My question involves juvenile law in the State of: Texas
What do you do if your 17 year old has the permission of the custodial parent and leaves the US? Do they have to have the permission of the non-custodial parent as well?
What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
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07-16-2017, 01:30 PMnamyaWhat Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
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07-16-2017, 01:40 PMflyingronRe: What if a 17 Year Old Leaves the Country
Yes.
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07-16-2017, 03:42 PMMr. KnowitallRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
They also need permission of the foreign nation, as there are roughly zero foreign nations that want to expend social services on a minor from another country.
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07-16-2017, 04:12 PMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.What if they are with an adult - and are married to them?Quote:
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07-16-2017, 04:20 PMMr. KnowitallRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.Grown-ups spend a lot less time in a fantasy world.Quote:
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You cannot emigrate to another country without that country's permission. That's true if you're single or married. -
07-16-2017, 04:38 PMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.My question was that if they are accompanied by an adult, would it make a difference? Marriage as in they are an emancipated minor. But alright, it seems that you've answered my question.Quote:
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07-16-2017, 04:43 PMDogmatiqueRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.Children cannot run away across the border to Canada to live, even if they are emancipated.Quote:
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07-16-2017, 05:11 PMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.So would I be able to stop the kid? Do I file a report with the police or would they be stopped at the border? I was under the impression parents of emancipated children do not have the right to do these kind of things.Quote:
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07-16-2017, 05:24 PMjkRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.you need to figure out what is going on with your child. If the child is emancipated through marriage they would not be required to have their parents permission to obtain a passport or any other document required of them. Neither parent would have any parental control over them.Quote:
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Regardless, people don't just move out of the US and into a different country without the receiving country accepting them. If the child is emancipated, they can deal with the requirements without the concern of either parent. If
they are not emancipated, it requires both parents or a court be involved in the emigration process -
07-16-2017, 08:55 PMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.So in short, there is nothing that can be done?Quote:
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07-16-2017, 10:39 PMDogmatiqueRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
Google "Garden of Eden parenting".
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07-16-2017, 10:59 PMTaxing MattersRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.If the 17 year-old is married and emancipated that 17 year-old is not under the control of his/her parents any more and, at least for the U.S. side of things, the parents would have no legal means to stop the kid from going wherever he or she wants to go. What the other country will require, on the other hand, depends on its laws and those might be very different from the U.S.Quote:
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07-17-2017, 08:36 AMqwaspolk69Re: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.Do you even know if your kid got married yet or not? Find that out first.Quote:
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07-20-2017, 04:26 PMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.What? So she won't get a visa there or something? I don't understand.Quote:
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07-20-2017, 05:14 PMcbgRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
You can't just pick up and move to another country. Doesn't matter what your age is. The other country has to accept you as a resident. It is quite unlikely that a 17 year old, married or not, emancipated or not, will qualify.
https://www.expertlaw.com/forums/sho...t=Circumcision
Read my post #18 in this thread, in which I discuss the difficulties of an adult moving to England. ALL countries have such requirements, it's not just England. Read them and then tell me whether you think your child has moved outside the US.
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07-20-2017, 05:45 PMTaxing MattersRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.Whether she can get a visa is entirely up to the other country. The laws of each nation are different, sometimes very different, on this. So there is no way anyone here can say whether or not she might get a visa to go to some unknown country and what the conditions might be attached to any visa she does get.Quote:
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07-20-2017, 06:43 PMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.How do you know the visa requirements?Quote:
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Hard to tell, but I am preparing info. -
07-20-2017, 08:32 PMDogmatiqueRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.There's this awesome invention (I think Al Gore discovered it) called "The Internet" and - get this! - there's a bit called "Google" where you type in questions and it finds you stuff to read so you can get the answers!Quote:
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Is America great or what?!
(What I'm saying is that it's pretty easy to find out the visa requirements of a given country ;) ) -
07-20-2017, 08:53 PMTaxing MattersRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.It’s easy to get the very basics for at least a number of countries. The level of detail you can get for any particular country varies a lot. Moreover, laws in a lot of countries are complex and those general resources will not always be good predictors of whether any particular person will be issued a visa and what conditions attach to it. There are some countries that have stated rules but in practice do something else because of the politics of that country. Remember, not all nations share a commitment to the rule of law that the U.S. and Western European nations do. Thus, in some countries it can come down to the whim of those in power on the particular day they review the application. That said, the internet at least provides a starting point to figuring out if someone might have a shot at a visa.Quote:
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07-21-2017, 02:13 AMMark47nRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
We seem to have veered off topic from whether a parent of a married emancipated minor can move out of the country without the parents permission. Whether or not the minor has a visa, if required, is also not relevant to the legalities of the above query.
