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  • 04-06-2018, 11:49 AM
    Endofdays
    How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    My question involves malpractice in the state of: Ohio

    I recently reported my family for domestic violence. The police did nothing about the situation and pretty much told me I had no rights because it was my father’s property. Several months later, the police showed up with a court order (obtained through an affidavit filed by my father) to have me involuntarily committed to a psychiatric institution where I was falsely diagnosed with “paranoid schizophrenia.”

    The discharge papers read: “PT paranoid, delusional: states parents are kidnapping him and violating his right to work” and “client was referred… for reported persecutory delusions and paranoia… he believed family kidnapped him.”

    At the hospital I was held for 22 days and forced to ingest harmful anti-psychotic drugs.

    I recently sent an email to the DOJ with voice recordings of my older brother beating me down, threatening me, and forcibly transporting and restraining me in violation of abduction and kidnapping law. The recordings prove that I am not delusional, that I was really being victimized.

    This hospital trashed my reputation to discredit me as a victim. What can be done about this? I want to sue and have the diagnosis overturned…
  • 04-06-2018, 01:03 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    You can exercise your rights under HIPAA to seek correction of an alleged error, and to have the records include a statement that disagrees with any denial. The fact that you believe the diagnosis is incorrect, however, does not mean that it was in fact incorrect, nor does it mean that it was not an appropriate diagnosis for your treatment team to make given your symptoms at the time of diagnosis.
  • 04-06-2018, 03:06 PM
    Endofdays
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
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    You can exercise your rights under HIPAA to seek correction of an alleged error, and to have the records include a statement that disagrees with any denial. The fact that you believe the diagnosis is incorrect, however, does not mean that it was in fact incorrect, nor does it mean that it was not an appropriate diagnosis for your treatment team to make given your symptoms at the time of diagnosis.

    Thank you for your reply. I can prove they knowingly did wrong. The proof is clear as day. This evidence is so clear and convincing its like the shrink sitting there watching me get clobbered by the offender and having him gaslight me outright accusing me of being paranoid and delusional, just like my mother and father did as they witnessed me being assaulted.

    Honestly, the shrink that diagnosed me is a moron. If you want to rule some one as delusional you have to first prove the belief is false, unless it is so fantastical as to be patently false on its surface (e.g., 'aliens have abducted me'). Mere domestic violence allegations are not extraordinary or fantastical, and therefore would need to first be proven false first by a fair and impartial arbitrator before a case for delusion could be made. The shrinks delusional. He needs to be thrown in an asylum.

    The shrink was working for the police, because my older brother the domestic violence offender were also working for the police (and I clearly prove these allegations as well). This was a retaliation situation. Through the apparent "community policing program" the animals at the local police station 'stretched their ties to the community' and recruited my family into campaign to take a billy club to a victim of major institutional sexual harassment and sexual abuse. I'm working on my letters to congress...
  • 04-06-2018, 03:17 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    If you believe that you can prove a false diagnosis and, as a consequence, that you were wrongly hospitalized, take your medical records to a medical malpractice lawyer in your state for review.
  • 04-06-2018, 03:50 PM
    Endofdays
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
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    If you believe that you can prove a false diagnosis and, as a consequence, that you were wrongly hospitalized, take your medical records to a medical malpractice lawyer in your state for review.

    Great-- thanks. Yes I believe I could sue for defamation, assault and battery, false imprisonment, intimidation, IIED, conversion, fraud, trafficking in persons (complicity), and more. I also have cause for punitive damages. I expect these criminals to pay up.
  • 04-06-2018, 04:03 PM
    Mark47n
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    You know, I've been institutionalized. I was there from months. I recall that all patients who had the more profound mental illnesses such as paranoid schizophrenia, borderline personality disorders and the like all said similar things: They were sane and could prove that the doctor was lying and that they were the victim of some variety of conspiracy. Oddly, prisons are full of inmates who decry their innocence.

    The falsity of the you claims of domestic violence would not have to proven before an impartial party, your claims can be completely ignored if you appear to not be competent, which you may not. I can't tell simply by your writing but like so many others with an axe to grind it's very self-serving.

