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  • 03-15-2019, 10:44 AM
    Dizzyhawk
    Contesting a Speeding Ticket for 21 in 20, School Zone
    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: WA

    School zone ...21 in a 20 ;-(

    What are the odds this will stand if contested?

    The officer didn't provide any paperwork. No agree to appear either written or verbal. He said I'll see something in the mail.
    I don't think he has me on SMD. He got the car in front of me and told me I was "going about the same speed".

    I suspect (hope) I won't see anything in the mail.

    Question: If no paperwork was shown to me, is this really a citation?

    Thanks for you help.
  • 03-15-2019, 11:54 AM
    flyingron
    Re: 21 in 20 School Zone
    It's wishful think that the ticket is not coming. When it comes, file for discovery of the officer's sworn statement and then post it here and the experts will look at it.

    It's not a citation, yet. But that doesn't mean one isn't coming. They've got five business days to file the citation with the court and regular postal delays for you to get it in the mail.
  • 03-15-2019, 02:01 PM
    zeljo
    Re: 21 in 20 School Zone
    Did he take your driver license? Seem to write the number down?
  • 03-15-2019, 05:52 PM
    Guybrush
    Re: 21 in 20 School Zone
    Sounds to me to be someone imposing a police officer.
  • 03-16-2019, 03:15 PM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: 21 in 20 School Zone
    Based on what?
  • 03-16-2019, 07:48 PM
    PTPD22
    Re: 21 in 20 School Zone
    "Imposing a police officer"? Well, I suppose that making a traffic stop could be called an imposition on the cop...but, that's kinda part of the job description. Did you mean impersonating a police officer? If so, what in the OP led you to that conclusion???
  • 03-17-2019, 02:29 PM
    Chuck77
    Re: 21 in 20 School Zone
    Quote:

    Quoting PTPD22
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    "Imposing a police officer"? Well, I suppose that making a traffic stop could be called an imposition on the cop...but, that's kinda part of the job description. Did you mean impersonating a police officer? If so, what in the OP led you to that conclusion???

    ...and getting pulled over for 21mph in a 20mph zone would be more of an imposition on the motorist.
  • 03-17-2019, 07:32 PM
    PTPD22
    Re: 21 in 20 School Zone
    True. But, I wasn't responding to a post referencing "imposing a driver." So, there is that.
  • 03-23-2019, 11:46 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Contesting a Speeding Ticket for 21 in 20, School Zone
    If you are actually ticketed for 21 in a 20 MPH zone, come back with the details.
  • 03-24-2019, 07:10 PM
    Dizzyhawk
    Re: Contesting a Speeding Ticket for 21 in 20, School Zone
    Citation arrived at it states “speeding 1 mph over the limit”

    It states SMD was used although there is no box on the form for serial number.

    I’m convinced he didn’t get me with an SMD based on what he told me at the scene (“I got the guy in front of you doing 33 and you were doing about the same”)

    I’m not sure if that matters though if he has the SMD box checked. What proof do we have that he used or didn’t use a SMD?

    A laser gun doesn’t capture an image with date time and velocity does it? I imagine it’s just the officers word that matters.
  • 03-24-2019, 07:32 PM
    flyingron
    Re: Contesting a Speeding Ticket for 21 in 20, School Zone
    OK, do your discovery request and post back the sworn statement. The ticket alone is not sufficient for us to make a read on it.
  • 03-25-2019, 10:20 AM
    searcher99
    Re: Contesting a Speeding Ticket for 21 in 20, School Zone
    Quote:

    Quoting Dizzyhawk
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    I’m not sure if that matters though if he has the SMD box checked. What proof do we have that he used or didn’t use a SMD?

    What you apparently do not understand is that an SMD ticket is always accompanied by a sworn statement or “affidavit of speed” in which the officer identifies the device and must provide all details necessary to lay foundation. The statement is filed with the court, and to find possible defenses you must request it through discovery.
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