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  • 03-23-2018, 09:51 AM
    Senclar
    Re: Landlord May Have Discarded Property Left by a Tenant With Consent
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    I’m generally not a betting man but I would seriously consider betting on you walking away without anything.

    And create your own prices? What a joke. You have to prove the amount you are claiming is a valid value. Advertised prices don’t mean a thing. Actuall selling prices are what matters.


    http://www.lsnjlaw.org/Housing/Landl...VQVmjZF.mailto
  • 03-23-2018, 09:55 AM
    PayrolGuy
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    You can claim whatever value you want to. But if you don't have proof of that value (and things from ebay that haven't actually sold are not proof) the judge is going to ask the defendant what he thought they were worth and he is going to say, "Nothing, they were old clothes in a bag." And assuming you can prove he even had any responsibility to keep them for you, you might get an award of $1.00.
  • 03-23-2018, 09:57 AM
    Senclar
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    You have told us that you left the items at the end of your tenancy as security on your debt -- you have told us that you had an express agreement with the landlord to hold the property until you paid your overdue rent. That makes this a bailment case, not a case of a landlord's dealing with abandoned property at the end of the lease. But in any event, an action brought under NJSA 2A:18-72, et seq, is governed by a two year statute of limitations, N.J.S.A. 2A:14-2. If you're going to choose between causes of action, you had best pick one that isn't time-barred.

    Now we’re talking! I’ll further look into it.
  • 03-23-2018, 11:05 AM
    cbg
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    I have a question.

    You said you had an agreement with the landlord. How long was that agreement for?
  • 03-23-2018, 12:51 PM
    Senclar
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    I have a question.

    You said you had an agreement with the landlord. How long was that agreement for?

    We never put a time stamp on it. As seeing that we knew each other for some time and with the situation I was going through she was looking me out. Like I’ve done for her for the 5 years living there.
  • 03-23-2018, 02:06 PM
    jk
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    http://www.lsnjlaw.org/Housing/Landl...VQVmjZF.mailto

    You’re really not listening to anybody, are you?
  • 03-23-2018, 04:24 PM
    L-1
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    You’re really not listening to anybody, are you?

    I think OP is operating on the principle of, he who argues longest prevails.
  • 03-23-2018, 04:47 PM
    cbg
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    So you just assumed that you could leave everything there indefinitely and that all you needed to do occasionally mention it to her son on Facebook? And she was to take responsibility for all this "valuable" stuff that you care terribly about? And that you had no responsibility to confirm with her, years after the fact, that it was still convenient for her to take this responsibility?
  • 03-23-2018, 05:09 PM
    Senclar
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    So you just assumed that you could leave everything there indefinitely and that all you needed to do occasionally mention it to her son on Facebook? And she was to take responsibility for all this "valuable" stuff that you care terribly about? And that you had no responsibility to confirm with her, years after the fact, that it was still convenient for her to take this responsibility?

    Basically yeah, throughout the course of the years a lot of stuff weighed down on me, my father suffered an acute renal failure I was a match for kidney donation. There after 9 month it failed. I still wasn’t on my feet and when I was he was on workers comp, and I took on the responsibility of holding down the fort. Til this day. The communication I kept entails all these situations. What you are and including everyone on this thread is not understanding is that there was a friendship i had along with the landlord and family. A friendship that occurred way before I ever lived there. I know every nook and cranny of that family. And even if I were to leave stuff there and expect it to be there no matter what, and expected to be communicated with no matter what than yes. I expected it to still be there!! I could’ve and now I think I should’ve been a crook, a thug and just took my stuff out without notice and left in her in the wind minus $1500 in rent, but based on our history I didn’t wanna be that guy. My dad once upon a time owned a home he rented out to tenants, my dad befriended one of the tenants and that tenants got arrested for whatever charges and spent some time in jail. My dad took all his belongings and held it in our home garage until the man was released. So did I expect the same with someone that I have been friends for many years. I don’t see why not.

