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  • 07-20-2018, 09:24 AM
    Mtxpro123
    How Does a Child's Participation in Therapy Affect a Custody Case
    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: new york

    Please stop closing my case im at not disrespect here.

    I just find out that my child is attending therapy. Based on the mother because I abandoned him for a year.

    Didnt she say he is happy with step mom and draw her on family picture while im excluded?

    How can this affect me in court
  • 07-20-2018, 09:29 AM
    hr for me
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    ask your paid-for attorney....

    if you abandoned him for a year, that is not going to be good - because it's hard to prove alienation of affection when you were the one that walked away for such a long period of time.
  • 07-20-2018, 09:40 AM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    She also said because the child had demonstrated similar behavior as mine. Talking by myself, anger , impulse behavior. Are you serious?

    I abandoned him because step mom interfered.

    My attorney charge for even calling him. And appreciate everyone assistance here.
  • 07-20-2018, 10:18 AM
    llworking
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    She also said because the child had demonstrated similar behavior as mine. Talking by myself, anger , impulse behavior. Are you serious?

    I abandoned him because step mom interfered.

    My attorney charge for even calling him. And appreciate everyone assistance here.


    No, you abandoned him because you refused to deal with the stepmother to arrange visitation. Your ego was more important to you than your child.

    Your threads keep getting closed because they end up dragging on forever with you never getting what anyone has to say.
  • 07-20-2018, 10:38 AM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Step mother is not the mother. She is step mom. Im supposed to communicate with mother not step mom. And the judged did see this by agreeing that step mom should not be the phone to call but another one. How is the judge saying im right and you guys say otherwise?
  • 07-20-2018, 11:10 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    If we are all wrong, stop asking us. The judge said she can't make phone calls. That's it. She stopped making phone calls. Stop making it more than that. Ask your attorney your questions, that's what you pay for.
  • 07-20-2018, 11:27 AM
    free9man
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    You had an avenue for facilitating contact with your son during that year, you just chose not to use it. It is likely the mom doesn't want to or is afraid to communicate with you given your behavior.
  • 07-20-2018, 12:10 PM
    oldsmom
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    If the mom has sole decision making regarding medical, then there is nothing you can do regarding your son seeing a counselor.

    The fact that you stopped seeing him a year ago is likely to hurt you in court - no matter what the reason was.

    The counselor's notes may be admissible, and will likely corroborate this.

    Yes, your attorney charges you every time you call. They all do. But they are the best people to help answer your questions.

    I recommend writing out your questions in advance, and being careful how you word them to get a thorough and satisfactory answer as quickly as possible. Based on your level of comprehension of English though, I also recommend using an interpreter if you know one. Having a limited grasp of conversational English could cause you to significantly misunderstand your attorney's use of legal terms. Even people born inside the United States get confused sometimes when trying to understand how the legal system works.
  • 07-20-2018, 01:23 PM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Thank you. My last question. Based on the situation what is the best solution and favorable outcome? Thanks
  • 07-20-2018, 01:34 PM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    You need to accept phone calls when they come. Your son has his own phone. Only use that. Don't mention his mom or step mom. Don't try to claim paternity of her baby. Go to the police station for pick ups. Don't ever mention her home again. Pay your child support.
  • 07-20-2018, 01:45 PM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Okay I follow that. Today was our phone call we did camara for almost an hour. It was supposed to be max 10 mins but mom didn’t say anything and allowed me to speak. I dont want her to use this against me. I couldnt hang up the call to my son.
  • 07-20-2018, 01:48 PM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    There is no reason for that to be used against you.
  • 07-21-2018, 08:47 AM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Based on the domestic violence record can she order a restraining order against me? And also based that I want communication directly with her, I want to annule the divorce and requesting paternity of a child shes saying is not mine.

    I have not contact her or stalk her. But based on this?
  • 07-21-2018, 08:54 AM
    cbg
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Dude, the divorce is not going to be "annulled". That is simply not going to happen. You need to make up your mind to the fact that it doesn't matter what you claim or what you ask or what you want, that divorce is here to stay. It is not going away. Even if you manage somehow to make it happen that way in your home country (I do not know the laws in your country so I can't for sure say it won't happen there) the US is still going to recognize the divorce. YOU WILL STILL STILL BE DIVORCED IN THE US NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS IN YOUR COUNTRY. Got that?

    As for paternity of the child that cannot possibly be biologically yours, seems to me that not long ago your ex was offering a paternity test. So, what happened with that?

