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  • 02-20-2018, 05:39 PM
    policestateofmind
    Missing Court-Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Connecticut

    I was in a domestic dispute that requires me to go to court ordered classes. The problem is that I won't be able to because I have no resources being from out of the state. (no transportation, nowhere to live, etc) I do not know the best way to handle this situation because I have never been in trouble my entire life. I was already told that the charges will be dropped if I go to these classes, but I do not know what to do. I have only been to arraignment so far and they didn't let me speak at all and I am afraid on my next court date they will suppress my voice again. It is VERY important to me that the judge understands my situation otherwise she/he will interpret this as a lack of desire to do what it takes. So...
    1. If I tell the judge the position I am in and how it makes attendance of these classes impossible, will a fair and practical arrangement be made for me that's actually do-able?
    2. If I am "s.o.l" what is likely to happen to me from not being able to make it to these classes?
  • 02-20-2018, 07:25 PM
    Highwayman
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    You need to contact the court clerk, preferably in person, and find out what your options are.

    What do you mean you "have no resources from being out of the state"??

    I'll just add that if you went to court on a criminal matter without an attorney then you were foolish.
  • 02-20-2018, 07:29 PM
    llworking
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    Quote:

    Quoting policestateofmind
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    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Connecticut

    I was in a domestic dispute that requires me to go to court ordered classes. The problem is that I won't be able to because I have no resources being from out of the state. (no transportation, nowhere to live, etc) I do not know the best way to handle this situation because I have never been in trouble my entire life. I was already told that the charges will be dropped if I go to these classes, but I do not know what to do. I have only been to arraignment so far and they didn't let me speak at all and I am afraid on my next court date they will suppress my voice again. It is VERY important to me that the judge understands my situation otherwise she/he will interpret this as a lack of desire to do what it takes. So...
    1. If I tell the judge the position I am in and how it makes attendance of these classes impossible, will a fair and practical arrangement be made for me that's actually do-able?
    2. If I am "s.o.l" what is likely to happen to me from not being able to make it to these classes?

    You need to check into whether or not the same or similar classes are offered online. If they are, then asking for permission to take them online because its not possible for you to attend brick and mortar classes in the state would be better than stating that you cannot take them. If taking them online is not possible then asking if you can take a similar class or classes in the state where you will be living is also a better option than simply saying that you cannot take them.
  • 02-20-2018, 07:38 PM
    policestateofmind
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
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    How are a bunch of strangers on an Internet forum going to be able to predict what a judge will do?

    You need to contact the court clerk, preferably in person, and find out what your options are.

    What do you mean you "have no resources from being out of the state"??

    I'll just add that if you went to court on a criminal matter without an attorney then you were foolish.

    It was arraignment. My mother committed suicide recently and I had to pay for her funeral which wiped out my saved income and left me in debt. Shortly after this I lost my job. I currently have no income, no place to reside in the state the offense occured, and no transportation. When I say I have no resources necessary to complete the court ordered classes, I mean absolutely nothing. Ever hear of the expression you can't get blood out of a stone? Think of that.
  • 02-20-2018, 07:49 PM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    Where do you sleep ? How do you get the food you eat ? Obviously you have access to the internet.
  • 02-20-2018, 07:57 PM
    policestateofmind
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
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    Where do you sleep ? How do you get the food you eat ? Obviously you have access to the internet.

    It would seem that your intent is to tell me I'm being dishonest about my situation. What would I gain by such an action? I am a state away staying at a friends and the stay is a limited one. I am sure your imagination had the capacity to have come up with that without me needing to explain it though. If you can provide useful information, which is ultimately why I and everyone else has joined this site, than great..I would love to hear it and would thank you for being of value to me. If you only want to discredit me and try to make me out to be a fool than that speaks of how you like to use your time and quite frankly, aren't worth the keyboard you type with to me. Which one is it Mercy&Grace?
  • 02-20-2018, 08:08 PM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    The Judge is not going to let you get off scott free. You should have thought about all of these things before you committed domestic violence.

    Do you have a court appointed attorney ?
  • 02-20-2018, 08:14 PM
    llworking
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
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    Quoting policestateofmind
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    It would seem that your intent is to tell me I'm being dishonest about my situation. What would I gain by such an action? I am a state away staying at a friends and the stay is a limited one. I am sure your imagination had the capacity to have come up with that without me needing to explain it though. If you can provide useful information, which is ultimately why I and everyone else has joined this site, than great..I would love to hear it and would thank you for being of value to me. If you only want to discredit me and try to make me out to be a fool than that speaks of how you like to use your time and quite frankly, aren't worth the keyboard you type with to me. Which one is it Mercy&Grace?

