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Mother is Not Following Order After Final Visitation Order
Mother is not following the order. She is supposed to drop off child and I do the pickup. During summer she do both pick up and drop off. But now she expect me to do both and to cover all expenses pay gas and toll.
The order is on alternate weekend and with me for the whole month of July. However because of work Im only taking him with me for few hours and can’t take him on July but asked her to accommodate to my schedule meaning to bring him to the city when I’m off. She is refusing to do one of the pickup and wants me to do both.
I have no other choice than to file for violation which she also did. Requesting me to do both pick up and drop off at school and on summer and holidays at a near location in her city.
We’ve been talking on the phone but after I got upset and yelled at her for not picking up she is doing everything on message.
Also, theres a situation with stepmother where Im making clear to my son that she is not his mother but stepmom. That his little brother is his brother because he is son to his mother and of course teaching him that normal is “mother and father” not “mom and mom”. He is prohibited from talking to her when He is with me and I made it clear he will get time out. Im just trying to be honest with my son.
This is what she filed for:
the entry of the order, there has been a change of circumstances in that:
I dont own a vehicle to drive to the city. I have a one year old son to take care of. My wife who owns a vehicle started a new job and works 7 days a week in order to financially support my son as father does not cover any of my child expenses.
Because of this change of circumstances, the order should be modified as follows:
Im requesting pick up on Friday at school and drop off on Monday at school. On Holidays and summer break at a public location in my city.
Father is not following visitation order. don’t take my son on alternate weekend and cancelled july. Expect me to accommodate to his scheduled but insults and get verbally aggressive if things don’t go his way.
Im concern regarding my child mental health. Father talk to my child negatively about his family. Im concern with his discriminatory behavior against my wife and I. My child always comes home crying because father don’t want him to have a relationship with my wife. I have a recording of my son crying and telling me that his father prohibits my son to talk to my wife or punish him physically if he does. My son knows my wife since he was 2 years old and consider her as family.
IT IS NORMAL FOR ONE PARENT TO DO THE PICKUP AND THE OTHER THE DROP OFF. WHY SHE MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT?
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This is all on you, dude. I get that you have cultural differences that some of the advisors here don't grasp, but still... You are hurting that boy and no-one else. :wallbang:
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Good grief, are you here again?
Normal is whatever the parents agree to/the court orders.
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Mother is not following the order. She is supposed to drop off child and I do the pickup. During summer she do both pick up and drop off. But now she expect me to do both and to cover all expenses pay gas and toll.
The order is on alternate weekend and with me for the whole month of July. However because of work Im only taking him with me for few hours and can’t take him on July but asked her to accommodate to my schedule meaning to bring him to the city when I’m off. She is refusing to do one of the pickup and wants me to do both.
I have no other choice than to file for violation which she also did. Requesting me to do both pick up and drop off at school and on summer and holidays at a near location in her city.
We’ve been talking on the phone but after I got upset and yelled at her for not picking up she is doing everything on message.
Also, theres a situation with stepmother where Im making clear to my son that she is not his mother but stepmom. That his little brother is his brother because he is son to his mother and of course teaching him that normal is “mother and father” not “mom and mom”. He is prohibited from talking to her when He is with me and I made it clear he will get time out. Im just trying to be honest with my son.
This is what she filed for:
the entry of the order, there has been a change of circumstances in that:
I dont own a vehicle to drive to the city. I have a one year old son to take care of. My wife who owns a vehicle started a new job and works 7 days a week in order to financially support my son as father does not cover any of my child expenses.
Because of this change of circumstances, the order should be modified as follows:
Im requesting pick up on Friday at school and drop off on Monday at school. On Holidays and summer break at a public location in my city.
Father is not following visitation order. don’t take my son on alternate weekend and cancelled july. Expect me to accommodate to his scheduled but insults and get verbally aggressive if things don’t go his way.
Im concern regarding my child mental health. Father talk to my child negatively about his family. Im concern with his discriminatory behavior against my wife and I. My child always comes home crying because father don’t want him to have a relationship with my wife. I have a recording of my son crying and telling me that his father prohibits my son to talk to my wife or punish him physically if he does. My son knows my wife since he was 2 years old and consider her as family.
