im an 18 year old high school student. i got caught taking 2 packs of baseball cards from target. they sent me a letter demanding $500. i know i did wrong and am willing to pay the consequences, but $500. any chance they would take a lesser amount? police were not called. if i pay, will that be the end of it. thanks for any advice
Shoplifting at Target
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04-24-2007, 04:06 PMnot thinkingShoplifting at Target
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04-24-2007, 04:25 PMaaronRe: Shoplifting at Target
If you wish, contact them and try to negotiate a lesser payment.
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04-24-2007, 04:27 PMpanther10758Re: Shoplifting at Target
No! This is called "Civil Demand" its legal and the amount is just. I have never heard of any such request for funds being reduce but I have heard many cases that payments were allowed. Be warned if you fail to pay or pay on time you can be sued for even more plus court costs!
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04-24-2007, 09:43 PMredtoy92Re: Shoplifting at Targetyeah it seems harsh but you are lucky if they did not call the cops. And it is really not right we all pay higher prices because people steal.. so life is just like that.Quote:
Quoting not thinking
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04-25-2007, 05:56 PMyeshuaisiamRe: Shoplifting at Target
This is a funny area. They are charging you $500 for what?
Did you get to keep the cards?
If not what did target lose to justify $500?
I've never understood shoplifting. If you "steal" but you don't keep what you stole, then what loss is it to the store? Why do they extort $500 from you for taking probably a couple of bucks worth of cards?
Especially if you don't get to keep the cards.... There were no losses.
I can't stand extortion.
I would send them $500 Mexican Pesos (pesos use the same symbol $ for their currency) if they didn't list U.S. Dollars specifically (500 pesos is 45 bucks). I'd also send it in cash and include a letter that you dropped the cash in a toilet filled with pee first and let it air dry. "just think of what you are holding". The letter is not legal, it's just as if I typed one to you.
If they sue you, it's civil. Remember, if you are sued you have the right to fight the charge. Ask questions like "what was it that caused $500 in losses to the store".
Or call them and say you are broke. You'll send them $50 U.S. That's all you have and if they sue you, you'll just file for bankruptcy.
Corporations shoot themselves in the foot. They'll look for a solutions that grants them the most money. -
04-25-2007, 06:01 PMpanther10758Re: Shoplifting at Target
Now thats foolish advice, if your sued it will be for even more!! Liens on property wage granishment could result do you really want that? By the way your wrong target is recouping losses. Heres just a few
. Wages of Loss Prevention staff
. Monies lost while merchandise was off floor not for sale
. Paperwork involved even when Police are not called
. Cost of CCTV and other devices used to prevent/stop shoplifting
There is just a few the State allows retailers to take Civil Demand because its just and fair. Whats not fair is me and Redtoy paying higher prices for your crimes! -
04-25-2007, 06:45 PMnot thinkingRe: Shoplifting at Target
thanks for the advice. i contacted target and they are willing to take $50 a month for 10 months.
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04-25-2007, 07:11 PMp123Re: Shoplifting at Target
not thinking,
when they took you to the back room, did they make you sign a paper that had the cost of the items you stole, ur name, date, time and stuff like that? or did they just make you sign the paper saying that youll never come to target again? -
04-26-2007, 08:45 AMyeshuaisiamRe: Shoplifting at TargetQuote:
Quoting panther10758
I don't see how this makes sense. If you are Sued, they have to win first. That means IF they decide to proceed, they'll have to hire an attorney.
Better to be a man and stand on two feet and face your accuser than be a coward shivering in a corner.
The shoplifter did not hire loss prevention staff, so that is not his fault.
The shoplifter did not buy CCTV so it's not his fault
The shoplifter didn't demand they file paperwork, so it's not his fault
The shoplifter didn't cause money loss since the Card box probably still had numerous packs for sale.
They only have the right to sue the shoplifter for the damage he caused to the store. It's not the shoplifters job to pay for the decisions that target makes for loss prevention.
The thought that panther says is a paradox. Cops wouldn't be needed if there wasn't crime, so cops should be thankful of the criminals. So should the contractors for jails, judges, and lawyers. Everybody should love em! Without crime, the economy would collapse! Crime keeps CCTV cameras in business, insurance companies, and power hungry security guards get their paycheck because of crime.
"Loss" is only superficial and not looking at the big picture. Direct loss to target - nothing as they recovered their merchandise. Otherwise, 4 bucks perhaps?
Being sued means that you are up for civil trial. You have a right to voice your side of it. You have to ask yourself, what did TARGET lose as a DIRECT result of your shoplifting? DIRECT. You took the cards. They recovered them. No loss directly as a result of you. -
04-26-2007, 09:02 AMcissycicleRe: Shoplifting at TargetThe threat of bankruptcy over a $500 debt would not be wize. Sending foreign currency would not be wize. Telling them you're broke would not be wize. Inviting a civil suit would not be wize. Detailing your toileting habits would not be wize.Quote:
Quoting yeshuaisiam
Listening to the idiotic, moronic, half assed, borderline maniacal advice found online would be far less than wize, however stealing 2 packs of baseball cards from Target wouldn't be wize, but you did it. Guess the unwize advice given by the idiotic, moronic, half assed, borderline maniacal yeshuaisiam would appear to be wize. -
04-26-2007, 10:54 AMbam!Re: Shoplifting at TargetYou are a moron. Listen to yourself and you will see just how stupid you are. In the United States of America, Mexican Pesos are NOT legal tender. They cannot be used to pay a debt, be it public or private. The the civil demand vendor that Target uses would just "return to sender". People have sent Target rolex watches and diamond earrings trying to pay off the civil demand and they are all handled the same.Quote:
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Also, the letter specifically states $XXX USD.
Now off to respond to the garbage you spewed later in this thread. -
04-26-2007, 11:03 AMbam!Re: Shoplifting at TargetTarget has plenty of attornies as does the Civil Demand Vendor. Good luck with that fight.Quote:
Quoting yeshuaisiam
So since the rack still had one shirt on it and you stole the other two, Target isn't out money since they probably had more in the back? If you successfully remove merchandise from a store, you caused a money loss. What happens if someone wanted to purchase three card packs and there was only one? Loss. Think man, think.Quote:
The shoplifter didn't cause money loss since the Card box probably still had numerous packs for sale.
Actually, under the law, the company has the "RIGHT" to collect on the maximum allowed by state law. So if the state says "no less than $50 USD, but no more than $350 USD", then BAM! they can collect a no less than $50 and no more than $350 no matter the amount of the merchandise you removed from the store. On the shoplifters job, its not the customers job to pay higher prices because your selfish, greedy ass decided to steal.Quote:
They only have the right to sue the shoplifter for the damage he caused to the store. It's not the shoplifters job to pay for the decisions that target makes for loss prevention.
Direct loss to Target? Have you ever gone to a store and found the item you wanted to purchase was not in stock? How did you feel? Things aren't as DIRECT as you would like them to be.Quote:
"Loss" is only superficial and not looking at the big picture. Direct loss to target - nothing as they recovered their merchandise. Otherwise, 4 bucks perhaps?
The Civil Demand Vendor will ruin your credit, then sue you for the amount plus costs and they will win. Why would they go through the trouble of suing you if they weren't going to win or the case wasn't airtight? You, kind sir, are a moron and need to take a look at the law a little better before you start spouting out filth on a topic you know nothing about.Quote:
Being sued means that you are up for civil trial. You have a right to voice your side of it.
And FYI, I am very familiar with Target's P&P regarding shoplift apprehensions.