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You have no rights to this child until there is a legal determination of parentage. Until such time, you are not the legal father and not legally obligated for anything -- including financial support. Of course, ONCE the baby is born, you can immediately file for an order to establish paternity. So do NOT give her any money whatsoever!!!! Until such time, she is free to move wherever she wants. And if she moves out of the country, that makes it more difficult.
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You have no rights to this child until there is a legal determination of parentage. Until such time, you are not the legal father and not legally obligated for anything -- including financial support. Of course, ONCE the baby is born, you can immediately file for an order to establish paternity. So do NOT give her any money whatsoever!!!! Until such time, she is free to move wherever she wants. And if she moves out of the country, that makes it more difficult.
Just to add to this very good advice: You should get an attorney. It is possible to get a court order that she may not move or leave the country until the baby is born and paternity is determined. But this is something that you would need an attorney to handle for you. When the baby is born the STBX will be the legal father, so his paternity will have to be disestablished.
Good Luck!
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If you have enough money, and your lawyer is aggressive enough ( goes hand in hand ), you don't have to wait until after the baby is born, to determine paternity.
DNA tests can be done before birth.
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In which state can the father get court-ordered prenatal DNA testing against the mother's wishes?
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Hello,
Thank you all for the advice.
I do not believe the mother will object to paternity tests. I did not realize that you can do DNA testing prior to birth. I will speak to her doctor.
Prior to her moving out, I was paying for all health insurance costs for the birth. The doctor's office spread payments out over 5 months I believe and I already paid all of those. What are the consequences of this now? Obviously, at the time we were together and I was basically paying 100% of her upkeep, which included all her medical costs. Now that she has moved out, though she hasn't asked me to pay for anything yet, I know it is coming around the corner soon. She has already stated that she wants child support.
What should I do when she asks for money before the birth? Require her to get DNA testing on the child? How can I best set myself up for a custody case where I could possibly get physical custody?
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If you have enough money, and your lawyer is aggressive enough ( goes hand in hand ), you don't have to wait until after the baby is born, to determine paternity.
DNA tests can be done before birth.
Not without risking the safty of the baby, they can't!
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Judges tend to be more impressed with fathers who help and support their pregnant girlfriends than with those who don't. If you provide continuing support, it may improve your position when you get to court. At the same time, if the DNA test disproves paternity, you're unlikely to get the money back.
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Just to add to this very good advice: You should get an attorney. It is possible to get a court order that she may not move or leave the country until the baby is born and paternity is determined. But this is something that you would need an attorney to handle for you. When the baby is born the STBX will be the legal father, so his paternity will have to be disestablished.
Sorry for what may be a dumb question...but what is STBX?
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Judges tend to be more impressed with fathers who help and support their pregnant girlfriends than with those who don't. If you provide continuing support, it may improve your position when you get to court. At the same time, if the DNA test disproves paternity, you're unlikely to get the money back.
I'm not worried about not getting my money back.
What I am worried about is if me continuing to pay, and I do not gain primary physical custody, if the fact that I have been paying will affect child support calculations any.
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STBX=Soon To Be Ex(husband in this case)
If she told you that she will be going for child support, then she is admitting that the baby is yours.
The fact that you have been paying won't affect your future child support payments ( there are guidelines for those ), but it should show the judge that you are doing the right thing, and that will help in other areas ( in a prefect world anyway )
It's not going to be easy to get primary physical custody, it never is.
A 50/50 shared parenting plan will chop down child support payments(ussally), but you will still need to pay if she has primary physical.
Unless you can prove that she is an unfit Mother, or has some kind of mental illness that will put the child in harms way, you are in for a bumpy ride.
Try and talk some sense into her. If I was her husband, I sure as heck wouldn't want her to have that child in my home, and if she really is getting a divorce, where is she going to go? Try and reason with her. Ask her to give you primary custody until she gets settled. Who knows how long that will take, and it will take ALOT for the court to change physical custody back to her.