    And yes, your insistence on direct contact very well might give her a basis for a restraining order.
  • 07-21-2018, 09:37 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Your history of DV is a huge factor. The fact that you keep trying to force all of these issues like trying to reverse the divorce and pretend her kid is yours makes you seem unstable and obsessed. You kept talking about going to her house and seeing inside her house. You need to stop all of that nonsense and just visit your kid when you are allowed, follow all of the rules, and pay your child support.
  • 07-21-2018, 04:53 PM
    qwaspolk69
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: new york

    Please stop closing my case im at not disrespect here.

    I just find out that my child is attending therapy. Based on the mother because I abandoned him for a year.

    Didnt she say he is happy with step mom and draw her on family picture while im excluded?

    How can this affect me in court

    Dude...you have issues. The child is probably happy with the mom and stepmom - but that doesn't mean there aren't other issues because you left and they feel abandoned. You can't say you abandoned him because of the stepmom. Um no. If that's your kid no one should stop you from seeing your kid. That's a poor excuse of why you abandoned your kid and not one that will impress a judge.

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    She also said because the child had demonstrated similar behavior as mine. Talking by myself, anger , impulse behavior. Are you serious?

    I abandoned him because step mom interfered.

    My attorney charge for even calling him. And appreciate everyone assistance here.

    Every lawyer charges for phone calls. I got charged for phone calls and emails. Most of what I paid just to get the custody order modified to take my daughter with me when I have to move was emails and phone calls. That's how it works.
  • 07-22-2018, 05:35 AM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    What my lawyer is saying that stepmom served as an interference between my son & I and mother refused to communicate directly with me. I googled these options and yes these are ground for modification of custody.
  • 07-22-2018, 06:01 AM
    cbg
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    You just keep believing that, pal. You're clearly not believing anything anyone here has to say. Guess you'll find out the hard way.
  • 07-22-2018, 08:32 AM
    llworking
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    What my lawyer is saying that stepmom served as an interference between my son & I and mother refused to communicate directly with me. I googled these options and yes these are ground for modification of custody.

    Except that you lied to your attorney. Stepmother did not prevent visitation between you and your son. You prevented it by refusing to deal with stepmother. You chose not to visit your son unless you could directly talk to mom.
  • 07-22-2018, 12:31 PM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    What my lawyer is saying that stepmom served as an interference between my son & I and mother refused to communicate directly with me. I googled these options and yes these are ground for modification of custody.

    You know what else is grounds for modification? Harassment. Domestic violence. You also stated that step mother STOPPED being involved in phone calls. You have no case when she stopped doing what she was told to stop doing.
  • 07-22-2018, 03:15 PM
    qwaspolk69
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    You know what else is grounds for modification? Harassment. Domestic violence. You also stated that step mother STOPPED being involved in phone calls. You have no case when she stopped doing what she was told to stop doing.

    ^^^^^ This.
  • 07-22-2018, 07:02 PM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    I called my son yesterday at 9:00pm and no one answered. If this is his number why didn’t he pick up? I can talk with my son but again they are refusing
  • 07-22-2018, 10:53 PM
    cbg
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    There could be two hundred and six reasons why he didn't pick up, only one of which is that they are refusing. Maybe he didn't hear the phone.
  • 07-23-2018, 04:03 AM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Im scheduled to talk to him three days during the week. That day was not my day, but still that his phone.
  • 07-23-2018, 04:44 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    Im scheduled to talk to him three days during the week. That day was not my day, but still that his phone.

    You have a schedule. You are purposely going outside of it. You specifically said earlier he goes to bed before 9 pm. You are playing games now. I hope you are dealt with accordingly.
  • 07-23-2018, 05:23 AM
    cbg
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    So? If it wasn't your scheduled time to call him, maybe he didn't have the phone on him. Maybe he didn't hear it. Maybe he was doing something else. He doesn't have to drop everything and answer the phone, outside of the schedule, just because you've decided to play games.
  • 07-23-2018, 05:24 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    My ex used to do this also. He would call after he knew the kids were in bed so they couldn't answer and he could pretend he was being "denied". It didn't go well for him.
  • 07-23-2018, 06:05 AM
    llworking
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    I called my son yesterday at 9:00pm and no one answered. If this is his number why didn’t he pick up? I can talk with my son but again they are refusing

    How about because he was probably in bed and asleep at 9:00PM, and it was totally inappropriate of you to call that late.
  • 07-23-2018, 06:13 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    How about because he was probably in bed and asleep at 9:00PM, and it was totally inappropriate of you to call that late.

