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  • 07-28-2019, 11:42 AM
    bhartwell
    Tricked into Child Support
    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: CA

    Met a girl through a web site called “seeking arrangements”. The idea is you establish a no strings attached sugar baby relationship. Which we did. It worked for a just about two years. She used an IUD during this time and made it clear she was protected and pregnancy was not going to be an issue.

    I broke it off with her about 10 weeks ago. I started getting threatening letters from an anonymous source that “something” was going to happen about the same time. The last said “am I ready” and then a note from her that she is 10 weeks pregnant and that I would have to pay her child support.

    Assuming it is my child, what are my legal options? The women clearly only cares about the money, the child, if there is one, is just a tool to get paid. She will keep it, as if she aborted she would lose her leverage. Being tricked Into paying child support for the next 18 years has to be illegal. Do I have any recourse at all?
  • 07-28-2019, 12:33 PM
    eerelations
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
    If the child is indeed your child, then no matter how that child came to exist (via tricks, via mutual consent, via ignorance, via whatever), you are legally responsible to support that child. There is no way around this.

    (Please note that IUDs do not prevent pregnancy 100%. She may have been mistaken when she told you they did, or she may have been lying, but either way, it is just as much your responsibility to be up-to-date on the efficacy of various birth control methods.)
  • 07-28-2019, 12:41 PM
    bcr229
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
    Is this the same woman who you claimed was trying to blackmail you a few weeks ago?
    https://www.expertlaw.com/forums/sho...3989&p=1121511

    If this woman bears a child then request a paternity test. If the child is yours then you will be on the hook for child support and you can request visitation, the same as with your other children from your other marriage.
    https://www.expertlaw.com/forums/sho...67343&p=762075
  • 07-28-2019, 12:47 PM
    PMMH
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: CA

    Met a girl through a web site called “seeking arrangements”. The idea is you establish a no strings attached sugar baby relationship. Which we did. It worked for a just about two years. She used an IUD during this time and made it clear she was protected and pregnancy was not going to be an issue.

    I broke it off with her about 10 weeks ago. I started getting threatening letters from an anonymous source that “something” was going to happen about the same time. The last said “am I ready” and then a note from her that she is 10 weeks pregnant and that I would have to pay her child support.

    Assuming it is my child, what are my legal options? The women clearly only cares about the money, the child, if there is one, is just a tool to get paid. She will keep it, as if she aborted she would lose her leverage. Being tricked Into paying child support for the next 18 years has to be illegal. Do I have any recourse at all?

    Assuming you are an adult with no intellectual disability, you cannot be tricked into getting someone pregnant. You know how babies are made and you know that sex can equal pregnancy. Birth control fails and people lie, and that’s common knowledge too. You can’t get out of child support by claiming you only wanted sex and not a child, or that she told you she was on birth control, if that’s what you are asking. What you CAN do, if she is even really pregnant at all, is get a paternity test. Do not pay her anything while she’s pregnant, don’t sign any agreements. Wait until the child is born, don’t sign the birth certificate, and wait for a DNA test. If this child is yours, you will be financially responsible. You will also be allowed to have visitation or shared custody. I would wait until there is proof though, because someone being cut off from their sugar daddy suddenly turning up pregnant after two years is awfully suspect.
  • 07-28-2019, 01:22 PM
    just blue
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: CA

    Met a girl through a web site called “seeking arrangements”. The idea is you establish a no strings attached sugar baby relationship. Which we did. It worked for a just about two years. She used an IUD during this time and made it clear she was protected and pregnancy was not going to be an issue.

    I broke it off with her about 10 weeks ago. I started getting threatening letters from an anonymous source that “something” was going to happen about the same time. The last said “am I ready” and then a note from her that she is 10 weeks pregnant and that I would have to pay her child support.

    Assuming it is my child, what are my legal options? The women clearly only cares about the money, the child, if there is one, is just a tool to get paid. She will keep it, as if she aborted she would lose her leverage. Being tricked Into paying child support for the next 18 years has to be illegal. Do I have any recourse at all?

    I'm gonna hazard a guess that you don't have a really big, fat bank account...other wise you would be asking your attorney these questions instead of strangers on the net. If she is, indeed, pregnant with your child she is unlikely to get enough to support the child without working. When the child is born, file through the court for paternity/support/visitation.

    It's rather amazing to me that you are surprised/outraged/baffled that a woman that you hired off the net to have sex with you would be so cunning and mercenary.
  • 07-28-2019, 07:57 PM
    RJR
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    Being tricked Into paying child support for the next 18 years has to be illegal. Do I have any recourse at all?

    Tricked? No! If you were 13 and the victim of statutory rape, and fathered a child, you are still legally responsible for child support.
  • 07-28-2019, 08:23 PM
    just blue
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    Tricked? No! If you were 13 and the victim of statutory rape, and fathered a child, you are still legally responsible for child support.

