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  • 01-25-2019, 10:21 AM
    OnTheRun9
    Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    My question involves labor and employment law for the state of: Kansas

    How can one find precendents (list) for person who were terminated (not laid-off) from a company and were later re-hire?
  • 01-25-2019, 10:23 AM
    free9man
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    Are you referring to cases where someone sued their former employer, won and as part of that had to be rehired? If so, that would require a nuanced search of cases in Kansas which is outside the scope of this forum. It would require access to legal case websites such as Lexis, as well as possibly any online resources the state of Kansas may provide. Although a search using Google Scholar may find some things.

    If you just mean a general list, it's unlikely such a thing exists outside a particular companies HR department if even there.
  • 01-25-2019, 10:40 AM
    OnTheRun9
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    I do not mean a general l list. I am looking for place to post this question outside of the company blogs.

    to idenitfy person who know of this situation.
  • 01-25-2019, 11:13 AM
    free9man
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    That makes no sense. We are not the Craigslist Missed Connections section.

    You have not identified a situation, given any facts or asked any questions beyond the one that has been answered.
  • 01-25-2019, 11:13 AM
    cbg
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    I don't know that the names of people who were terminated and later rehired are necessarily going to be public record.
  • 01-25-2019, 11:36 AM
    RJR
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    I go along with freeman on this.
  • 01-25-2019, 12:05 PM
    OnTheRun9
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    Let me re-phrase. I agree HR willnot have a list. I'd like a recommendation on where to post this question which will get responses: Has anyone been terminated (no laid-off) from (compnay XYZ) and re-hired?
  • 01-25-2019, 12:11 PM
    free9man
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
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    Let me re-phrase. I agree HR willnot have a list. I'd like a recommendation on where to post this question which will get responses: Has anyone been terminated (no laid-off) from (compnay XYZ) and re-hired?

    There really isn't if you are wanting to specifically avoid boards related to that company. You could try looking for a xyzcompanysucks.com type site to see if they have a forum. The issue there is that those type boards are sometimes monitored by the company that sucks.
  • 01-25-2019, 03:38 PM
    pg1067
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
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    How can one find precendents (list) for person who were terminated (not laid-off) from a company and were later re-hire?

    Not really sure what you mean by this. In the legal world, the term "precedent" typically refers to case decisions published by appellate level courts. Precedent can be found in the books in which cases are published (I believe West's Pacific Reporter is the "official" case reporter for Kansas) and via a variety of online resources, including Google Scholar (although pay services like Lexis and Westlaw are still far superior to any free service). However, looking for precedent requires knowing what the legal issue is, and saying "precendents [sic] . . . for [a] person who [was] terminated . . . and [was] later re-hire[d]" doesn't tell us anything about any legal issue.
  • 01-25-2019, 03:54 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
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    Let me re-phrase. I agree HR willnot have a list. I'd like a recommendation on where to post this question which will get responses: Has anyone been terminated (no laid-off) from (compnay XYZ) and re-hired?

    You might get better comments if you told us what happened to you that gave rise to the question.

    You can ask the question on a thousand websites and get nowhere without providing details.
  • 01-28-2019, 05:59 AM
    flyingron
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    Layoffs (reductions in force) and rehires happen all the time. People have been terminated for cause and rehired. I'm not sure what you're asking. The simple answer is it happens.
  • 01-28-2019, 06:50 AM
    cbg
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    OP, please confirm if this is what you are asking:

    I am looking for the names of individuals whom the court forced (company name) to rehire, after they had been fired/laid off.
  • 02-04-2019, 01:11 PM
    DAWW
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    Most terminations are legal under Employment At Will. For the court to order a rehire, an actual law would have to be violated. Example, ABC corp. buys XYZ corp. and fires all people of a certain race or religion. This violates an actual law called Title IX.

    What is the actual law you think has been violated by your termination?
  • 02-11-2019, 08:28 PM
    OnTheRun6
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    I do not think there was a violation of a law. My question is --where can I find or post the question: who from company XYZ has been hired and re-hired?
  • 02-12-2019, 06:06 AM
    free9man
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
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    I do not think there was a violation of a law. My question is --where can I find or post the question: who from company XYZ has been hired and re-hired?

    Asked and answered already:

    There really isn't if you are wanting to specifically avoid boards related to that company. You could try looking for a xyzcompanysucks.com type site to see if they have a forum. The issue there is that those type boards are sometimes monitored by the company that sucks.
  • 02-12-2019, 09:06 AM
    OnTheRun6
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    What other boards could I look at?

    How can I find a list of people who have been terminated and rehired at a company?
  • 02-12-2019, 09:45 AM
    free9man
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
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    What other boards could I look at?

    Asked and answered already (twice now):

    There really isn't if you are wanting to specifically avoid boards related to that company. You could try looking for a xyzcompanysucks.com type site to see if they have a forum. The issue there is that those type boards are sometimes monitored by the company that sucks.

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    How can I find a list of people who have been terminated and rehired at a company?