IT IS NORMAL FOR ONE PARENT TO DO THE PICKUP AND THE OTHER THE DROP OFF. WHY SHE MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT?
You realize it looks really bad for you when you verbally harass her on the phone. I would go to messages to so I had proof of your harassment and anger. You know that no one here is going to be on your side right?
Also there's no such thing as a "normal" family. Family can be a mom and dad, two moms, two dads, a single parent, grandparents, aunts, uncles, siblings, etc who care for kids. So you need to stop telling your kid that him having two moms isn't normal. So you punish your son for talking to his stepmom? You know that is abusive right? What's wrong with you? What's your defect? You always post the same stuff that makes you look like crap.
Every parenting plan is different. My ex's parenting plan said if he lived less than like 145 miles away, he had to pick them up and drop off. If he lived more than 145 miles away, he had to pick up and she had to pick up from his house. Or maybe vice versa - I can't remember anymore but I know there was a mileage limit about who picked up and dropped off. But we always ended up picking up and dropping off even when we lived 4 hours away. She rarely picked them up. Or met us halfway.
SHE isn't making it difficult. YOU are like you ALWAYS do.
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Mother is not following the order. She is supposed to drop off child and I do the pickup. During summer she do both pick up and drop off. But now she expect me to do both and to cover all expenses pay gas and toll.
The order is on alternate weekend and with me for the whole month of July. However because of work Im only taking him with me for few hours and can’t take him on July but asked her to accommodate to my schedule meaning to bring him to the city when I’m off. She is refusing to do one of the pickup and wants me to do both.
I have no other choice than to file for violation which she also did. Requesting me to do both pick up and drop off at school and on summer and holidays at a near location in her city.
We’ve been talking on the phone but after I got upset and yelled at her for not picking up she is doing everything on message.
Also, theres a situation with stepmother where Im making clear to my son that she is not his mother but stepmom. That his little brother is his brother because he is son to his mother and of course teaching him that normal is “mother and father” not “mom and mom”. He is prohibited from talking to her when He is with me and I made it clear he will get time out. Im just trying to be honest with my son.
This is what she filed for:
the entry of the order, there has been a change of circumstances in that:
I dont own a vehicle to drive to the city. I have a one year old son to take care of. My wife who owns a vehicle started a new job and works 7 days a week in order to financially support my son as father does not cover any of my child expenses.
Because of this change of circumstances, the order should be modified as follows:
Im requesting pick up on Friday at school and drop off on Monday at school. On Holidays and summer break at a public location in my city.
Father is not following visitation order. don’t take my son on alternate weekend and cancelled july. Expect me to accommodate to his scheduled but insults and get verbally aggressive if things don’t go his way.
Im concern regarding my child mental health. Father talk to my child negatively about his family. Im concern with his discriminatory behavior against my wife and I. My child always comes home crying because father don’t want him to have a relationship with my wife. I have a recording of my son crying and telling me that his father prohibits my son to talk to my wife or punish him physically if he does. My son knows my wife since he was 2 years old and consider her as family.
IT IS NORMAL FOR ONE PARENT TO DO THE PICKUP AND THE OTHER THE DROP OFF. WHY SHE MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT?
If you were obeying the visitation schedule then you might have an argument that she isn't doing her share of the transportation. However, because you refuse to obey the visitation schedule and want to see your son at your convenience/whim, the judge will likely rip you a new one for expecting mom to do ANY of the transportation.
And when the judge finds out how you are coaching the child about stepmom particularly punishing the child for talking to her, you will really get hit.
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Please note that the order say mom does the drop off to the city. Now she is refusing to do so. Stepmother is who complicates everything. How come my ex was able to do the drop off before and now out of the sudden she is claiming that step mother is the one that owns the car and use it to commute to work? That since I asked I want stepmom out of our parenting decisions she is doing so by not allowing my ex to use her car for transportation? I see my ex driving the car so is hers too.
Mom is claiming she is a full time mother does not work and she cant use public transportation with a one yr old to bring my child to the city. Seriously?
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That since I asked I want stepmom out of our parenting decisions she is doing so by not allowing my ex to use her car for transportation? I see my ex driving the car so is hers too.
