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li.bee94
you obviously didnt read everything i wrote. on top of that, the marks were not new marks. i get my son once a month. the marks could have been there for up to 4 weeks. i asked him does it hurt, he said no. i didnt see the marks until around 10pm on a friday nite. he said they didnt hurt. they werent bleeding. there were obviously in the healing stages. he insisted they didnt hurt. that did not warrant an emergency room visit. i dropped him off sunday night and called cps first thing monday morning. they said i had to do it thru the court.
You do not take the child to the doctor only if they are hurt or bleeding, you also take them to the doctor to document possible abuse.
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on my petition i filed, i wrote down i wanted change of custody. on the day of the court date, the referee asked me what i why did i file the petition.....i told him that i wanted full custody....the court appointed attorney INTERRUPTED ME WHILE I WAS TALKING and said she didnt see a reason for it BEFORE I FINISHED MY STATEMENT AND WITHOUT EVEN ASKING WHY I WAS ASKING. THAT IS BEING BIASED.
On the petition you filed you needed to state exactly what you wanted and exactly why you wanted it. You didn't even fully state what you wanted, let alone exactly why you wanted it. Therefore, since you did not do that, nobody saw any reason to change custody. You cannot just surprise the other party with an accusation of abuse at the hearing, you have to put it in writing, ahead of time.
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Like i said, when i saw her, i thought she was someone working in the building but when she interrupted me and said that, i thought she may have been a lawyer my son's mother hired.
After i confronted her and told her she was being rude for interrupting and didnt have any facts,
She did not have any facts because you did not put them in the petition...and who is foolish enough to tell their child's attorney that they are "rude"???
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i told the referee i had pictures of bruises on my son's back that he couldn't have possibly put there on his own....i told him that my son was uncomfortable talking about it and that he kept telling me story after story that didnt make any sense.
So you admitted that you had no evidence that mom or the child's family did anything wrong.
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i showed the referee the pics, he then said he had to show the court appointed attorney for my son. she looked at them and then said that she DID NOT want to initiate a cps investigation. i then came back with a lawyer to follow up with this petition and my lawyer argued so a cps investigation would be opened.
i want this lady off of my case. like i said, she took the case over and i was never notified by her. i see her and my son's mother walking down the hall TO the courtroom and walking away together from the court room talking like they're friends. this lady didnt even have the respect to introduce herself to me, give me her contact information....NOTHING let alone how she acted in the courtroom that day.
i have spoken to a retired social services worker who even told me that during her career she witnessed that time and time again when they court appointed attorney was a woman. there is no exaggeration here. i followed the directions and procedures i was told to. the only mistake you may say i made is not bringing him to a doctor. had they been sores or open wounds, i would have.
You need to work exclusively with an attorney from now on because you honestly are not competent to represent yourself. I do not mean that as an insult, I mean it as the truth. You do not understand what you have to do and when you have to do it.
Re: What to Do if a Minor's Court-Appointed Attorney Seems Biased
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after my lawyer had them open the case, i followed up with cps on my own to make sure they were taking this case serious. at that time, the cps worker told me that they reviewed the pictures and did in fact say that it would be impossible for him to do this on his own.
That, Sir, is a load of horse manure. It certainly looks like at least the court is trying to do what's best for the poor child.
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[QUOTE= i asked for cps to get involved. her response was 'no' to the cps investigation when the pictures obviously show marks on him that were IMPOSSIBLE for him to do on his own. [/QUOTE]
That does not mean the marks are from abuse. If CPS thought the child had been abused they would have investigated.
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"On the petition you filed you needed to state exactly what you wanted and exactly why ou wanted it. You didn't even fully state what you wanted, let alone exactly why you wanted it. Therefore, since you did not do that, nobody saw any reason to change custody. You cannot just surprise the other party with an accusation of abuse at the hearing, you have to put it in writing, ahead of time."..........you cannot get a court date without writing why you are asking so i did put in the petition that i was apply for full custody. when i appeared and the referee asks me what its about, i expect to be able to finish my statement without being interrupted by a person who i have never met NOR were introduced to. that lady stood in the hallway with while we waited for the referee to let us in the room.....only us 3 in the hallway. she spoke to my son's mother the entire time KNOWING that i DID NOT KNOW WHO SHE WAS AND AT ANY TIME could have taken 4 steps to her right to say, hi....we havent met but i am the new attorney for your son. we were out there for almosts 5 minutes and she spoke to my son's mother the entire time.