    Asked and answered already.

    If you just mean a general list, it's unlikely such a thing exists outside a particular companies HR department if even there.
  • 02-12-2019, 10:05 AM
    pg1067
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
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    I do not think there was a violation of a law. My question is --where can I find or post the question: who from company XYZ has been hired and re-hired?

    So...you don't actually have a legal issue.... Got it.

    You can post whatever you want pretty much wherever you want it, but you're not likely to get an answer to the question on any public board.
  • 02-12-2019, 11:23 AM
    DAWW
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    In my experience, HR departments are wildly conservative. They do not make ANY information available unless forced even when there are no actual laws preventing them from doing so. The answer is that there is no publicly available sources of such information.

    As stated, you can try and find an "I hate XYZ corp" board, which could be interesting, but these are mostly someone's opinion and not necessarily a source of accurate information. I found one such board for a place I used to work. It was entertaining, but very inaccurate. They were spinning conspiracy theories, some of which I knew as a fact were inaccurate. Not that the participants cared. It was more fun to just make stuff up.
  • 02-12-2019, 05:02 PM
    pg1067
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    I am copying the private message you sent me. As per my response, I do not respond substantively to private messages.

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    Here is the more specific question I want to have addressed. Is this ok to post here?

    To pg1067 - . I am wanting to get a recommendation on public boards where this could be posted. My expectation is the set of lawyers on this forum will have looked at those boards while doing prelim research and will have a list of boards to consider. As I have searched for several hours trying to find the boards myself without any success.

    I have no idea where you might post about this non-legal issue. Maybe others have some ideas.
  • 02-12-2019, 05:54 PM
    cbg
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    It is quite unlikely that a list of the type you appear to be looking for appears on ANY board, public or private. Therefore, a list of boards where it MIGHT exist could be as long as your arm, but it would still be a waste of time reviewing them all.
  • 03-20-2019, 08:33 AM
    OnTheRun9
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    I am trying to find out if others have been terminated ( not laid off) and rehired at the same company. Where can I post this question or search for the list of people terminated. I have tired layoff.com. There is nothing posted there. I am urgent for a solution. Quick reply pls.
  • 03-20-2019, 08:37 AM
    llworking
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
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    I am trying to find out if others have been terminated ( not laid off) and rehired at the same company. Where can I post this question or search for the list of people terminated. I have tired layoff.com. There is nothing posted there. I am urgent for a solution. Quick reply pls.

    I doubt that such a list exists. As I am sure that you have already been told. Once a company fires someone, particularly for cause, there is virtually no chance that they would hire them again.
  • 03-20-2019, 10:31 AM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    Quote:

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    I am trying to find out if others have been terminated ( not laid off) and rehired at the same company. Where can I post this question or search for the list of people terminated. I have tired layoff.com. There is nothing posted there. I am urgent for a solution. Quick reply pls.

    There is no such list. You have been told this multiple times in multiple places. You really need to live with the fact that you are not going to work at this place of employment again, ever.
  • 03-20-2019, 10:37 AM
    DAWW
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    Flip the question. Who would maintain such a list at their own expense? Who would force employers to contribute information which could get the employer sued to the list? Until/unless the government actually passes such laws (which they have not) forcing employers to contribute such information and pays for the cost of maintaining such a list, there is no possibility of such a list occurring. Any lists which actually exist are as a result of some law forcing people to provide information and the government paying to maintain such a list.
  • 03-20-2019, 11:44 AM
    cbg
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
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    I am trying to find out if others have been terminated ( not laid off) and rehired at the same company. Where can I post this question or search for the list of people terminated. I have tired layoff.com. There is nothing posted there. I am urgent for a solution. Quick reply pls.

    You can't. No such list exists. Such information is not posted publicly. There is nowhere you can post and no database you can search that will provide you with that information. Your quest is hopeless.

    I hope that this is now (finally) clear to you.
  • 03-20-2019, 11:55 AM
    pg1067
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    Quote:

    Quoting OnTheRun9
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    I am trying to find out if others have been terminated ( not laid off) and rehired at the same company. Where can I post this question or search for the list of people terminated. I have tired layoff.com. There is nothing posted there. I am urgent for a solution. Quick reply pls.

    Without going back through this entire thread, I'm confident that this question has already been answered at least 2-3 times. Why do you keep asking?
  • 03-20-2019, 12:15 PM
    flyingron
    Re: Re-Hire After Fire Precendents
    Same reason he has a cease and desist order against him badgering his former employer. Soon it will be elevated into a restraining order and/or criminal charges if he doesn't stop.
    He's already been told there is no obligation a company rehire or even consider to rehire former employees no matter what the reason. The only times that a rehire is obligated is when there is some contractual obligation (typically a collective bargaining agreement that mandates bringing back furloughed workers) or in the case of those terminated for illegal reasons (race, religion, etc...) and even in the latter rehire is not usually the equitable releif (except for certain government positions). Usually it's a cash settlement.
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