You want the best of both worlds and cannot have it. If stepmom owns the car and drives it to work to support them, and you want stepmom to do YOU a favor by allowing your ex to bring your son to you, you best start being nicer about stepmom. Just because one drives a car does NOT mean "it is hers too".
And yes it is tough to bring 2 kids on public transportation.... how 'bout you pony up some $s to buy your ex-wife a car or pay taxi fare both ways? Rather than expecting her or the step mom to do so?
"The order is on alternate weekend and with me for the whole month of July. However because of work Im only taking him with me for few hours and can’t take him on July but asked her to accommodate to my schedule meaning to bring him to the city when I’m off. She is refusing to do one of the pickup and wants me to do both. "
YOU are the one not following the order and you expect her to work around your schedule? You should have considered how you were going to deal with childcare for your son for the whole month of July while you were at work. Or you should be paying her for babysitting your child during time you were supposed to have him and feed him and cloth him, etc. Why must she always work around your schedule? Dude, you live in the USA....parenting is a equal thing.....you deserve no more than what the court orders and even then you don't take that and then complain she won't work with you. I am really surprised the court actually gave you a whole month and as much as you say you want to spend time with your child, you refuse?
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Mother now refuses to talk to me on the phone. She wants everything via message which I refuse as I know is step mom.
How can I have her talk on the phone? Will the judge be able to intervene
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Oh, no. I'm not traveling down that path with you again, my friend. And I doubt if anyone else here will, either.
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You want the best of both worlds and cannot have it. If stepmom owns the car and drives it to work to support them, and you want stepmom to do YOU a favor by allowing your ex to bring your son to you, you best start being nicer about stepmom. Just because one drives a car does NOT mean "it is hers too".
And yes it is tough to bring 2 kids on public transportation.... how 'bout you pony up some $s to buy your ex-wife a car or pay taxi fare both ways? Rather than expecting her or the step mom to do so?
"The order is on alternate weekend and with me for the whole month of July. However because of work Im only taking him with me for few hours and can’t take him on July but asked her to accommodate to my schedule meaning to bring him to the city when I’m off. She is refusing to do one of the pickup and wants me to do both. "
YOU are the one not following the order and you expect her to work around your schedule? You should have considered how you were going to deal with childcare for your son for the whole month of July while you were at work. Or you should be paying her for babysitting your child during time you were supposed to have him and feed him and cloth him, etc. Why must she always work around your schedule? Dude, you live in the USA....parenting is a equal thing.....you deserve no more than what the court orders and even then you don't take that and then complain she won't work with you. I am really surprised the court actually gave you a whole month and as much as you say you want to spend time with your child, you refuse?
I had a whole speech to make but I have done it on so many threads for this guy I just cannot do it again. Suffice to say that he is a male chauvinist pig who is beyond freaked out that his ex-wife left him for another woman but who still believes that the child rearing is the responsibility of the female and that his needs/wishes should be given deference in all things.
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She is the one refusing to coparent. She refuse to give me my child for few hrs because she demands is supposed to be overnight. That she cannot wait around in the city. Im not doing both the drop off and pick up. Is not part of the order
My child lives with stepmom so Im not paying for her rent. Whoever gets into a relationship with a woman is supposed to also feed and take care of that child Is common sense
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She is the one refusing to coparent. She refuse to give me my child for few hrs because she demands is supposed to be overnight. That she cannot wait around in the city. Im not doing both the drop off and pick up. Is not part of the order
It's also not part of the order that you get to pick and choose when to see the child and at what hours and what days. You have scheduled times to see the child and those times are what mom is required to honor.
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My child lives with stepmom so Im not paying for her rent. Whoever gets into a relationship with a woman is supposed to also feed and take care of that child Is common sense
Please, Please, Please say that to the judge in court.:rolleyes:
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I have over two weekend without seeing my kid because custodial mother refuse to drop him to the city. What can I do to solve this? She still claiming she does not have a car and cannot take public transportation with a one yr old. I did take public transportation when I didn’t have a car why can’t she? I told my son about all this and he is being brainwashed saying that I can do the pickup. Mom is putting my son against me.
