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  • 02-22-2018, 01:58 PM
    lildee
    Re: Mail Theft, Forgery and Misuse of a Stolen Bank Card
    It was a check I received from a company. Not a check I wrote.
  • 02-22-2018, 02:02 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Mail Theft, Forgery and Misuse of a Stolen Bank Card
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    It was a check I received from a company. Not a check I wrote.

    Still not sure why the IRS would give a whit unless there was something funny going on with the company that wrote the check.
  • 02-22-2018, 02:04 PM
    lildee
    Re: Mail Theft, Forgery and Misuse of a Stolen Bank Card
    I had a couple of checks coming in the mail, made out to me. She stole them from my mailbox, forged my signature, and signed them over to herself. The IRS is involved because they show I have "unclaimed income". I had to file an identity theft report with them because these are checks/money I never actually received.
  • 02-22-2018, 02:18 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
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    The IRS is involved because they show I have "unclaimed income".

    Do you mean unreported income, based upon your failure to report income that came to you via the stolen checks?
  • 02-22-2018, 02:29 PM
    llworking
    Re: Mail Theft, Forgery and Misuse of a Stolen Bank Card
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    It was a check I received from a company. Not a check I wrote.

    That doesn't explain how the IRS got involved. It just makes it even weirder that the IRS would be involved.
  • 02-22-2018, 02:30 PM
    lildee
    Re: Mail Theft, Forgery and Misuse of a Stolen Bank Card
    Yes, sorry, unreported income.
    One was from the State of California because I bought an electric car. You get a $1500 rebate when you purchase an electric vehicle. The check was stolen from my mailbox. The other check was from Citibank for $2200. That check was also stolen from my mailbox. The IRS has it in their system that I received these forms of payment. I, however, did not receive these forms of payment because she intercepted the checks. So both of the issuing banks are investigating. I also had to send a copy of the forged checks to the IRS. All of that is being taken care of. My question had to do with what can the law do about this. It looks like the unfortunate answer is...probably nothing. Maybe between the banks, the US Postal Inspection Service, and the IRS all investigating, some type of action will be taken.
  • 02-22-2018, 02:33 PM
    llworking
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    I had a couple of checks coming in the mail, made out to me. She stole them from my mailbox, forged my signature, and signed them over to herself. The IRS is involved because they show I have "unclaimed income". I had to file an identity theft report with them because these are checks/money I never actually received.

    Why would you file an identity theft report with the IRS in that instance? The IRS does not send out a CP-2000 letter claiming that you did not report certain income unless they received a 1099 for you that you did not include on your tax return. That means that you ignored one or more 1099s that you received when you did your taxes and that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that she stole the money.

    On top of that, it means that the alleged theft took place sometime in 2015 or 2016 because any CP-2000 letters coming out now would be addressing one of those years. How is it that you never received that much money and are just discovering it now?
  • 02-22-2018, 02:34 PM
    lildee
    Re: Mail Theft, Forgery and Misuse of a Stolen Bank Card
    When you received a "large" form of payment, you have to report it to the IRS as income. I never reported it because I never received it. The IRS, however, shows that I did. I had to send the IRS a copy of the police reports, copies of the forged checks, etc to show I was a victim of identity theft.
  • 02-22-2018, 02:37 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Mail Theft, Forgery and Misuse of a Stolen Bank Card
    How LONG ago did this happen? The IRS does not routinely monitor local police reports, and until it came time for this employer to have reported the income and for you to have filed your taxes, it wouldn't be an issue ... VERY peculiar that they would be involved at all unless this happened some time ago.

    I wouldn't count on much from the Postal Inspector or the bank. The local police might be able to make the case provided there is sufficient proof to do so. If they do, it could take many months before there is any real movement. And, with the SoL being three years, there is no great rush for them to act on a property crime offense. Speak to the investigator and ask what the status might be. They may have already forwarded it to the DA .. .they may be waiting to make contact with the suspect. Who knows?
  • 02-22-2018, 02:38 PM
    llworking
    Re: Mail Theft, Forgery and Misuse of a Stolen Bank Card
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    When you received a "large" form of payment, you have to report it to the IRS as income. I never reported it because I never received it. The IRS, however, shows that I did. I had to send the IRS a copy of the police reports, copies of the forged checks, etc to show I was a victim of identity theft.

    Once again, what the IRS received was a copy of the 1099 that was issued to you covering the payment. Since you got the 1099, you knew darn well that the income had been reported under your name. What's more, who doesn't know what is owed to them and that it hasn't been received?
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