A married minor can move out of the US. When they are emancipated (in most states marriage=emancipation) The parents have no legal control over or responsibility for their children's actions. What this means for you is that you cannot stop them. There is nothing you can do about it. They're married and no longer yours to control.
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07-21-2017, 04:56 AMcbgRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
I know the visa requirements for England because:
a.) I DO qualify for an ancestry visa and my brother, in fact, lived there for seven years on one
b.) I was at one time responsible for working on the employment visas for my employer and we had an employee from there
c.) I know how to use Google
Want to know the requirements for Canada? I can do that too. -
07-21-2017, 01:38 PMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.Well the kid wasn't going to CanadaQuote:
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07-23-2017, 06:24 PMcbgRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
You kinda missed the point here. But since you seem to be missing a great many, I can't say I'm surprised.
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07-24-2017, 02:26 AMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
If they go to a country where marriage and consent laws state that 18 is the legal age with no exceptions, can you call the authorities in the country to report them and get them deported back to the US?
Also, if it turns out they're not married, can you report them to the authorities in the US if they go abroad? Because of the AOC and she's not 18? -
07-24-2017, 05:35 AMcbgRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
Okay, you really are missing the point.
MARRIED OR NOT, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ADMITTED TO ANY COUNTRY AS POTENTIAL RESIDENTS WITHOUT ABSOLUTE PROOF OF EMPLOYMENT. AND THAT MEANS SHOWING THE BORDER OFFICIAL THE JOB OFFER.
Failing showing proof of employment that the border official is able to confirm before he stamps their entry passes, they will alternately have to show proof of sufficient financial means to support themselves without assistance. This will also have to be proven before they are admitted to the country.
At best, and again this is married or not, they will be admitted to the other country, and this is true almost without exception, as tourists, who will have to return to the US within a matter of days or months (depending on what country you are talking about.)
So this is pretty much the last thing you need to be worrying about. I mean that literally. Worry about whether your kid is safe first. Then worry about whether or not they're married. Only after those are confirmed should you be worried about whether they've left the country.
If you are so out of touch with your child that you can't even find out if they're married or not, let alone whether they've left the country, once again I come back to - this is all about money.
You have two if not three related threads going, and in none of them have you explained why you think your child is married and outside the US. You might get answers that are more in tune with your specific situation and give you some real lines to follow, if you gave us more than base generalities. -
07-24-2017, 08:20 AMnamyaRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
They'd be there for a year, that is what I know. I don't know what parent would want that because its not the best country, and I do not feel like saying which.
I don't mean this in an offensive way, but can someone please answer the questions? I do not like explaining things. -
07-24-2017, 08:38 AMfree9manRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
You cannot simply GO to another country for a year. There are immigration requirements that must be met. "We're just coming to get away from my overbearing dad" isn't likely to land them a visa.
If you don't like explaining things, we can't help you.
You have been given answers to a myriad of questions but either a. ignore them or b. come up with a follow-on question/reword the original question.
You can report them to all the authorities anywhere you like, we can't say what if any action will take place.
Note that age of consent is only an issue if there is sex involved. If they deny there is any sex, no one is going to care. Depending on the age of the other party, no one is going to care. -
07-24-2017, 09:33 AMcbgRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.
I don't like explaining things either - not when I'm being asked to provide specific answers to generally vague questions.
I've done my best to give you the best information I can with what I have and you either reject it or misinterpret it. I'm done. Either you provide some specifics or you can go pay a lawyer to give you black and white answers to your vaguely grey questions. I'm done until we have some facts. -
07-24-2017, 09:58 AMDogmatiqueRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.Words. Fail.Quote:
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07-24-2017, 02:03 PMMark47nRe: What Happens if a Minor Moves Out of the U.S.But you do like wasting time, don't you?Quote:
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Based on the information provided, by you, the question has been answered. Since the information you provided boils down to less than a thimbleful of kitchen sponge squeezin's I'd say you got your question answered.
The answer boils down to "who knows?" since you've really provided nothing.