    You claim that the police were retaliating against you because they are in cahoots with your brother. Alas, that is a claim that you'll have to prove and it's a tough one. Sitting where I am, I'd be disinclined to buy this claim because my good friend Occam tells me that the simplest solution to a problem is usually the correct one. What you're telling me is that a large number of people (the price department, as a whole, and the community policing program) are prosecuting a grudge against you and doing so secretly or that the scenario that you're explaining is shall we say, far fetched and improbable? I'm going with the latter.
  • 04-06-2018, 04:19 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    Your age?
  • 04-06-2018, 09:12 PM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    Be prepared for no attorney to take the case. Are you currently seeing a psychiatrist ? If not, you need to start seeing one regularly.
  • 04-07-2018, 12:22 AM
    Endofdays
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    My age is 33.

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    Be prepared for no attorney to take the case. Are you currently seeing a psychiatrist ? If not, you need to start seeing one regularly.

    Mercy&Grace: Why would no attorney take the case? It seems cut and dry to me. Any shrink that thinks the abuse is a delusion when I have video and audio recordings of me getting clobbered by this guy and being threatened over and over again is obviously out of his gourd?

    Why would I need to see a shrink regularly either? What factual basis do you have for alleging me to be of unsound mind? My allegation is that I was falsely diagnosed so that can't count, and you need to consider the possibility that my allegations is true. Remember you are the one who is not citing facts to support your claims -- I am.

    Remember that when a complaint is submitted to the courts, all allegations must be presumed true, and so long as sufficient factual matter is presented in support of the allegations the case can proceed to discovery and trial. Factual matter has been presented here. I told you in concrete detail that I sent these recordings to the DOJ. I also sent the paper work citing the basis for the allegations, which were the shrinks allegations that my abuse was all a delusion. You can probably assume I'm telling the truth. From the facts presented this is an obvious case of misconduct. Sorry, but we can't snap our fingers, and call in a corrupt shrink to wave a magic wand that let's us get away with murder...
  • 04-07-2018, 06:08 AM
    BooRennie
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    It's your perceptions that are being called into question. Not your facts.
  • 04-07-2018, 07:06 AM
    Endofdays
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
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    It's your perceptions that are being called into question. Not your facts.

    Well, what's wrong with my perceptions? Be specific...
  • 04-07-2018, 09:04 AM
    Mark47n
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    I believe I spelled out the possible issues with your perceptions in my last post.

    A psychiatric diagnosis isn't a court case. They tend to be made by highly educated and serious people after observations of the subject. One doctor making one considered diagnosis and then a different doctor making a different diagnosis under different conditions, a diagnosis that a subject is actively attempting to manipulate, doesn't invalidate the original diagnosis. Because you perceive the facts a different way than others, for instance being denied a job because you're unqualified may be perceived by you as being denied due to some discriminatory reason, your interpretations may not be accurate or even realistic. Paranoid schizophrenic's run afoul of this all the time. That and my pal Occam.

    If you really want to discredit the diagnosis (you cannot overturn it, not in the way you want) then you will need to see a different accredited psychiatrist and counselor regularly and they will develop, possibly, a different diagnosis.

    It's highly unlikely that a law enforcement body decided to make you the target of a conspiracy as it would take the active participation of hundreds of people and, eventually, of multiple agencies as the conspiracy unfolds. The conspirators would have to influence the courts, the hospitals and individual doctors, orderlies, nurses, etc...or you've got more issues than National Geographic. Which is more likely? Occam, while sharpening his Razor, says that it's gotta be the latter. The other possibility requires too many moving parts and is too complicated.
  • 04-07-2018, 02:06 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
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    Well, what's wrong with my perceptions? Be specific...

    Perceptions in this forum are irrelevant. Whether people here think you're completely objective or completely delusional, it won't change the outcome of a malpractice lawyer's review of your case.
  • 04-07-2018, 03:15 PM
    Endofdays
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
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    Perceptions in this forum are irrelevant. Whether people here think you're completely objective or completely delusional, it won't change the outcome of a malpractice lawyer's review of your case.

    I'm not sure I see what your point is. What do you think the outcome will be?
  • 04-07-2018, 03:50 PM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    Doctors determine a diagnosis based on what they get from a patient. What a patient says, demeanor, behavior, etc.

    Even if a doctor makes a error in diagnosing a patient. That does not mean the error rises to the level of medical malpractice.
  • 04-07-2018, 06:59 PM
    Endofdays
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
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    Doctors determine a diagnosis based on what they get from a patient. What a patient says, demeanor, behavior, etc.

    Even if a doctor makes a error in diagnosing a patient. That does not mean the error rises to the level of medical malpractice.