1st step my friend, get that DNA test ASAP. You may be spending thousands of $ for nothing if that child isn't yours. Not to mention the huge emotional roller coaster that will occur if the baby isn't yours.
I do applaud you for you willingness to do what's right. I wish there were more men like you (us) who will step up to the plate when needed to do so.
And to the poster that said prenatal DNA testing is putting the baby at risk, you are only 1/2 correct.
The same tests that are used to determine birth defects, also determine DNA.
An OB/GYN takes fluid from either the placenta or the amniotic fluid. A needle never touches the unborn child. A painless and non-invasive procedure.
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You need to stop suggesting that a judge is going to order amniocentesis to determine paternity of a fetus. There is not a single state where that will occur. Also, amniocentesis is invasive - a needle inserted through the abdomen into the uterus is an invasive procedure by any definition - and is not without risk. The risk of miscarriage from amniocentesis is estimated at 1:200 to 1:400.
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STBX=Soon To Be Ex(husband in this case)
If she told you that she will be going for child support, then she is admitting that the baby is yours.
I am unclear. What happnes in this scenario...
She gives birth to the baby, and she is still married to her husband. I am the biological father. Who is the legal father then? How is that established? Is it basically whoever signs the birth certificate? Or because of the fact that she is married, the husband by default becomes legal father. What if her husband is not willing to sign? What if I sign? I am just very confused as to how legal father is established. How does one go about "disestablishing" legal fatherhood from her husband and make me legal father?
I have been reading about non-invasive paternity tests from blood tests. I would agree to that, however, I will discourage any invasive paternity test. If a paternity test has to wait until after the birth, so be it.
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Arron,
Never once did I suggest a judge will order a pre natal DNA test.(although it is done)
Whats i said was "DNA tests can be done before birth." ( which is a fact obviously )
And,Dropshadow...
You can still be the legal parent of a child, whether or not the child's mom is married or not is irrelevant.
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And,Dropshadow...
You can still be the legal parent of a child, whether or not the child's mom is married or not is irrelevant.
No....The HUSBAND of the woman will be the LEGAL father until his paternity is disestablished and OP is established as the made. The day the baby is born OP can have his attorney file a request to establish him as father.
There is no OB/GYN that will do a perpartum DNA test. There is risk to the fetus and DNA can be done without risk after the baby is born. You must stop telling OP that it is an option....It is NOT!
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Never once did I suggest a judge will order a pre natal DNA test.(although it is done)
Whats i said was "DNA tests can be done before birth." ( which is a fact obviously )
This is what you said:
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If you have enough money, and your lawyer is aggressive enough ( goes hand in hand ), you don't have to wait until after the baby is born, to determine paternity.
DNA tests can be done before birth.
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Ok, I guess this thread is hijacked.
If DNA testing cant be done before the baby is born, then I don't know why it's a medical procedure. I don't know why there is literature on it, I guess it must all be made up.
I did some research using the first 3 sites that I googled.
If the Mother of the child puts the posters name on the birth certificate, how can her husband be considered the legal father? ( serious question, I was pretty sure whoevers name is on the BC, is the father, unless proved otherwise)
And, again, and for the last time, I never suggested a judge will/can order a prenatal DNA test. I said it "can be done"
I'm done with this thread, and I wish the OP good luck.
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Ok, I guess this thread is hijacked.
If DNA testing cant be done before the baby is born, then I don't know why it's a medical procedure.Brain surgery is a medical procedure also and has extreme risk its not to be set up lightly! I don't know why there is literature on it, I guess it must all be made up.Because it exist when its needed but it has its risk. By the way its not painless!
I did some research using the first 3 sites that I googled.
If the Mother of the child puts the posters name on the birth certificate, how can her husband be considered the legal father? ( serious question, I was pretty sure whoevers name is on the BC, is the father, unless proved otherwise)
And, again, and for the last time, I never suggested a judge will/can order a prenatal DNA test. I said it "can be done"
I'm done with this thread, and I wish the OP good luck.
Yes you did if you cant see that in your statement then well your blind