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I have over two weekend without seeing my kid because custodial mother refuse to drop him to the city. What can I do to solve this? She still claiming she does not have a car and cannot take public transportation with a one yr old. I did take public transportation when I didn’t have a car why can’t she? I told my son about all this and he is being brainwashed saying that I can do the pickup. Mom is putting my son against me.
The court order is for you to have him the entire month of July. When you didn’t pick him up on July 1, you forfeited your visitation. If you are supposed to have him every single day of the month, why should she have to bring him to you when you feel like it? You are purposely disobeying so you have a reason to contact her and harass her. Get over it, she already did.
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I have over two weekend without seeing my kid because custodial mother refuse to drop him to the city. What can I do to solve this? She still claiming she does not have a car and cannot take public transportation with a one yr old. I did take public transportation when I didn’t have a car why can’t she? I told my son about all this and he is being brainwashed saying that I can do the pickup. Mom is putting my son against me.
Sounds like you are trying to do that and failing. You really are a terrible human being.
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How in the world the judge will agree for me to do the pick up and drop off ? Just because mom claim to not have a car when wife does. Plus she can take public transportation with her one yr old. Since when public transportation is a problem
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How in the world the judge will agree for me to do the pick up and drop off ? Just because mom claim to not have a car when wife does. Plus she can take public transportation with her one yr old. Since when public transportation is a problem
You were supposed to have him July 1-31. You refused. She does not have to deliver him to you. Why can’t you take your kid when it’s your time? Get over yourself. You don’t get to change the schedule.
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How in the world the judge will agree for me to do the pick up and drop off ? Just because mom claim to not have a car when wife does. Plus she can take public transportation with her one yr old. Since when public transportation is a problem
AGAIN, she was required to deliver the child to you on July 1st and you were required to return the child to her on July 31st. That is ONE trip to the city for mom. The same applies to your weekends the rest of the year. Mom is NOT required to deliver the child to you at your whim for just a few hours at a time.
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You're always so sure that the judge will see it your way, give you everything you want and tell Mom she has to bend to your will. How's that working out for you so far?
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Mom wants this to be definitive. For me to do the drop off and pick up. She wants pick up and drop off at school and on summer/holiday
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Well, it's about damned time you started doing SOME of the work of co-parenting your child.
You're the only one who thinks Mom's wants are outrageous. Have you still not figured out that the rest of us are all routing for Mom?
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So do you find it ok that on two occasions mom put the same clothes to my child because is the only one I bought for him?
She is giving me her month after I told my son she didn’t want us to be together.
The order clearly say one do the pickup the other the drop off I dont think the judge will agree on changing the order just because she does not have a care and is a Full time mom
She does nothing she does not work so no excused
On another note, I’m appealing the divorce to the supreme court. Although I have visitation I want share custody.
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Yes, well you just let us know how that turns out. Be prepared to back up any claims of success with searchable links that we can confirm independently.
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You didn't follow the visitation schedule. You don't pay child support. You don't buy your child clothing. You don't have a stable home for your child. You abused your ex wife. You stalk your ex wife. You make constant homophobic statements. You try to alienate your child from his mother, stepmother, and sibling. SHE isn't changing the order, you screwed up when you didn't follow it to begin with. Appeal your divorce, try to get shared custody. Keep proving that you are as mentally unstable as everyone already knows you are.
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No one is answering my question. Will the judge agree that I do the pick up and drop off just because she does not have a car and can’t take public transportation because she has a baby? Millions of woman does take transportation with baby qhy cant she? She doesnt work she does nothing.
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"She doesnt work she does nothing."
Wow...just wow..... I double dog dare you to say that in court in front of the judge!
yes, the judge will agree because YOU keep changing the schedule. There is no one that will say it is reasonable for you to demand that she bring the child back and forth to you because her spouse owns a car (that she uses for work to support your ex and your child and their child). Isn't it just as easy for YOU to take the bus to go see your child?
I am just going to say that your child IS going to remember what you have said and as a grown up, he IS going to understand how wacky you are even if he hasn't already. The day will come when he will want nothing to do with you if you aren't careful.
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She agreed to give me her month. But Im talking on when alternate weekend start. She wants me to pick up at school and drop off at school. I have to pay toll for every trip. She is the one decided to move out of state. So the judge should see that.
