Can You Decline a Liquor Sale to an Adult Who is Present With a Minor

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Quoting budwad

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You have provided no such thing. The seller is not criminally libel as you assert. But I find it amusing how you keep trying to twist the law to bluster your opinion that is clearly not supported in law. Keep digging that hole.

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You’re a jackass. I never said, asserted, inferred, or suggested the op was criminally liable.

You wanted argue with everybody claiming there were no laws making it illegal for a retailer to sell to an adult even if the minor was the ultimate consumer. I provided that.

You’re loony

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Quoting jk

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You’re a jackass.

You’re loony

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I may be a jackass and I may be loony but I respect the law as written by the legislatures of the states and I don't make up interpretations of it to suit my personal believes as you apparently do.

I will leave it at that. But I know you need the last word so go for it. You are in fact a liberal .

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Quoting Mclovin33

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If a sibling relationship is trying to buy alcohol where the brother is 22 and the sister is 12-15, do i deny the sale or is it okay.

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I think what you're saying is that two person (who are presumably unknown to you) came into your store/place of employment. The older person is a male and (presumably) presented you with identification that he is 22. The younger person appears to you to be 12-15 years old (presumably you have no evidence of the younger person's age other than your personal observation).

Based on those facts alone, and assuming no other facts, there would be nothing illegal about selling alcohol to the 22 year old (of course, state laws vary and you didn't identify any state). You are, of course, free to decline the sale if you don't feel comfortable.

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Quoting budwad

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I may be a jackass and I may be loony but I respect the law as written by the legislatures of the states and I don't make up interpretations of it to suit my personal believes as you apparently do.

I will leave it at that. But I know you need the last word so go for it. You are in fact a liberal .

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i didn’t interpret anything. You are the one interpreting my citation to refer to situations I never said it applied to. It applied to your challenge to another poster to show you where a retailer can violate the law even if the sale itself is between the retailer and an adult. I gave you that

Liberal noun

1.
open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.


from Merriam Webster

whst is a liberal.


The answer, as is so often the case with the English language, is “it depends.” 'Liberal' shares a root with 'liberty' and can mean anything from "generous" to "loose" to "broad-minded." Politically, it means "“a person who believes that government should be active in supporting social and political change."



ya, I guess you could say I’m not a closed minded person that refuses to listen to others points of view and actually considers their value.

To me, that’s better than accepting the status quo simply because that’s the way it’s always been done. A liberal can see the possibility of change for the better and actually strive to effect that change. A conservative, if they can even see such possibilities, refuses to accept their might be a better way because it’s a change


Now, if you want to create your own interpretation of what a liberal is, well, let’s see what you just said about using one’s own definitions.

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I respect the law as written by the legislatures of the states and I don't make up interpretations of it to suit my personal believes as you apparently do.

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Mc 33; Joe and I walk into a store, I am 22 joe is 16. Joe waits by the register, I walk up with the booze. Joe states "Boy I'm thirsty". For the sake of legalities, you sell me the beer. This is sting by the boys. Try to assert a defense to that if you get cited.

Now, if eyes and ears are kept open, there should be no worries, especially since most businesses have cameras to back you up.

lets do texas

So am i right to deny the sale of a 22 year old with a teenager although they are brothers? what about that? TX, is it only okay eith A parent?

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Quoting Mclovin33

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lets do texas

So am i right to deny the sale of a 22 year old with a teenager although they are brothers? what about that? TX, is it only okay eith A parent?

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I'm not sure what it means to "do [T]exas," but, as I wrote previously, you are free to decline any sale if you don't feel comfortable with the circumstances, but there's nothing illegal about selling alcohol to a person 21 or older just because he/she is accompanied by someone under 21.

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Quoting pg1067

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I'm not sure what it means to "do [T]exas," but, as I wrote previously, you are free to decline any sale if you don't feel comfortable with the circumstances, but there's nothing illegal about selling alcohol to a person 21 or older just because he/she is accompanied by someone under 21.

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Completely agree. When my brother and I were children, my parents used to take us out on Saturdays for errands (they both worked during the week, and where we lived, Sunday shopping was illegal, so Saturday was The Day) - groceries, library, drug store, liquor store, beer store, department store, hardware store, etc. No one ever told my father/mother they couldn't buy the six-pack of beer/bottle of wine they wanted because they had a couple of kids in tow. And this was in Ontario! (The place with possibly the most restrictive alcohol laws in the world, outside of Saudi Arabia.)

What the store clerk in this scenario does is up to his own judgment, not the law. If he/she suspects that the person purchasing the alcohol is going to give it to the accompanying minor, then he/she should deny the sale. But if he/she has no reason to be suspicious of this, then he/she is probably legally free to allow the sale.

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Quoting eerelations

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Completely agree. When my brother and I were children, my parents used to take us out on Saturdays for errands (they both worked during the week, and where we lived, Sunday shopping was illegal, so Saturday was The Day) - groceries, library, drug store, liquor store, beer store, department store, hardware store, etc. No one ever told my father/mother they couldn't buy the six-pack of beer/bottle of wine they wanted because they had a couple of kids in tow. And this was in Ontario! (The place with possibly the most restrictive alcohol laws in the world, outside of Saudi Arabia.)

What the store clerk in this scenario does is up to his own judgment, not the law. If he/she suspects that the person purchasing the alcohol is going to give it to the accompanying minor, then he/she should deny the sale. But if he/she has no reason to be suspicious of this, then he/she is probably legally free to allow the sale.

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And again, its probably a conversation that needs to be had with the business owner.

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Quoting llworking

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And again, its probably a conversation that needs to be had with the business owner.

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