Re: What if a Police Chief Gave a Warning About Me but No Crime nor Threat Was Commit
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cdwjava
That might come as a surprise to the officers and other attorneys in your state. What state would that be?
Absent a law that prohibits a city/county employee from "warning" a person about another person, such action is generally not going to be a violation of law, though it MIGHT be a violation of policy. The devil is in the details - something you have not provided to us.
So, if this attorney has advised you the Chief or someone else broke the law, he has agreed to represent you on contingency when you sue the city, right? :rolleyes:
Where is a law that says a police Chief can tell someone to warn another person about someone else for no legal reason? It is a lie for someone to give a warning about another without that person having committed a crime, surprise. You are just a retired police officer, so for you to give a response just oozes favoritism in similar ways that are comparable to Hitler.
Re: What if a Police Chief Gave a Warning About Me but No Crime nor Threat Was Commit
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Jack Doe
Where is a law that says a police Chief can tell someone to warn another person about someone else for no legal reason? It is a lie for someone to give a warning about another without that person having committed a crime, surprise. You are just a retired police officer, so for you to give a response just oozes favoritism in similar ways that are comparable to Hitler.
Absent a law that prohibits an action, it tends to be permitted. So, find me the law that PROHIBITS the action.
And you still did not answer me as to whether the attorney was going to represent you on cotingency during the lawsuit. I'm guessing, "No."
Oh,and when you invoke Godwin's Law (look it up) you have invoked the final refuge of a weak mind. (And I am much more than a "retired police officer".)
Have a drink - and don't drive, and relax. De-stress. You're getting too strung out over nothing. Heck, this isn't even your thread!
Re: What if a Police Chief Gave a Warning About Me but No Crime nor Threat Was Commit
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cdwjava
Absent a law that prohibits an action, it tends to be permitted. So, find me the law that PROHIBITS the action.
It is called defamation law of slander which is a spoken lie, so show me a law that says police officers can lie about innocent people. In defamation law, the person telling the lie gets a chance to sign a letter of retraction and that is what will happen in my case but you were just a law enforcement officer and teacher, so you would not have experience representing people in court and why are you on this website typing your irrelevant opinions?
Re: What if a Police Chief Gave a Warning About Me but No Crime nor Threat Was Commit
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Jack Doe
It is called defamation law of slander which is a spoken lie, so show me a law that says police officers can lie about innocent people. In defamation law, the person telling the lie gets a chance to sign a letter of retraction and that is what will happen in my case but you were just a law enforcement officer and teacher, so you would not have experience representing people in court and why are you on this website typing your irrelevant opinions?
<sigh> You don't know much about it, it appears.
In what state did this happen? What was stated? What are your actual damages?
Once more,the devil is in the details. All because someone says something about you that you do not like does not necessarily make it slander. And, even if it is, in some states there are no statutory damages for slander and you'd have to prove actual harm, not a bruised ego.
If you believe you have a case, you can hire an attorney to pursue it. Understand that it might cost you about $20,000 just to step up and play, but, it's your money.
Re: Can the Police Warn Somebody About You if You Haven't Committed a Crime
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Jack Doe
I was later informed by a person that a parent of the employee told them how the Chief advised them to warn a separate person (who was named in my e-mail) about me, but I never made a statement of a threat toward that individual nor did I commit a crime....
1. How do I find out exactly what the Chief of Police said?
You are in communication with the person to whom the chief's statement was supposedly made, so ask that person. You can also ask the chief. But unless somebody else was in the room, you need to find out from one of them.
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If the Chief did tell the parent of the employee to warn an individual, that I mentioned in the e-mail, about me. Is it legal to tell one person to warn another person about a third person if someone never committed a crime nor threat?
Yes.
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Should I keep the e-mail for the rest of my life so they do not modify it to frame me?
You can do what you would like with the email. Save it, print it, frame it and hang it on your wall, freeze it in carbonite....
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Jack Doe
But the Chief told a lie, he said nothing would happen but then he told someone to warn someone about me with no probable cause, so that is legal?
Yes. The police can legally lie to you. They get a lot of confessions that way.
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however, his statement ruined my reputation with my parents
The chief didn't say anything to your parents. If your parents no longer trust you because they heard it through the grapevine that the police chief made some sort of nebulous, undefined warning about you, it's safe to say that you laid the groundwork for that distrust over a period of years.
Re: What if a Police Chief Gave a Warning About Me but No Crime nor Threat Was Commit
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Jack Doe
In defamation law, the person telling the lie gets a chance to sign a letter of retraction and that is what will happen in my case but you were just a law enforcement officer and teacher, so you would not have experience representing people in court and why are you on this website typing your irrelevant opinions?
Defamation law varies a bit from state to state and so far I have not seen where you posted the state. But some parts of defamation law are the same in each state. One of those is that in order to constitute defamation, the statement made must be a false statement of fact about you to another person which damages your reputation. So far in this thread all I have seen you say is the police chief “warned” his employee about you. But you have not stated what exactly the police chief said and it appears that you do not know what he said. Yet despite not knowing what was said, you have jumped to the conclusions that (1) the police chief lied and (2) that the statement he made to his employee was defamatory. Yet it is quite possible that neither of those two conclusions are correct. What was the warning that he gave the employee? For example, if the warning to the employee was to tread carefully when dealing with you because you might make more complaints to the chief then that warning is not any kind of lie (i.e. false statement of fact) nor is it defamatory. So before you go off spouting claims like the police chief lied and defamed you, you really ought to first get all the facts, especially what it is that the chief said. Without that information, you are merely speculating as to what the warning was about, and obviously that doesn’t really get you anywhere.