    The doctor made no decision based on my behavior. He based the diagnosis on the false allegations contained in an affidavit filed by a false accuser. I was involuntarily committed.

    My behavior and demeanor was normal given the circumstances. I presented clear statements of my victimization, cited detailed facts, and informed them of the evidence I had proving my allegations. Had the shrink listened to the victim rather than the perpetrator (and the police who brought me ordered the domestic abuse, which is an obvious conflict of interest) he would have spared himself his career. Now his career is going to be destroyed.

    Did you know that twin studies suggest schizophrenia is approximately 80 percent genetic? Schizophrenia cannot be diagnosed in the absence of evidence of a genetic disposition. And since these apparent 'delusions' emerged when I was 32 years old, with a clear basis in REALITY for the belief that I was being domestically abused then there is no facts to suggest I was genetically predisposed to the disorder. I proved the diagnosis false with irrefutable evidence supporting my domestic violence allegations.

    Schizophrenia is not a diagnosis that we throw around lightly, and schizophrenics are reported to die some 15 years sooner than non-schizophrenics, and MEDICATIONS prescribed for the condition are thought to be one mechanism accounting for this effect. This man tried to murder me with a slow acting lethal injection.

    I made it clear to them that they had no basis for holding me, and that I was involuntarily committed based on false testimony. They HAVE to at least make some attempt to ascertain the truth or falsity of my allegations before diagnosing me if they are acting in good faith. They did not. They abused me and treated me like everything I said was false. I proved them wrong with clear and convincing evidence. They're going down like animals.

    This absolutely rises to the level of malpractice.
  • 04-07-2018, 07:06 PM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    Doctors do not investigate allegations certain patients might make. That is not their job.
  • 04-08-2018, 03:00 AM
    Endofdays
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
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    Doctors do not investigate allegations certain patients might make. That is not their job.

    Are you working for this animal or something? Unfortunately, he does have to make some attempt to ascertain the truth or falsity of an allegations before branding it delusion. He can't just presume everything that comes out of someone's mouth to be false. Is there something about being a doctor that frees them from the expectations to which any ordinary citizen can be held? If someone says, 'I need help, I'm being victimized,' then norms would dictate that the witness to that statement should intervene to some extent. The doctor knew the police were calling him in to heap as much stigma on me as he could, and that is plainly evident in his diagnostic decision making. Other facts about the situation, which I will not cite here for privacy concerns, suggest that they indicated through innuendo that they were retaliating against me to discredit me as a sexual harassment victim. Trust me, this guy did major wrong.

    And as for you statement: "Doctors do not investigate allegations certain patients might make. That is not their job." You are erroneously assuming that psychiatry is a legitimate medical science when this is highly open to dispute. Moral and political concerns are intimately entwined in psychiatric diagnostic practice. Psychiatry is pseudo-scientific, there is no evidence that suggests each disorder in the DSM taxonomy is a discrete entity with a unique physiological substrate that distinguishes it from any other disorder. The normative nature of diagnostic co-morbidity suggests that the disorders are really a set of social classifications created based on a false medical ideological thought process that are being used to fraudulently misrepresent psychological disorders as medical entities that can be used to justify the billing of insurance companies for their purported treatment. The diagnostic process is further subjective. Consider the fact that before one can be involuntarily committed it must be demonstrated that the person poses a threat of harm to self or others. This was not met in my case -- I PROVED clearly and convincingly that I was the one being harmed -- that the police and everyone else were harming ME! Yet I'm the one being stigmatized. This decision, that the person is a threat of harm to self or society is a legal and judicial process, and at the hospital a due process hearing is held in a quasi attempt to justify whether or not social STIGMATIZATION of that person is legally justified -- remember that the 14th amendment says that no person can be deprived of "life, liberty, property" without due process of law. Psychiatric diagnosis, being tacitly acknowledged by these practices as a largely SOCIAL or MORAL process -- not medical -- represents deprivations of liberty and is subject to the due process requirement of the 14th amendment.

    Not fooling anyone here by espousing medical ideology. You obviously fundamentally misunderstand the nature of psychological disorder. Calling a psychiatrist a doctor is a joke, especially this one...
  • 04-08-2018, 05:17 AM
    cbg
    Re: How to Overturn False Psychiatric Diagnosis
    Then call a medical malpractice lawyer and have your records reviewed.
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