    This is directly from his last post that got shut down..
    "Phone calls one time a day at 7:30pm. No cameras (old style phone) Child goes to sleep at 8:00pm." The kid is SIX YEARS OLD... I can't even believe that he is bragging about calling an hour after his bed time and 90 minutes after his scheduled time.
  • 07-23-2018, 06:17 AM
    free9man
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    OP is going so far out of his way to do stupid stuff, I can't decide if he's Spinny stupid or trolling us.
  • 07-23-2018, 06:24 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    OP is going so far out of his way to do stupid stuff, I can't decide if he's Spinny stupid or trolling us.

    I dealt with someone exactly like this. It's a control thing. He will always purposely go just outside the things he's supposed to do and blame the other party for putting their foot down. I had the cops called to my house multiple times for "denying access" when he was purposely doing things to make sure he wouldn't be able to get in contact with the kids.
    He would call after he knew they were in bed, then call the cops. Make appointments when the kids were out of town, then call the cops when they didn't come to the appointment. It's a control game, the judges see through it, and OP is going to lose.
  • 07-23-2018, 06:27 AM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Phone call is mwf at 3:00pm. I understand I called a time out of schedule but is my son and thats his phone. Stepmom bought an Iphone 6. So we did chat on camera. I called him on camera but no one pick up
  • 07-23-2018, 06:30 AM
    llworking
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    Phone call is mwf at 3:00pm. I understand I called a time out of schedule but is my son and thats his phone. Stepmom bought an Iphone 6. So we did chat on camera. I called him on camera but no one pick up

    You called one hour past his bedtime. You made that call just to be a jerk!
  • 07-23-2018, 06:36 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    Phone call is mwf at 3:00pm. I understand I called a time out of schedule but is my son and thats his phone. Stepmom bought an Iphone 6. So we did chat on camera. I called him on camera but no one pick up

    If they had picked up the phone, you would have complained that someone else answered his phone. You have a schedule. Use it and do not attempt contact when you know he's in bed. You are trying to get your ex to answer so you can harass her. I hope they give her a protection order.
  • 07-23-2018, 06:45 AM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Okay so I dont know how to proceed on this. Is like everything I do is against me. I was invited to attend his baseball game. She’s violating the court order as well. Should I not go than? Shes keeping communication via txt message and told me to text the number if I cant find him. She wants no phone calls from me on that day. And I know stepmom will be there.

    Also shes taking me to court second time for childsupport. Arrears is only $300. It is my understanding she cant use this against me on visitation case. But she will to prove that Im not interested on my son but her. Thats why I want to go to the game but I dont want to be in violation of the court.
  • 07-23-2018, 06:54 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    Okay so I dont know how to proceed on this. Is like everything I do is against me. I was invited to attend his baseball game. She’s violating the court order as well. Should I not go than? Shes keeping communication via txt message and told me to text the number if I cant find him. She wants no phone calls from me on that day. And I know stepmom will be there.

    Also shes taking me to court second time for childsupport. Arrears is only $300. It is my understanding she cant use this against me on visitation case. But she will to prove that Im not interested on my son but her. Thats why I want to go to the game but I dont want to be in violation of the court.

    Why are you calling your son when you know he goes to bed at 8? Answer that question.
    If he's in bed, nobody has to answer his phone. If they do, you say they are interfering. You are trying to manipulate the situation.
  • 07-23-2018, 07:08 AM
    free9man
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    How are your arrears only $300 when you stated in other threads that you have been willfully and intentionally not paying it?
  • 07-23-2018, 07:14 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    How are your arrears only $300 when you stated in other threads that you have been willfully and intentionally not paying it?

    He can't keep his lies straight. He clearly just loves getting attention from strangers on the internet. I'm convinced he's not even divorced, there is no ex wife or child, and he is just bored.
  • 07-23-2018, 07:18 AM
    Mtxpro123
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
    Whenever child support goes over $500 my license get suspended and I work in transportation. So I have to pay.

    Should I go to the game activity? I dont want them saying I violated a court order. Any advise?
  • 07-23-2018, 07:20 AM
    jumanji
    Re: Child is Going to Therapy
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    How are your arrears only $300 when you stated in other threads that you have been willfully and intentionally not paying it?

    I'd bet he paid arrears to stay out of jail, but then didn't pay current CS.
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