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  • 02-14-2017, 01:57 PM
    budwad
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
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    They can't get into the country, you seem to not understand what is going on. They have already been vetted. This happened when the visa was issued. Again, the courts found the impact of the stay remaining to be more persuasive than the impact of ending it.

    And with a little delay, they were let into the country. Weren't they? Nobody was denied counsel.

    The 9th Circuit court is the most liberal court in the country and is overturned 80% of the time. Not a liberal leaning panel?
  • 02-14-2017, 02:00 PM
    geek
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
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    And with a little delay, they were let into the country. Weren't they? Nobody was denied counsel.

    The 9th Circuit court is the most liberal court in the country and is overturned 80% of the time. Not a liberal leaning panel?

    You wrote that almost line for line from the Gateway Pundit- a conservative blog. Do you have facts to back up that assertion?

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...erage-80-time/

    Let's see what the Supreme Court has to say about the case.
  • 02-14-2017, 02:03 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
    I'm just going to leave this here ...

    http://www.snopes.com/ninth-circuit-...=1486827461949
  • 02-14-2017, 02:07 PM
    free9man
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
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    I'm just going to leave this here ...

    http://www.snopes.com/ninth-circuit-...=1486827461949

    You've done it now. Everyone knows Snopes is a tool of the liberal left. :rolleyes:
  • 02-14-2017, 02:12 PM
    budwad
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
    This is not going to the Supreme Court. The Trump administration is not playing that game (to their credit with a justice missing on the bench). They will reissue the executive order and take all the 9th's BS into account.

    No, I don't read blogs, conservative or otherwise. Apparently you do. Do you have any fact to back up that the 9th is not the most liberal court?

    The fact is that Trump won the election and is the president. Now you may hate that idea or love it. It is as plain on your face that what you think is through your rose colored glasses one way or the other.

    No sense arguing about it. Time will tell. Twenty seven days and counting.
  • 02-14-2017, 02:17 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
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    This is not going to the Supreme Court. The Trump administration is not playing that game (to their credit with a justice missing on the bench). They will reissue the executive order and take all the 9th's BS into account.

    No, I don't read blogs, conservative or otherwise. Apparently you do. Do you have any fact to back up that the 9th is not the most liberal court?

    The fact is that Trump won the election and is the president. Now you may hate that idea or love it. It is as plain on your face that what you think is through your rose colored glasses one way or the other.

    No sense arguing about it. Time will tell. Twenty seven days and counting.

    Do some fact-checking. And I don't mean "alternative facts".

    It doesn't appear that we're wearing the rose-coloured glasses; we're still laughing at the "Bowling Green massacre" that never was.

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    You've done it now. Everyone knows Snopes is a tool of the liberal left. :rolleyes:

    Oh, snap. I keep forgetting.
  • 02-14-2017, 02:29 PM
    geek
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
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    Quoting budwad
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    This is not going to the Supreme Court. The Trump administration is not playing that game (to their credit with a justice missing on the bench). They will reissue the executive order and take all the 9th's BS into account.

    No, I don't read blogs, conservative or otherwise. Apparently you do. Do you have any fact to back up that the 9th is not the most liberal court?

    The fact is that Trump won the election and is the president. Now you may hate that idea or love it. It is as plain on your face that what you think is through your rose colored glasses one way or the other.

    No sense arguing about it. Time will tell. Twenty seven days and counting.

    And already, mired in scandal. Better not turn on the TV.

    By the way, he seems to think it's going to the Supreme Court.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Quv_ZWAAQxrF8.jpg
  • 02-14-2017, 02:40 PM
    budwad
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
    It's typical that a liberal will get off point because they don't want to be confused by facts or logic. They are an emotional bunch convinced that they are correct and everyone else is wrong.

    You know that there is a difference between subjective and objective reality. A liberal lives in a subjective reality. There is no getting them out of it. Objective reality is independent of a subjective reality. Objectivity is what it is independent of what someone may think. The truth exists regardless of interpretation.

    The philosophy of subjective and objective realities is probably over some of your pay grades. Your opinion doesn't change a thing. You could always read from some of the philosophers and broaden your outlook. But how would that comport with your present self image?

    Not directed at any one in particular but just a statement of how I see the world.
  • 02-14-2017, 02:55 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
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    It's typical that a liberal will get off point because they don't want to be confused by facts or logic. They are an emotional bunch convinced that they are correct and everyone else is wrong.

    You know that there is a difference between subjective and objective reality. A liberal lives in a subjective reality. There is no getting them out of it. Objective reality is independent of a subjective reality. Objectivity is what it is independent of what someone may think. The truth exists regardless of interpretation.

    The philosophy of subjective and objective realities is probably over your pay grades. Your opinion doesn't change a thing. You could always read from some of the philosophers and broaden your outlook. But how would that comport with your present self image?

    Not directed at any one in particular but just a statement of how I see the world.

    10/10 for passive-aggressive tantrum! Excellent job. Well done, you!
  • 02-14-2017, 03:06 PM
    budwad
    Re: Inquiry of Trump's Travel Ban - Curiousity
    You make my point. Thank you.:friendly_wink:
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