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  • 03-14-2018, 06:24 AM
    ckamick
    Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Illinois

    Facts
    19 yr old twins,one still at home and going to school, one left the house more than a year ago.
    Custodial parent charging rent to the one still at home, won't pay the others medical bills.
    Also Custodial Parent had children in daycare until theit 18th birthday
    (Children were not in day care for 6 plus years @50 a week)
    Custodial parent still collecting support
    Other siblings moved out after their 18th birthday aND Custodial parent never notified me or the court.I found out ....

    I call it fraud, then again this is Illinois

    Recourse?
  • 03-14-2018, 06:34 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Parents can charge rent to their children, and doing so can be an incentive for an adult child to move out.

    You have not shared with us what the custody order says about payment of medical bills or how they are to be divided between you and your ex-. If you are paying the medical bills and covering your ex-'s share, you can bring a motion to seek reimbursement for the portion that your ex- was required to pay under the custody order.

    I somehow doubt that you were paying daycare expenses when the children were in high school. If you did not petition to modify a daycare provision when the children stopped using daycare, such that the support order continues to require a daycare payment, you should petition to modify the order and eliminate that payment. If you did so when the kids reached the age of 18, any issue with prior payments for daycare should have been addressed at that time.

    If one of the children is now living independently and is self-supporting, and you have not already done so, you can consider bringing a motion to terminate your obligation to pay support for that child. Ideally you will maintain a sufficient relationship with your children such that you know where they're living. If the court order requires mom to inform you of such a change in the child's living arrangement and did not do so, the child has been self-supporting since moving out, and the issue of support for that child has not yet been addressed by the court, you can try to use that provision to convince a court to allow a retroactive modification dating back to when the child moved out.
  • 03-14-2018, 07:26 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting ckamick
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    Also Custodial Parent had children in daycare until their 18th birthday

    I'm questioning a legitimate daycare center allowing anyone over the age of 12 to attend.
  • 03-14-2018, 07:43 AM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Possible but the OP wrote, "Also Custodial Parent had children in daycare until theit 18th birthday."
  • 03-14-2018, 07:56 AM
    jumanji
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Doesn't child support in IL end at 18?

    What does the order state in terms of an end date for support?

    ETA: regarding the child(ren) in daycare until 18 - is there a disability involved?
  • 03-14-2018, 11:13 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    I suspect that the provision was put in place when the children were young with no provision for automatic termination, and nobody moved to modify the support order until one or both of the children reached the age of 18.
  • 03-14-2018, 11:30 AM
    cbg
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    For some reason I am reminded of a thread a few years back, where a mother was horribly offended by the suggestion that it was really not unreasonable of Dad to object to paying child support for a 23 year old who was taking a Master's program in architecture. The question was asked, at what point would you think it reasonable for an adult child to begin supporting him or herself? I don't recall what state that thread was from, but I'm seeing a parallel here. If this is the NCP posting, why didn't you apply for modification already?

    But by the same token, why shouldn't at least the adult child who is living independently be responsible for his own medical bills?
  • 03-14-2018, 01:36 PM
    BooRennie
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting PMMH
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    I'm questioning a legitimate daycare center allowing anyone over the age of 12 to attend.

    Some I know of allow children up to the age of 13 attend after school care. But since you know everything.... :encouragement:
  • 03-14-2018, 01:45 PM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    After school care and day care aren't generally the same thing. And the OP said until their 18th birthday.
  • 03-14-2018, 04:03 PM
    Shadowbunny
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    OP said "Children were not in day care for 6 plus years @50 a week".

    So I assume he meant that while he was paying for child care at $50 per week (which would be quite the bargain for 2 kids), that the children stopped going at age 12.
  • 03-14-2018, 04:11 PM
    BooRennie
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting PayrolGuy
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    After school care and day care aren't generally the same thing. And the OP said until their 18th birthday.

    They go to daycare in the summer, too. Geez, do you folks HAVE to have everything spelled out for you?
  • 03-14-2018, 07:12 PM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting ckamick
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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Illinois

    Facts
    19 yr old twins,one still at home and going to school, one left the house more than a year ago.
    Custodial parent charging rent to the one still at home, won't pay the others medical bills.
    Also Custodial Parent had children in daycare until theit 18th birthday
    (Children were not in day care for 6 plus years @50 a week)
    Custodial parent still collecting support
    Other siblings moved out after their 18th birthday aND Custodial parent never notified me or the court.I found out ....

    I call it fraud, then again this is Illinois

    Recourse?

    Is the child support they are collecting
    arrears ?
  • 03-15-2018, 06:55 AM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting BooRennie
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    They go to daycare in the summer, too. Geez, do you folks HAVE to have everything spelled out for you?

    Through their 18th birthday?
  • 03-15-2018, 10:13 AM
    qwaspolk69
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting PMMH
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    I'm questioning a legitimate daycare center allowing anyone over the age of 12 to attend.

    There are daycares for special needs children. So yes it is possible for someone over 12 to attend daycare if special needs. I know for a fact they exist - my daughter goes to a special need daycare and they take children from six weeks to 18 years old. I see different buses come and pick up kids and drop them off too.
  • 03-15-2018, 11:08 AM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Yes but there is no mention that any child is special needs. And the OP seems to be gone.
  • 03-15-2018, 11:37 AM
    PMMH
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting qwaspolk69
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    There are daycares for special needs children. So yes it is possible for someone over 12 to attend daycare if special needs. I know for a fact they exist - my daughter goes to a special need daycare and they take children from six weeks to 18 years old. I see different buses come and pick up kids and drop them off too.

    OP said one child lives on his own and the other is a college student paying rent. No mention of special needs is made.

    Quote:

    Quoting Shadowbunny
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    OP said "Children were not in day care for 6 plus years @50 a week".

    So I assume he meant that while he was paying for child care at $50 per week (which would be quite the bargain for 2 kids), that the children stopped going at age 12.

    OP said (which is a direct contradiction to each other)
    "Also Custodial Parent had children in daycare until theit 18th birthday
    (Children were not in day care for 6 plus years @50 a week)"
    She had them in daycare until they were 18 and then they were not in daycare for 6 plus years. I['m not sure how she had them both in and not in simultaneously.

    Quote:

    Quoting BooRennie
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    Some I know of allow children up to the age of 13 attend after school care. But since you know everything.... :encouragement:

    That's totally the same as 18 and so different from 12.
  • 03-15-2018, 05:15 PM
    qwaspolk69
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting PayrolGuy
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    Yes but there is no mention that any child is special needs. And the OP seems to be gone.

    I get that but someone said they doubt a legitimate daycare would have kids in it past 12...so I answered that yes legitimate daycare do allow kids past 12. Just clarifying they exist.
  • 03-15-2018, 10:34 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    The OP has not been back to clarify, but why not see if we can set a record for the number of responses generated by speculation about a minor issue in the question. :friendly_wink:
  • 03-15-2018, 11:13 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting Mr. Knowitall
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    The OP has not been back to clarify, but why not see if we can set a record for the number of responses generated by speculation about a minor issue in the question. :friendly_wink:

    Hold my beer.
  • 03-16-2018, 06:42 AM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
    Quote:

    Quoting Dogmatique
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    Hold my beer.


    The last words of several of people I graduated high school with.
  • 03-16-2018, 06:48 AM
    free9man
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
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    Quoting Dogmatique
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    Hold my beer.

    Where's the dadgum like button?
  • 03-16-2018, 09:15 AM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Custodial Parent is Charging Rent and Not Paying Medical Bills
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    Where's the dadgum like button?

    At the bottom of the bottle :p
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