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  • 07-27-2017, 11:38 AM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Government Job Classification Doesn't Match Duties
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    ...my private sector experience is a lot closer to 40 years than I want to admit...

    That throws us WAY over 100 years.
  • 07-27-2017, 12:52 PM
    cbg
    Re: Government Job Classification Doesn't Match Duties
    ^^^^^^


    :d :d :d

    For some reason the smilies won't smile.
  • 07-27-2017, 02:38 PM
    PayrolGuy
    Re: Government Job Classification Doesn't Match Duties
    What was HR like back when dinosaurs were a workplace hazard? :friendly_wink:
  • 07-27-2017, 02:45 PM
    cbg
    Re: Government Job Classification Doesn't Match Duties
    You don't want to know what the OSHA log looked like back then.
  • 07-27-2017, 06:07 PM
    2weeknotice25556
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    Well, the very nature of HR work is helping people with employment issues, so why you have a problem with that I don't know.

    And I didn't bash you, you (possibly deliberately) misunderstood my statement and bashed me.

    You don't realize there is a serious mistrust of HR among employees? We figured out who your boss is. When I asked if everyone here was HR, I honestly didn't expect it to be the case lol I would have never posted
  • 07-27-2017, 06:21 PM
    cbg
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    Oh, yes, we realize it. We're well aware that we're held up as the bogey man by the supervising managers: "I want to do/not do that for you but HR won't let me". We're quite aware that because we're expected to pull out our magic wands and fix everything just the way the employee wants it, and when the battery dies on the wand it can't possibly be because the law doesn't permit something, or because we recommended something and the boss overrode it, everyone assumes it's because "HR works for the bosses" and are deliberately making all the employees miserable just because they can. We're quite aware that there are regular posters right here on this site who will tell the posters that HR will always take the employers side regardless of the truth. We know that we're expected to take the heat and bear all the responsibility, even when we're screaming at the employer that they should be doing x and the employer insists on doing y.

    We also know that nothing we can say is going to change any minds and that there will always be those who assume that HR is going to automatically rule in favor of the employer every time. So we just put up with being the bad guys and come here to try to help anyway.

    So now that you know that we're all just corporate stooges here (rolleye) you may as well just take yourself off to answers.yahoo.com where you can get answers you'll like better. They'll be wrong answers, and they'll come from people who don't have a clue what the correct answers are and are only guessing based on what they think the law ought to be, but they'll make you feel all justified and smug. And more importantly, they won't be coming from HR.

    Off with you, now.
  • 07-27-2017, 07:28 PM
    hr for me
    Re: Government Job Classification Doesn't Match Duties
    Love you cbg!!!!:friendly_wink:
  • 07-28-2017, 04:16 AM
    eerelations
    Re: Government Job Classification Doesn't Match Duties
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    You don't realize there is a serious mistrust of HR among employees? We figured out who your boss is. When I asked if everyone here was HR, I honestly didn't expect it to be the case lol I would have never posted

    More bashing! :rolleyes:
  • 07-28-2017, 04:45 AM
    Mark47n
    Re: Government Job Classification Doesn't Match Duties
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    You don't realize there is a serious mistrust of HR among employees? We figured out who your boss is. When I asked if everyone here was HR, I honestly didn't expect it to be the case lol I would have never posted

    We aren't all HR but the HR respondents are the ones that are most likely to be able to provide you with the information that is pertinent and accurate.

    Note that I did not say that they would provide the information that you want.
  • 07-28-2017, 07:14 AM
    comment/ator
    Re: Government Job Classification Doesn't Match Duties
    Actually, when you say you work for the government, you even exclude ANY discretion that a supervisor or HR might have in private sector employment. If there is one thing that is true of government employment, it is that EVERYTHING is tied down, nailed to the floor, and they have already worked out whether or not this is an issue. There is a departmental HR and then there is an overall HR in this type of employment. If you want to be stupid, you could hire a labor attorney to take your case and then find out if you have one or not. You can ask supervisors and discuss issues all day long, but in government jobs, those supervisors have no specialized knowledge and very little control of HR issues such as job assignments, job titles, etc. Therefore you are being very silly if you don't begin with and stay with your departmental HR and then move on.
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