    Really? You sure about that? A 13 year old child that was raped would have to legally support the baby? Cause I rather doubt it. But if you can find ONE case I'll eat my words. :)
  • 07-28-2019, 08:32 PM
    RJR
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    Really? You sure about that? A 13 year old child that was raped would have to legally support the baby? Cause I rather doubt it. But if you can find ONE case I'll eat my words. :)

    Common law in many jurisdictions. I read law cases on that controversial topic many years ago.

    https://law.justia.com/cases/kansas/.../67-978-3.html
  • 07-28-2019, 08:36 PM
    jk
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
    Is 14 close enough?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...m/amp/14953965


    And they speak of a case of a 15 yo in California in the same situation
  • 07-28-2019, 08:48 PM
    just blue
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    Is 14 close enough?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...m/amp/14953965


    And they speak of a case of a 15 yo in California in the same situation

    I was actually looking for RJR to come up with a 13 year old being court ordered. Not a 24 year old....kwim?
  • 07-28-2019, 09:06 PM
    jk
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    I was actually looking for RJR to come up with a 13 year old being court ordered. Not a 24 year old....kwim?

    Ok, so how about a 14 year old? From the article I linked

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    Olivas said he owes about $15,000 in back child support and medical bills going back to the child's birth, plus 10 percent interest. The state seized money from his bank account and is garnisheeing his wages at $380 a month
  • 07-28-2019, 09:47 PM
    just blue
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    Ok, so how about a 14 year old? From the article I linked

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    It's good enough. But can I eat the words tomorrow? My tummy is a bit upset....there was a shooting in my eldest child area...she was only absent from the festival because of a last min trip with her fiancé.
  • 07-29-2019, 04:59 AM
    jk
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
    The garlic festival shooting?
  • 07-29-2019, 10:13 AM
    pg1067
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    Met a girl through a web site called “seeking arrangements”.

    This statement, coupled with the subject header of the post, tells me this is going to be an interesting thread.


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    She used an IUD during this time and made it clear she was protected and pregnancy was not going to be an issue.

    Even if she were truthful about using an IUD, no method of artificial birth control is 100% effective.


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    Assuming it is my child, what are my legal options?

    Not really sure I understand the question. When you choose to have sex, you choose the consequences of doing so, one of which is the possibility -- no matter how remote -- that a pregnancy might result. If your paternity is established, you'll have the right to seek custody or visitation, and the noncustodial parent will have the obligation to pay child support.


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    Being tricked Into paying child support for the next 18 years has to be illegal.

    How does you willingly having sex equate to being "tricked into paying child support"?
  • 07-29-2019, 08:42 PM
    llworking
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    How does you willingly having sex equate to being "tricked into paying child support"?

    There are a certain number of men who believe that contraception should be infallible and that if their sexual partner gets pregnant then its on purpose and they have been "tricked". Unfortunately many of their families and new significant others believe the same.

    Its quite sad.
  • 07-30-2019, 05:06 AM
    eerelations
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    There are a certain number of men who believe that contraception should be infallible and that if their sexual partner gets pregnant then its on purpose and they have been "tricked". Unfortunately many of their families and new significant others believe the same.

    Its quite sad.

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  • 07-30-2019, 06:48 AM
    cbg
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    There are a certain number of men who believe that contraception should be infallible and that if their sexual partner gets pregnant then its on purpose and they have been "tricked". Unfortunately many of their families and new significant others believe the same.

    Its quite sad.

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    And a certain percentage of them also believe that the sole purpose of the allegedly deliberate pregnancy was to force child support, as if the overall cost of supporting a child as a single parent will be less than the support, and the "excess" is free money for the mother.
  • 07-30-2019, 11:52 AM
    eerelations
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
    If men want infallible contraception they should invent something.
  • 07-30-2019, 11:59 AM
    cbg
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
    There IS one form of infallible contraception but since it would require that they keep Mr. Happy caged instead of roaming free, they're not willing to make use of it.
  • 07-30-2019, 12:15 PM
    hr for me
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    There IS one form of infallible contraception but since it would require that they keep Mr. Happy caged instead of roaming free, they're not willing to make use of it.

    ROFLOL!!!! Yep!
  • 07-30-2019, 01:57 PM
    just blue
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    The garlic festival shooting?

    Yeah... They went to Tahoe instead...Thank GOD!
  • 07-30-2019, 05:28 PM
    RJR
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    How does you willingly having sex equate to being "tricked into paying child support"?

    Lucky he isn't a male seahorse, he carries the babies after the deed.
  • 07-31-2019, 09:12 AM
    jumanji
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
    Was my LeTourneau question removed? In line w/teen dads (even as victims of statutory rape) being ordered to pay CS?
  • 07-31-2019, 04:54 PM
    Mark47n
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    Was my LeTourneau question removed? In line w/teen dads (even as victims of statutory rape) being ordered to pay CS?

    Vili Fuallau and Mary Kay LeTourneau are married now and used to host a regular event, here in my neighborhood, called Hot for Teacher.
  • 08-04-2019, 02:28 PM
    Alice Aforethought
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
    No they broke up recently.
  • 08-04-2019, 03:06 PM
    eerelations
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    vili fuallau and mary kay letourneau are married now and used to host a regular event, here in my neighborhood, called hot for teacher.

    omg
  • 08-06-2019, 05:21 AM
    jumanji
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    Vili Fuallau and Mary Kay LeTourneau are married now and used to host a regular event, here in my neighborhood, called Hot for Teacher.

    I meant before they married. (and yes, they're now divorced.)
  • 08-06-2019, 06:13 AM
    llworking
    Re: Tricked into Child Support
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    Vili Fuallau and Mary Kay LeTourneau are married now and used to host a regular event, here in my neighborhood, called Hot for Teacher.

    According to People magazine the age difference finally got to them and the separated in April of this year. Supposedly the intimacy was long gone from the marriage. Their kids are 20 and 21. He is 35 and she is 57.
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