How to Stop Repeated Abuse Allegations

My question involves child abuse or neglect in the State of: PA

We are still getting repeated calls on us for child abuse. Now its being reported DAYS after we have custody of the child in question. The childs mother works for the CYS dept and has made repeated calls to cys on her past ex husbands. We know its her. What can we do? Its harassment at this point.

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Quoting Funnygrl20

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My question involves child abuse or neglect in the State of: PA

We are still getting repeated calls on us for child abuse. Now its being reported DAYS after we have custody of the child in question. The childs mother works for the CYS dept and has made repeated calls to cys on her past ex husbands. We know its her. What can we do? Its harassment at this point.

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There is obviously much more to this vague scenario - care to share? If not then it's unlikely anyone here can help you, as you really haven't provided much - if any - information in this post.

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Quoting eerelations

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There is obviously much more to this vague scenario - care to share? If not then it's unlikely anyone here can help you, as you really haven't provided much - if any - information in this post.

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Her posting history is... interesting.

Yes check out the post history. It's all there.

If you feel you are being harassed call the police. They will take it from other or do nothing. Talk to a lawyer. That's about it.

Posting history may be "interesting "to some but this is what we have delt w since January. CYS testified in court there is no abuse nor suspision yet calls keep coming in.
I will file.another harassment w DPS and now involve the cops.
She has involved cys in numerous occasions w her ex husband (2nd) as well so this is a pattern.
I have a career and kids of our own. I really just need resolution about this stuff.. its becoming an every week thing.

I don't know that there is much that the police can do about your suspicions. CYS is unlikely to give the police details of who is calling them, either. The state tends to protect confidentiality of such reports rather diligently in order to encourage legitimate complaints. If CYS is tiring of the complaints, they can circular file them or they can initiate action with law enforcement.

You can always check with an attorney and see if there is any hope of a successful lawsuit against her, but, again, you might have the same problem of obtaining proof that she is knowingly and intentionally making false claims against you. Proving that the reports are knowing and intentional falsehoods may not be as easy as showing they are wrong. Wrong is generally not actionable.

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I don't know that there is much that the police can do about your suspicions. CYS is unlikely to give the police details of who is calling them, either. The state tends to protect confidentiality of such reports rather diligently in order to encourage legitimate complaints. If CYS is tiring of the complaints, they can circular file them or they can initiate action with law enforcement.

You can always check with an attorney and see if there is any hope of a successful lawsuit against her, but, again, you might have the same problem of obtaining proof that she is knowingly and intentionally making false claims against you. Proving that the reports are knowing and intentional falsehoods may not be as easy as showing they are wrong. Wrong is generally not actionable.

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Thank you for this. I wrote the director of CYS in our county. Her ex husband (marriage # 2 of 4) who has been harassed by her through cys as well told me she got family and church people to call for her. Even went as far as making false sexual abuse allegations against him using her son from her first marriage which she never persued (he gave me copies of the expunged court case just in case). We think its her new husband calling considering hes the one his kids school named and saying the child tells.him.these things.
The courts just gave us more time than we had before so obviously the efforts didnt work. It just needs to stop.. period. Its becoming a pattern.

The problem you have is that you lack any real facts and are unlikely to obtain them, especially given the privacy associated with complaints to child protective agencies, and your supposition that the callers may be differing parties (which would be odd since it requires a conspiracy of deceit from multiple uninvolved parties). Making any criminal or civil complaint would be difficult, to say the least. About all you can probably do is voice your frustration with the powers that be at CYS and see where that takes things.

But, ultimately, everyone's hands may be tied. One day, perhaps, the caller(s) will get tired of calling, or CYS might actually act against them in some way. Until then, you may be left with the hope that the circular file becomes the regular depository for these complaints.

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The problem you have is that you lack any real facts and are unlikely to obtain them, especially given the privacy associated with complaints to child protective agencies, and your supposition that the callers may be differing parties (which would be odd since it requires a conspiracy of deceit from multiple uninvolved parties). Making any criminal or civil complaint would be difficult, to say the least. About all you can probably do is voice your frustration with the powers that be at CYS and see where that takes things.

But, ultimately, everyone's hands may be tied. One day, perhaps, the caller(s) will get tired of calling, or CYS might actually act against them in some way. Until then, you may be left with the hope that the circular file becomes the regular depository for these complaints.

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What is a "circular" file? Never heard of that. And the supposition isnt mine. Its her 2nd husbands since what we are going through she did exactly the same to.him. Even the CYS workers when they found out she did the same in the past said for us not to be suprised she escalates the situation to charges she brought up against her 2nd husband using her oldest child to do so (sexual).

