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  • 06-20-2019, 09:06 PM
    NBlodgett
    Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Oklahoma. My husband and I have had guardianship of our 16 month granddaughter since birth. During this time my daughter and her husband have both been court ordered to have psychological evaluations done. Even though they both are already receiving disability for having learning disabilities, ICW director wanted these evaluations done. The evaluations showed that my daughter's IQ dropped from 66 to 52 and her husbands IQ is a 54, and that they both have to be supervised over their own needs. They did a doll simulation and the results showed 1% progress. My daughter lives with her husband and his parents, in which the dad has 16 allegiations of child sexual abuse but they didn't go any further than allegiations. My daughter had her son 2 weeks before their daughter turned 1. They gave the husbands mom guardianship of my grandson so that we wouldn't get guardianship. We are in state court with guardianship of our granddaughter and they are in tribal court with my grandson. My daughter and husbands attorney's are requesting the court to terminate our guardianship and have our granddaughter be with her parents even with DHS stating that my granddaughter does not need to live with her parents because they cannot take care of 2 kids and not sure they can take care of 1. With the evidence we have is there a chance we will lose guardianship and our granddaughter will have to go with her parents who have not supported her or been consistent in visiting her?
  • 06-21-2019, 02:45 AM
    jk
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    since you mentioned tribal court I have to presume somebody is Native American. Would that be a correct assumption? Who is Native American?

    Do the in-laws and due to your daughter living with them, live on tribal grounds?

    who granted you guardianship of your granddaughter? Was it agreed upon by the parents of your granddaughter? Is the tribal court involved now or is the only action in state court?
  • 06-21-2019, 06:48 AM
    budwad
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Oklahoma. My husband and I have had guardianship of our 16 month granddaughter since birth. During this time my daughter and her husband have both been court ordered to have psychological evaluations done. Even though they both are already receiving disability for having learning disabilities, ICW director wanted these evaluations done. The evaluations showed that my daughter's IQ dropped from 66 to 52 and her husbands IQ is a 54, and that they both have to be supervised over their own needs. They did a doll simulation and the results showed 1% progress. My daughter lives with her husband and his parents, in which the dad has 16 allegiations of child sexual abuse but they didn't go any further than allegiations. My daughter had her son 2 weeks before their daughter turned 1. They gave the husbands mom guardianship of my grandson so that we wouldn't get guardianship. We are in state court with guardianship of our granddaughter and they are in tribal court with my grandson. My daughter and husbands attorney's are requesting the court to terminate our guardianship and have our granddaughter be with her parents even with DHS stating that my granddaughter does not need to live with her parents because they cannot take care of 2 kids and not sure they can take care of 1. With the evidence we have is there a chance we will lose guardianship and our granddaughter will have to go with her parents who have not supported her or been consistent in visiting her?

    While the questions asked by the member may satisfy some curiosity, no stranger here (on the forum) would know what your chances are going to be in your case.

    If you don't have one, get an attorney.
  • 06-21-2019, 07:29 AM
    jk
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    Actually, depending on the answers, that stranger might have a very good idea regarding the ops chances.


    Depending on who is the tribal member and what court has jurisdiction and why they have jurisdiction, the outcome can be quite predictable.
  • 06-21-2019, 03:38 PM
    llworking
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
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    While the questions asked by the member may satisfy some curiosity, no stranger here (on the forum) would know what your chances are going to be in your case.

    If you don't have one, get an attorney.

    Bud, you clearly are not aware of the difference between Tribal Court and regular Family Law Court. The questions JK asked were not only necessary, but critical. You have taken this feud way too far.
  • 06-22-2019, 06:50 AM
    budwad
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    I understand what tribal court is. The point being that JK is not a lawyer nor an expert in tribal affairs (although I'm sure he will object) and how the two jurisdiction will play a role in the outcome.

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    Bud, you clearly are not aware of the difference between Tribal Court and regular Family Law Court. The questions JK asked were not only necessary, but critical. You have taken this feud way too far.

    I stick to the law and I am willing to discuss, in a civil manner, those that disagree with what I post. Perhaps you should direct your feud way too far to him. He has crossed the line and is in violation of the Terms of Service of this site and I contacted the Admin about it.

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    You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed).
    His recent posts attacking me are complete fabrications. They are vulgar, slanderous, hatful, and sexually-oriented.
  • 06-22-2019, 07:09 AM
    jk
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    Could you not hijack another thread with your attacks on me, or in this case, railing about me, budwad ? Seriously, you have derailed multiple threads due to your obsession with me. Just stop. If you can’t or don’t want to respond on topic, then don’t post.
  • 06-22-2019, 08:25 AM
    budwad
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    Keep it up. You will be banned for violations of the terms of us.:)

    Anyone with an opened mind can see that it is you that trolls me. I respond to the issue. If that happens to be contrary to what you post, you say I am trolling you.
  • 06-22-2019, 08:50 AM
    jk
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    And your last three posts here were responsive to the issue? Wake up and look in the mirror. You’re trolling me and detouring many threads. Stop it.
  • 06-22-2019, 11:47 AM
    llworking
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    Bud, I have to agree with jk. You have taken this whole feud thing to a level way beyond anything even remotely appropriate. You and jk have both disagreed with other people on these forums but this is just crazy. Please stop.
  • 06-23-2019, 08:14 AM
    budwad
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    So for you it's ok that JK makes disparaging fabrication about my perusing him? Sorry, that is not acceptable.
  • 06-23-2019, 06:47 PM
    qwaspolk69
    Re: Losing Guardianship when Evidence Shows Otherwise
    Sure looks like on this thread you hijacked it and turned it into some weird thing going on between you and another member.
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