"She did not have any facts because you did not put them in the petition...and who is foolish enough to tell their child's attorney that they are "rude"???"........it doesnt matter who you are, she was rude for not introducing herself for one and she was rude for cutting me off while i answered the referee's question.
"So you admitted that you had no evidence that mom or the child's family did anything wrong.".........my exact words to the referee were that i wanted to find out how these bruises got there. i didnt point a finger at anybody in particular. but when i am dealing with someone who is a known & proven liar....was scolded by the court for lying under oath.....then my only option was to get cps involved to talk to my son. im not going to haunt him by asking him repeatedly when i see all it is doing is getting him more upset. so maybe he would be more open to speaking to someone neutral.
"You need to work exclusively with an attorney from now on because you honestly are not competent to represent yourself. I do not mean that as an insult, I mean it as the truth. You do not understand what you have to do and when you have to do it.".........i did what i was told when i called cps the first time. i filed a court date and demanded an investigation thru the court. when they denied me, i went and hired an attorney to get them to begin an investigation and that's where we are now.
in the meantime, i am doing my homework in regards to how this court appointed attorney is addressing the situation. it is unprofessional because what i found out so far is that they are supposed to do their due dilligence when beginning a case which includes, interviewing both parents to get an understanding of what the climate is. the only thing i have been taken to court for is to establish child support which i am ahead in. every other time we have gone to court is because of her violating the court order. not once has she had to take me to court for anything negative. there police reports filed BY ME because of me not being able to find my son for almost a week each time.
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Mercy&Grace
That does not mean the marks are from abuse. If CPS thought the child had been abused they would have investigated.
they are investigating
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Dogmatique
That, Sir, is a load of horse manure. It certainly looks like at least the court is trying to do what's best for the poor child.
do me a favor ok?!
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qwaspolk69
When you noticed these marks did you take your son to the doctor?
Again you didn't answer the question: Did you take the child to the doctor when you noticed the marks and bruises? Yes or no? Why didn't you call CPS?
i did not take him to the doctor after he told me they didnt hurt. the marks could have been there for up to 4 weeks because i fly up to see him 1 weekend a month. but they were not new marks. they were beginning to heal.
i did call cps on that monday morning. they told me i had to do it thru the court which i did and the investigation is going on now.
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It doesn't matter if they didn't hurt or if they were old. You still should have taken him to the doctor IMMEDIATELY after seeing this marks to document them and the doctor could tell you what possibly could have made them.
If I got my kid back from anywhere and she had any marks on her that looked suspicious I'd take her to the doctor. Do I take her every time she gets a bruise? No. Because she's a toddler and falls or runs into things. But if I saw anything that looked out of place or strange you better believe I'd take her to the doctor especially if she had been with anyone but me for any time.
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It doesn't matter if they didn't hurt or if they were old. You still should have taken him to the doctor IMMEDIATELY after seeing this marks to document them and the doctor could tell you what possibly could have made them.
If I got my kid back from anywhere and she had any marks on her that looked suspicious I'd take her to the doctor. Do I take her every time she gets a bruise? No. Because she's a toddler and falls or runs into things. But if I saw anything that looked out of place or strange you better believe I'd take her to the doctor especially if she had been with anyone but me for any time.
you're right....this is my only child so i dont know all of the procedures. my initial reaction after hearing all of the crazy stories was to call cps. in my mind, at that time, he was afraid & whoever did this to him told him not to tell "or else". had he not kept changing his story or said anything outlandish like he did, i wouldnt have thought the worse.
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you're right....this is my only child so i dont know all of the procedures. my initial reaction after hearing all of the crazy stories was to call cps. in my mind, at that time, he was afraid & whoever did this to him told him not to tell "or else". had he not kept changing his story or said anything outlandish like he did, i wouldnt have thought the worse.
I only have one kid and I know that common sense if she has strange injuries is to take her to the doctor...