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  • 04-25-2018, 09:12 PM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: NSA Surveillance is Unethical and Unconstitutional
    I did not mean the government should not go through proper legal channels to obtain private information. I also did not mean things like attorney client privilege should not be protected.

    Benjamin Franklin did not live in 2001 or 2018. You have no way of knowing what he would say if he were living now.

    The government is going out of their way not to step on the rights of mass shooters. Before they go on a rampage. This is costing innocent children and adults their lives. It is easy for some to say I want my privacy. No matter how many innocent citizens have to pay the price for it.
  • 04-26-2018, 03:55 PM
    Endofdays
    Re: NSA Surveillance is Unethical and Unconstitutional
    Yes -- the government routinely spies on all citizens without a court order. It's a surveillance state. The right to privacy, is, however, covered under the 4th and 14th amendment which protect us from excessive or unreasonable intrusions upon our private matters.

    If they abuse their ability to surveil (if it reaches and unreasonable level) you have cause for a claim for tort invasion of privacy, and violation of your fourth and fourteenth amendment rights.

    Keep in mind it's not the NSA that may be spying on you. It could also be the FBI. The US government is the US government, and when you file a claim for relief under the federal tort claims act, it is always the United State as the defendant, regardless of whichever agency violated your rights.

    The NSA, the CIA, the FBI, and local law enforcement, including the community oriented police snitching system, form a single surveillance apparatus, and all together, these bodies form a unified surveillance apparatus that grants the government full information about everything that happens in society. Virtually no criminal goes undetected, and if a criminal gets away with a crime it's because the government lets them.

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    If a person is doing nothing wrong. They have nothing to fear.

    I will gladly give up my privacy to keep my adult children, grandchildren and others safe. It is the time we live in.

    This is erroneous. The police engage in misconduct all the time. What the government does is practice mass extortion. They take that information, then hand it to womens' bosses (usually corrupt people the government has in their back pocket) and let the boss blackmail them for blowjobs with it.

    The police falsify evidence to neutralize crime victims, and stretch information further than it can go and use it to claim reasonable suspicion to engage in entrapment based on ulterior motives. The idea that nothing to hide keeps you safe is a myth. Nothing to hide does not protect one from willful misconduct. The government is fundamentally corrupt.

    I have heard of women getting blackmail raped because someone, acting on web surveillance intel, told them watching the Justin Bieber video (which has billions of views) a whole bunch of times made them a suspected pedophile.

    Unfortunately, what William Wallace was fighting in the movie Braveheart (sharing one's wife with an English lord) is common place in american society, and the police, acting from a primitive mindset, think women putting out is part of the job description and retaliate against women who refuse to do so.
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