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  • 01-11-2018, 10:42 AM
    UNTEX1990
    What is Your Duty to Provide Computer Files When You Resign from a Company
    My question involves labor and employment law for the state of: California.

    Hi Everyone,

    I resigned (mutually negotiated) from a small accounting firm. She (my supervisor/owner) want's me to go as a contractor role, primarily to document and hand over
    the task to another person whom she favors (contractor). My performance has been exceptional and she (owner) has stated to me and to a family member of my
    contribution to her firm, however, California is a at-will state and an employer can terminate or force one to resign at any moment.

    My supervisor (CPA owner) has been calling, messaging and emailing me with work related questions, even though, my last day of my employment was 30-days ago.
    I do not mind answering and helping her out, however, since I stated to her via phone and email that I do not wish to continue employment (contractor role) with her firm, she
    has gotten into defensive mode.

    She is asking for my thumb drive (I purchased it to save work) and to not delete anything off my laptop. I have already deleted 3/4 of materials that were on the thumb
    drive and everything on the thumb drive is either on the company server or on the cloud, except for my personal files. My laptop has tax software which she asked me to
    delete yesterday, but states today to save everything in case I come back to her firm, which I have no intention of doing so.

    She has requested that I mail her the thumb drive and save everything that's on my laptop.

    Would I be liable if I do not mail the thumb drive to her?
    And, would I be liable if I delete the tax software?

    Thank you,
    Brian.
  • 01-11-2018, 10:51 AM
    hr for me
    Re: Resignation Issues
    Assuming you own both the thumb drive and the laptop and files are stored elsewhere that she has access to......

    I would state to her exactly what is (still) on the thumb drive and where to find it on the business/work server/cloud. I would tell her I already deleted the duplicate files from the thumb drive and the tax software from the laptop. And all other work-related files. The fact that 30 days have gone by, this is stuff she should have gotten before your last day if it was an issue. In the end if you want to send the thumb drive, I would send it back empty.

    What she "wants" doesn't matter. I would make it clear as crystal that you will not be returning. And that you will no longer be answering messages, calls or emails. You have no obligation to do so unless you signed some agreement when you first started.
  • 01-11-2018, 11:53 AM
    UNTEX1990
    Re: Resignation Issues
    Thank you for you fast reply HFM,

    Yes, I have no intention of returning. Yes, I have the thumb drive and all information that's in there (3/4 of which I deleted) are in the cloud or the server of the e-commerce client, except my personal files. My laptop contains only the tax software that she initially stated to me to delete, but today for me to keep (maybe she wants that too). She wants me to mail the thumb drive to her. I signed the confidentiality
    form 3 days after I resigned. Only reason why she wants me as a contract role is for me to document (e-commerce tasks) and finish and document what I started on the tax side of her business. I'm thankful for the opportunity she has given me, but the ordeal of working with her has been very stressful.

    Hi hr for me,

    Although, I am reluctant to assist her, I'm afraid that she will put a negative statement on my employment file. I got her to sign a reference letter that I wrote and she signed via Adobe E-signature (as she was leaving the country), but I'm concerned that the information that I attained from one of her client (e-commerce) is really bothering her. Any files from the e-commerce client was deleted a while back and anything that remains on my thumb drive or the laptop are tax clients.
  • 01-11-2018, 12:43 PM
    LegalWriter
    Re: What is Your Duty to Provide Computer Files When You Resign from a Companyh
    If you have any client information or files, you must return them to her. Those are confidential, belong to the client and your former employer and your right to them terminated with your employment. It doesn't matter on what medium they are stored, you can no longer have them or access to them.
  • 01-11-2018, 12:55 PM
    eerelations
    Re: What is Your Duty to Provide Computer Files When You Resign from a Companyh
    It is perfectly legal for an employer to require a former employee to return the employer's property upon or after resignation. While the thumb drive itself and your laptop may be your property, they both (by your own admission) contain files that are the property of your former employer. Even if the files are duplicates of ones already in your former employer's possession, the files on your thumb drive and in your laptop are still your former employer's property. As a result, you are legally obliged to return those files.

    In addition, your former employer has the legal right to place negative statements in your file, as long as said statements are true. And please note that employers almost always ignore reference letters about prospective employees (in 30+ years in HR, I never bothered reading a single reference letter), they phone previous employers and get the information that way. So whatever your former employer said in the reference letter you wrote on her behalf is moot - prospective employers will base their hiring decisions on what she said to them in a phone call.
  • 01-11-2018, 01:05 PM
    asa_jim
    Re: What is Your Duty to Provide Computer Files When You Resign from a Companyh
    It is bad juju to use the same device to store personal files and files belonging to an employer for this very reason.
  • 01-11-2018, 01:12 PM
    llworking
    Re: What is Your Duty to Provide Computer Files When You Resign from a Companyh
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    It is bad juju to use the same device to store personal files and files belonging to an employer for this very reason.

    While I do not agree with you or erelations, this employer is demanding the OP's personal property/hardware. I would never give an employer my personal property.
  • 01-11-2018, 01:32 PM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: What is Your Duty to Provide Computer Files When You Resign from a Companyh
    The OP has the property of the employer. IE the files. The only way the employer can confirm they have been removed from the OP's devices is to actually see the devices.
  • 01-11-2018, 02:06 PM
    UNTEX1990
    Re: What is Your Duty to Provide Computer Files When You Resign from a Companyh
    Hi asa_jim,

    Only thing that was personal on the thumb drive was my business related documentation, such as time sheet, employment records such as W-4, I-9, reimbursements and other employment records. No personal that was beyond my employment with the employer was ever stored on the thumb drive. I have already fragmented and permanently deleted 3/4 of what's on the thumb drive. The remaining are tax records of few of the clients whose returns and representation have not been finalized.

    Hi eerelations,

    Do I ask for the expense of mailing the thumb drive? And, should I permanently delete whatever it is on it? As for reference letter, I have already found a great job in Dallas. Only thing that's stored on my laptop are the tax software with around 8 tax entities. I don't mind her sending me email with work related questions, however, she has been sending me messages via messenger app and asking to call her several time. I wish her and her company the best, as she did give me a tremendous opportunity and I have learned a lot during 10 month time with her firm.
  • 01-11-2018, 02:43 PM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: What is Your Duty to Provide Computer Files When You Resign from a Companyh
    You had no business taking client records out of the building on a personal thumbdrive.
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