I wrote the director of CYS in our county and asked for her to call to see if CYS can act against these calls. I only assume its her because she has tried to get myself my SO and her husbands ex wife all fired from our jobs making false claims to our supervisors directly and when theres smoke theres fire.

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What is a "circular" file? Never heard of that.

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It is a euphemism for a trash can.

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And the supposition isnt mine. Its her 2nd husbands since what we are going through she did exactly the same to.him. Even the CYS workers when they found out she did the same in the past said for us not to be suprised she escalates the situation to charges she brought up against her 2nd husband using her oldest child to do so (sexual).

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It is still supposition and not FACT. To successfully go before a judge and try to sue someone for making knowing and intentionally false complaints such that they constitute some sort of legal harm (slander/libel, harassment, etc.) you will have to have more than guesswork - even strong inference. Hence my suggestion to consult an attorney.

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I wrote the director of CYS in our county and asked for her to call to see if CYS can act against these calls. I only assume its her because she has tried to get myself my SO and her husbands ex wife all fired from our jobs making false claims to our supervisors directly and when theres smoke theres fire.

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Then you work with CYS and your own attorney as you must.

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Posting history may be "interesting "to some but this is what we have delt w since January. CYS testified in court there is no abuse nor suspision yet calls keep coming in.
I will file.another harassment w DPS and now involve the cops.
She has involved cys in numerous occasions w her ex husband (2nd) as well so this is a pattern.
I have a career and kids of our own. I really just need resolution about this stuff.. its becoming an every week thing.

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Posting history is interesting because it explains a lot of your situation that you didn't explain here for people who are new to the page.

You're not married to him right - so you can always leave if it's that bad.

We have a kid together and one on the way. His daughter is very attached to me and her brother. I will not do that to her. The judge said our home is more stable despite not being married (dont know why that matters-the marriage part- in court). Im not doing that to her given whats going on at moms w her step siblings and their dad.
The director got back to me and said to file w the cops. I will after the CYS guy calls my fiance back and we get more info... we got 4 more closure letters in the mail this am so..

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We have a kid together and one on the way. His daughter is very attached to me and her brother. I will not do that to her. The judge said our home is more stable despite not being married (dont know why that matters-the marriage part- in court). Im not doing that to her given whats going on at moms w her step siblings and their dad.
The director got back to me and said to file w the cops. I will after the CYS guy calls my fiance back and we get more info... we got 4 more closure letters in the mail this am so..

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There you go you got an answer.

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Quoting Funnygrl20

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We have a kid together and one on the way. His daughter is very attached to me and her brother. I will not do that to her. The judge said our home is more stable despite not being married (dont know why that matters-the marriage part- in court). Im not doing that to her given whats going on at moms w her step siblings and their dad.
The director got back to me and said to file w the cops. I will after the CYS guy calls my fiance back and we get more info... we got 4 more closure letters in the mail this am so..

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There you go you got an answer.

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Quoting Funnygrl20

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We have a kid together and one on the way. His daughter is very attached to me and her brother. I will not do that to her. The judge said our home is more stable despite not being married (dont know why that matters-the marriage part- in court). Im not doing that to her given whats going on at moms w her step siblings and their dad.
The director got back to me and said to file w the cops. I will after the CYS guy calls my fiance back and we get more info... we got 4 more closure letters in the mail this am so..

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There you go you got an answer.

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Quoting Funnygrl20

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The director got back to me and said to file w the cops. I will after the CYS guy calls my fiance back and we get more info... we got 4 more closure letters in the mail this am so..

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File WHAT with the police? What CRIME is being alleged?

I am not sure the police are going to be able to do a whole lot with this. I know that out in my state, there would be a wall of legal silence in trying to obtain records from our CPS, I imagine your CYS has similar legal barriers. So, if you talk to them, find out what information they are willing to hand over to the police and how they can help prove that the allegations were knowing and intentionally false.

Thats what i was thinking. I dont know what they would do but thats what the director said. Ill try to see what the caseworker tells my fiance. I mean this caseworker seems like he and the other caseworker we had w the other ones talked and they see whats going on..

Some states have laws against making false allegations to cps. But, this is not something you can use. It is up to cps and the DA. I'm not sure if your state has any such laws.

Not sure either. Investigator is coming monday to see her here w him. Does anyone know what info he is allowed to have? They said all they can give him is open and closure letters. Not sure if that is true or not.
Found it funny mom took her to the local amusement park day before these allegations were made and a full 3 days after we had her.. said there were marks on her chin.. funny mom posted pics of the day she took her and there isnt any.
I mean does CPS share info w the cops we are not allowed to have because the caseworker told us as well to file w the cops.