Unfortunately thats the truth. She is a laZy person that stay home all day while I work for my kid.
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No one is answering my question. Will the judge agree that I do the pick up and drop off just because she does not have a car and can’t take public transportation because she has a baby? Millions of woman does take transportation with baby qhy cant she? She doesnt work she does nothing.
The judge will agree that you do all of the transportation because you are not following the visitation schedule. PERIOD...end of story. You do NOT get to make your own parenting schedule and hold mom to the transportation rules.
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So do you find it ok that on two occasions mom put the same clothes to my child because is the only one I bought for him?
She is giving me her month after I told my son she didn’t want us to be together.
The order clearly say one do the pickup the other the drop off I dont think the judge will agree on changing the order just because she does not have a care and is a Full time mom
She does nothing she does not work so no excused
On another note, I’m appealing the divorce to the supreme court. Although I have visitation I want share custody.
Tell THAT to the judge.
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Tell THAT to the judge.
Didn’t he already try to get shares custody on the grounds of mom being married to a woman and it being immoral and the judge threw it out? It might have been on one of his other profiles that got banned.
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Will the judge agree that I do the pick up and drop off just because she does not have a car and can’t take public transportation because she has a baby?
Yes. It is entirely possible that the judge will agree that you do the pick up and drop off.
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Will the judge agree that I do the pick up and drop off just because she does not have a car and can’t take public transportation because she has a baby?
Yes. It is entirely possible that the judge will agree that you do the pick up and drop off.
Particularly since you only want to have your child for a few hours at a time.
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She agreed to give me her month. But Im talking on when alternate weekend start. She wants me to pick up at school and drop off at school. I have to pay toll for every trip. She is the one decided to move out of state. So the judge should see that.
Unfortunately thats the truth. She is a laZy person that stay home all day while I work for my kid.
You actually believe a stay at home mom does nothing ? Only ignorant, self centered people believe that lie. But that describes you.
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Particularly since you only want to have your child for a few hours at a time.
Im talking about when visitation returns to normal. On alternate weekend
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You actually believe a stay at home mom does nothing ? Only ignorant, self centered people believe that lie. But that describes you.
She has enough free time to take public transportation to give me my son
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Didn’t he already try to get shares custody on the grounds of mom being married to a woman and it being immoral and the judge threw it out? It might have been on one of his other profiles that got banned.
That's not what OP is saying. He told the son that Mom did not want Dad and Son to be together. Now, he's trying to alienate son from Mom.
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She texted me to confirm my visitation for August. But I told her not to expect me to talk to her via text as I know is stepmom. Why does she keep making things so difficult? Why she allow stepmom to be in between our parenting relationship?
We were doing fine talking on the phone but according to her I insult her and get always offensive. There was one day I called her the whole day and she didn’t pickup (I wanted to pickup my son) the moment she picked up, I screamed at her because I was angry and stepmom jumped in. From that day she won’t speak over the phone and say to text her.
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BY YOUR OWN DESCRIPTIONS you are the one who is causing the problems. Not Mom. Not even Stepmom since you have no evidence whatsoever that Stepmom is doing the textings.
That you can't see that is, well, frightening.
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That's not what OP is saying. He told the son that Mom did not want Dad and Son to be together. Now, he's trying to alienate son from Mom.
He also said he is going to try to get shared custody, which he already did on the grounds of mom being married to a woman. He said his son wasn’t being raised in a moral household when two women are married. Then he got mad when he lost that case too.
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She texted me to confirm my visitation for August. But I told her not to expect me to talk to her via text as I know is stepmom. Why does she keep making things so difficult? Why she allow stepmom to be in between our parenting relationship?
We were doing fine talking on the phone but according to her I insult her and get always offensive. There was one day I called her the whole day and she didn’t pickup (I wanted to pickup my son) the moment she picked up, I screamed at her because I was angry and stepmom jumped in. From that day she won’t speak over the phone and say to text her.
I don't talk to people who scream at me, either.
But thank you for an amusing Sunday morning!
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I told her I can’t stay with him in August as I have to woek but to give me visitation on Saturdays. She agree but want me to go do the pickup . I told her Shes supposed to bring him to the city and she keep refusing. How can I fix this