    Do you plan to respond like that when the judge asks you the same questions? If so, then expect to get your backside handed to you in court.
  • 02-20-2018, 08:35 PM
    policestateofmind
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
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    Quoting llworking
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    Do you plan to respond like that when the judge asks you the same questions? If so, then expect to get your backside handed to you in court.

    I'm speaking to people that should be giving advice..not someone in control of selecting the punishment I should receive.

    Context. Context. Context.

    I don't think that was a serious question.. more of a rhetorical one to try to make me realize it's important to be courteous to the judge. I know that. If it was a serious question than you and those like you are the reason they put the warnings on silica packets saying not to eat them. Hope I didn't offend you by the lack of a filter I have for internet forums.

    Yes..Much to my dismay - I have a public defender. You are right I shouldn't have and certainly wish I didn't get myself in this mess.
  • 02-20-2018, 08:51 PM
    llworking
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    You are going to get advice here based on legal reality. Legal reality is that one way or another you are going to have to obey the orders of the court or deal with the consequences for not doing so.
  • 02-21-2018, 06:20 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Missing Court-Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
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    Quoting policestateofmind
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    I was in a domestic dispute that requires me to go to court ordered classes. The problem is that I won't be able to because I have no resources being from out of the state. (no transportation, nowhere to live, etc)

    You will need to determine from the court whether they will accept your enrollment in a local domestic violence program as an alternative to the one that is preferred by the court. Then you will need to find a way to attend and complete that program.
    Quote:

    Quoting policestateofmind
    I was already told that the charges will be dropped if I go to these classes, but I do not know what to do.

    If you want the charges to be dropped, you will find a way to do what the court ordered. If you prefer to have a criminal record and potentially spend some time behind bars, you can decline the opportunity.
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    Quoting policestateofmind
    I have only been to arraignment so far and they didn't let me speak at all....

    You accepted the deferral. If you choose to violate the terms of the deferral, you'll get an opportunity to speak in court -- to enter a plea, and have your case scheduled for trial, plea hearing or sentencing.
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    Quoting policestateofmind
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    I have a public defender.

    Well, then: Talk to your lawyer.
  • 02-21-2018, 12:33 PM
    viol8te
    Re: Missing Court-Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    How were you ordered to complete a domestic violence program at arraignment? Once you were ordered to completed it, who is supposed to be monitoring your compliance with the judge's order? When you agreed to the terms of the order, were you then sentenced to probation?
  • 02-21-2018, 01:35 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Missing Court-Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
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    Quoting viol8te
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    How were you ordered to complete a domestic violence program at arraignment?

    He agreed to a deferral and, if he completes the terms of the deferral, the charge will be dismissed.
    Quote:

    Quoting viol8te
    Once you were ordered to completed it, who is supposed to be monitoring your compliance with the judge's order?

    Odds are he has been given a date by which to provide documentation of completion to the court.
  • 02-21-2018, 03:17 PM
    viol8te
    Re: Missing Court-Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    OP seems to be suggesting that options are limited and there really is no possible way to complete what was agreed upon in court. I understand what you're saying about "odds are" but, my impression is, odds are that OP is fishing for a plausible excuse for willingly opting not to complete what was agreed upon.
  • 02-22-2018, 07:21 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Missing Court-Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    Where there's a will, there's a way.
  • 02-22-2018, 02:53 PM
    qwaspolk69
    Re: Regarding Court Ordered Domestic Violence Classes
    Quote:

    Quoting policestateofmind
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    I'm speaking to people that should be giving advice..not someone in control of selecting the punishment I should receive.

    Context. Context. Context.

    I don't think that was a serious question.. more of a rhetorical one to try to make me realize it's important to be courteous to the judge. I know that. If it was a serious question than you and those like you are the reason they put the warnings on silica packets saying not to eat them. Hope I didn't offend you by the lack of a filter I have for internet forums.

    Yes..Much to my dismay - I have a public defender. You are right I shouldn't have and certainly wish I didn't get myself in this mess.

    No that was a pretty legit question - you say you have nowhere to stay, no food, that you're basically destitute yet you have Internet access. Legit question to ask how you get on the Internet or other things but you can't get to court.

    If you want the charges dropped you better figure it out. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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