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    You’re really not listening to anybody, are you?

    Stop talking to me like a prosecutor how bout dat!?
  • 03-23-2018, 06:53 PM
    jk
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    Basically yeah, throughout the course of the years a lot of stuff weighed down on me, my father suffered an acute renal failure I was a match for kidney donation. There after 9 month it failed. I still wasn’t on my feet and when I was he was on workers comp, and I took on the responsibility of holding down the fort. Til this day. The communication I kept entails all these situations. What you are and including everyone on this thread is not understanding is that there was a friendship i had along with the landlord and family. A friendship that occurred way before I ever lived there. I know every nook and cranny of that family. And even if I were to leave stuff there and expect it to be there no matter what, and expected to be communicated with no matter what than yes. I expected it to still be there!! I could’ve and now I think I should’ve been a crook, a thug and just took my stuff out without notice and left in her in the wind minus $1500 in rent, but based on our history I didn’t wanna be that guy. My dad once upon a time owned a home he rented out to tenants, my dad befriended one of the tenants and that tenants got arrested for whatever charges and spent some time in jail. My dad took all his belongings and held it in our home garage until the man was released. So did I expect the same with someone that I have been friends for many years. I don’t see why not.



    Stop talking to me like a prosecutor how bout dat!?

    You did run out on the $1500. You are that guy.


    Friends don’t run out on rent for 5 years and leave a boatload or crap behind for 5’years (with no compensation to the woman) and get upset to hear its been dumped in the trash.
  • 03-23-2018, 10:10 PM
    Senclar
    Re: Landlord May Have Discarded Property Left by a Tenant With Consent
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    You have told us that you left the items at the end of your tenancy as security on your debt -- you have told us that you had an express agreement with the landlord to hold the property until you paid your overdue rent. That makes this a bailment case, not a case of a landlord's dealing with abandoned property at the end of the lease. But in any event, an action brought under NJSA 2A:18-72, et seq, is governed by a two year statute of limitations, N.J.S.A. 2A:14-2. If you're going to choose between causes of action, you had best pick one that isn't time-barred.

    So check this out. I found out the home was taken by the bank. If i found out when was this and you say based on statute of limitations is within two years according to NJSA 2A:14-2 would I have I something if I believed my stuff was put away within the first two years of my the agreement despite its been almost 4 years? It wasnt recently thrown out but again I heard the home was foreclosed. And it wasn’t recently.
  • 03-24-2018, 03:51 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
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    The statute of limitations for the tenancy started to run when you vacated; but you have told us that the statute does not apply because you have told us that you entered into a post-tenancy storage agreement with the landlord. But again, even if it did apply, the limitations period ran years ago.
  • 03-24-2018, 04:35 AM
    jk
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    You know what **** you. I told you to be gone!


    .

    you’re a funny guy. I like the “be gone” like it means something.

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    If i found out when was this and you say based on statute of limitations is within two years according to NJSA 2A:14-2 would I have I something if I believed my stuff was put away within the first two years of my the agre

    yes you would. You would have proof the statute of limitations has probably run. Probably not what you were looking for but yes, it’s something.
  • 03-24-2018, 06:40 AM
    cbg
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    I like how everything revolves around his convenience and his needs and not at all at how his actions or inactions affect anyone else.
  • 03-24-2018, 07:33 AM
    Senclar
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    I like how everything revolves around his convenience and his needs and not at all at how his actions or inactions affect anyone else.

    I like how you like that.

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    Funny how people think they can order others off "their" threads.

    I’m glad you think it’s funny. So glad. Elated.

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    The statute of limitations for the tenancy started to run when you vacated; but you have told us that the statute does not apply because you have told us that you entered into a post-tenancy storage agreement with the landlord. But again, even if it did apply, the limitations period ran years ago.

    So what would apply at this or that point in your opinion? Yes it has been almost four years, but I actually do not know when my stuff were put away. For all I know it could have been one or two years later.
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