the state couldn't prove it.
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Daniel Palos
I was not proved guilty, so yes, it means I am innocent simply Because I was not proved guilty. You must presume not assume, innocence, in my case.
All because you believe it to be so does not mean it is. Legal innocence is a different matter entirely. But, you aren't here to learn, you are here to rant. So, have fun.
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Many people are aquitted of crimes (or have their charges dismissed). They are not entitled to be "made whole."
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Taxing Matters
In our legal system "not guilty" does not equal "innocent". Not guilty simply means that the state couldn't prove guilt. The defendant could have actually been guilty even though the state couldn't prove it.
Is the term "innocent until proven guilty" a false statement?
Example: If the police have enough evidence to make an arrest (which isn't much) but not enough evidence to proceed to trial, and they drop the charges, is that person never innocent of those original charges that were dropped?
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CONNOR99
Is the term "innocent until proven guilty" a false statement?
Example: If the police have enough evidence to make an arrest (which isn't much) but not enough evidence to proceed to trial, and they drop the charges, is that person never innocent of those original charges that were dropped?
Courts don't decide innocence they decide guilt.
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PayrolGuy
Courts don't decide innocence they decide guilt.
You did not answer the question...but maybe you did not intend to.
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CONNOR99
Is the term "innocent until proven guilty" a false statement?
Example: If the police have enough evidence to make an arrest (which isn't much) but not enough evidence to proceed to trial, and they drop the charges, is that person never innocent of those original charges that were dropped?
Innocence is a presumption. It's also immaterial to David's rants. Even if he was found innocent, pardoned by the president, and God himself opened up the skies and cast a beam of light on him, THERE'S NO OBLIGATION ON THE STATE'S PART TO MAKE HIM "WHOLE." That's not how the justice system works. That's not how any of this works.
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Innocence is a presumption. It's also immaterial to David's rants. Even if he was found innocent, pardoned by the president, and God himself opened up the skies and cast a beam of light on him, THERE'S NO OBLIGATION ON THE STATE'S PART TO MAKE HIM "WHOLE." That's not how the justice system works. That's not how any of this works.
So, is the term "innocent until proven guilty" a false statement? Yes or no?
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CONNOR99
So, is the term "innocent until proven guilty" a false statement? Yes or no?
It is true, in that, innocent is the opposite of guilty and one isn't legally guilty until they are found to be in a court of law.
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It is true, in that, innocent is the opposite of guilty and one isn't legally guilty until they are found to be in a court of law.
So, when charges are dropped that person is no longer innocent of that illegal act? Further, when a person is arrested on a charge, he can never be considered innocent of that illegal act?