Given Verbal Trespass by a Police Officer
My question involves criminal law for the state of: New Mexico
I had a relationship with a person who is on medications for anxiety, depression, anger etc.
I had decided to end the relationship and text the person this. I had asked numerous times if they did not want contact and if they did not want me on their property to retrieve items. Nothing was ever said.
Being a old friend I also had concerns of the persons well being so would text them. I made it clear many times if they do not wish contact to specify. They never said nothing. This was normal however for the person to not reply.
I had then knocked on the door to ask about items. I got no answer and was never revoked entry onto the property to knock.
Several days later the person who is employed by a police dept but not a officer, had I am guessing caught wind of me addressing concerns with a operator to speak with a commander about issues the person has and possible retaliation as the person had made threats before.
I called for a supervisor and was put on hold few times to make a report and document incase person had made issues.
I then asked if it is conflict of interest and if I needed to speak to the sheriffs about it. They said no and the operator said a supervisor would come.
40 minutes later a regular patrol officer hsd come and gave a verbal trespass from persons property and stated your close to charges. I had said I never received or was told never to speak to or enter said property.
He left I didn't not have to sign anything or was never asked for a valid id.
4 hours later a watch commander came by as I had called for and I asked about the charges part he said oh no its nothing like that and I addressed the concerns I had somewhat but was dumb founded why a regular officer showed to begin with when I requested a suspervisor to begin with since person is employed by them.
He left. So is it a scare tactic to not trespass without signing anything or such in NM?
I never was told not to enter the grounds of a property by the renter or anyone prior, I had asked the person numerous times prior if they did not wish contact or did not want me on property. They never said a word.
Yet I call to file information report about the person possibly causing problems as they threatened me before and said they know allot people in the police dept. Yet a rookie officer shows up and issues a trespass saying person said not to enter or go on property which they never did and logs of phone records could prove this.
Is there something here that is odd or that I should consult with a lawyer about? I feel that the person found out I had called about requesting a supervisor to report the person's issues and concern of being harassed or retaliated on in future and all of sudden it seemed like for me calling this the person was told then issued a no trespass and I didn't have to sign anything. It just sounds odd to me then considering the sgt said it's nothing like that when I asked about what charges the rookie was referring to.
I never made any threats to said person or was never told to not communicate or go by from the person before. Which I had asked several times if the person never wished contact but I also said I don't need problems or anything. Is this person using the their job and no trespass law as intimidation to get even for me reporting issues?
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Yet a rookie officer shows up and issues a trespass saying person said not to enter or go on property which they never did and logs of phone records could prove this.
how do you know the demand to leave them alone was not made at the request of the person you have been trying to get into contact with?
Ya see, you're mistaken. Your logs and phone records won't include the conversation this person has had with the police and all they had to do is tell the police you are bothering them and they want you to leave them alone. That would provide the situation you have now.
You can treat it like the cop made the statement without any authority to do so and risk being charged with trespassing or you can take him at his word and leave this person alone. It's your choice.
The fact your texts and door knocking has gone unanswered should tell you something.
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There is nothing to see an attorney about. The cops were giving you friendly advise to stay away. Next time you may find yourself on the receiving end of a restraining order. You ended the relationship now get on with your life.
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Like I had said the person was normal to not say anything for week or two at time. Does same to family they have. Why I had asked if they did not want contact but never got response.
That is fine. I had met someone else anyway. But what I am asking is I had reported issues to command in which person was leaking information from officer safety stand point and using ncic as perosnal gain for friends. I have in past recorded person making statements about people in nature of threats or manic attacks fits of rage to racial slurs and other concerns that most would also see a concern of. But after I reported this is what I'm asking. I had cut contact then as time passed deciding to say something since I had feared person using job as intimidation which person had threatened to do in past I hadn't said nothing. After I reported the issues is when it started. I had also told them I do not wish contact by this person. Basically time passed I didn't make contact what so ever. Then I reported the issues and that is when person started their issues and out of nowhere trespass.
I had called, then person was informed by co workers I had called and then the issue started. The supervisor wasnt even aware at first anyone else came by. It was a surprise to him. He made comment he would have to forward it to internal affairs. Basically I call and someone notifies her before even sending a supervisor out.
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So basically you're being vindictive to a person that rebuffed your romantic interest.
So you made your report. You've been told to stay away from them. It's time to move on and if they are investigated then it is what it is.
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Vindictive? No. Like I said the person had threatened before with several things and had hit me few times which was documented by medical but never reported. I was told by person if I did they would destroy me or make me regret it.
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Enough already - it's not your residence so stay away. Move on with your life.
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You miss the point. If it were a woman and asking you'd be preaching what to do. Do you understand I have not snd don't care to go to that persons property?
Any how as of right now shes been arrested for criminal trespass of MY property and vandalism. Like I said she has been vindictive toward me and stalking. I involved the state police which are handling it now. The thread can be closed. You folks obviously missed the point of me asking about it and jumped gun on man being the bad guy. So I see where this forum stands in regards to sexism. I'll be closing account for sure.
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Male or female doesn't matter and honestly I placed no gender on either of you. The fact is you were told to leave the person alone. I suggest you do just that lest you will be facing criminal charges.
Now that you have added what you have. I pity you. Your situstion of what appears to be infatuation has made you crazy. If you didnt care to go to that person's property, you wouldn't have gone and you wouldn't have asked how you can be prevented doing such without that person telling you in person they want you to leave them alone.
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You miss the point. If it were a woman and asking you'd be preaching what to do...
Really? I couldn't care less what gender you are - the answer is the same. Leave this other person alone, stay away from her residence, and move on with your life.
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I'll be closing account for sure.
If you think you're scaring or upsetting anyone with this statement, you're wrong.
Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.