Seeking a Change of Custody After the Custodial Parent Filed a False Police Report

The defendant gave the police false court orders the judge never issued. She told the police my parenting was to be at my mother's house and supervised. Police came into my home and searched me during my visition. Her lawyer lied in a response to fail to comply with a court order and said my visitation was ordered to be at my mother's house after the ref told them no and modified my parenting time for an increase.
I just filed for a change of custody due to this. How much trouble are they in ? Should I file a lawsuit also and seek damages?

What?

Why what ? It happened. It's on police record and in her lawyers motions. It's black and white.

I don't see a change of custody for this, no.

Not even close.

I don't see how not. Giving false informotion and violating my parenting time. That should be a crime.

Espically when my order states clearly I' don't need to be supervised and the order was never issued.

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I don't see how not. Giving false informotion and violating my parenting time. That should be a crime.

Espically when my order states clearly I' don't need to be supervised and the order was never issued.

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Do you want accurate information or do you want us to tell you what you want to hear?

That is no where near enough to change custody. If you were on your 5th trip to court to hold mom in contempt for doing something similar you might have grounds for a change in custody, but with a first time violation, even if she lied? Nope.

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Why what ? It happened. It's on police record and in her lawyers motions. It's black and white.

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I said "what?" because it didn't make any sense to me. That's usually why someone says "what?"

So you're ex gave the police fake court orders? Really? Then her lawyer was in on this weird conspiracy? What is a ref?

Agreed you will not get a change in custody based on this bit of information. Why would you?

You can file any lawsuit you want - it doesn't mean you will win nor get anything if you do win.

OP needs to understand that in family court parents are pretty much expected to lie about something or other at some point during the proceedings. Perjury - which must typically be deliberate, not incidental - is rarely prosecuted in criminal cases and virtually never in family law cases.

I would imagine the OP's general demeanor isn't going to help him, either.

"How much trouble are they going to be in" is a hard attitude to disguise, and one which sends off the wrong vibe to a family law judge; it screams "revenge revenge revenge" with nary a whisper of "what's actually best for the CHILD?".

There is a lot more but this is the biggest facotor. She default anyway.

It's the biggest factor because it's definitely provable.

Dude - try to write intelligibly, please.

Unless you have taken Mom to court repeatedly AND she has been found in contempt - you're not going to get a change in custody.

I hope you have a lawyer.

No this is not a first time violation. She defaulted every hearing for almost the past two years. And she does have warnings for contempt to fail to comply. I filed for 50 50 custody not full custody. I sated I want reduced support and sole custody due to her poor decisions. That the child was removed from my home without due process and she is attempting to have me pay for all medical when I already paid for what I was ordered to oay. I told them to pay for half and the refuse. The defendant has a suicidal mental health record as well which she has already been arrested for once and sent to mental health hospitals. The defendant has not found me not fit and not guilty of a crime and refuses to coperate. What I had mentioned in my first post was just to see what other people think of it but it is definitely a crime that what I mentioned in first post. We are heading in a new direction in court.

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No this is not a first time violation. She defaulted every hearing for almost the past two years. And she does have warnings for contempt to fail to comply. I filed for 50 50 custody not full custody. I sated I want reduced support and sole custody due to her poor decisions. That the child was removed from my home without due process and she is attempting to have me pay for all medical when I already paid for what I was ordered to oay. I told them to pay for half and the refuse. The defendant has a suicidal mental health record as well which she has already been arrested for once and sent to mental health hospitals. The defendant has not found me not fit and not guilty of a crime and refuses to coperate. What I had mentioned in my first post was just to see what other people think of it but it is definitely a crime that what I mentioned in first post. We are heading in a new direction in court.

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Get an attorney - because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and you're going to completely sink yourself in court. Most of the above is complete nonsense.

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No this is not a first time violation. She defaulted every hearing for almost the past two years. And she does have warnings for contempt to fail to comply. I filed for 50 50 custody not full custody. I sated I want reduced support and sole custody due to her poor decisions. That the child was removed from my home without due process and she is attempting to have me pay for all medical when I already paid for what I was ordered to oay. I told them to pay for half and the refuse. The defendant has a suicidal mental health record as well which she has already been arrested for once and sent to mental health hospitals. The defendant has not found me not fit and not guilty of a crime and refuses to coperate. What I had mentioned in my first post was just to see what other people think of it but it is definitely a crime that what I mentioned in first post. We are heading in a new direction in court.

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No one understood your first post!!!!! No one understands ANY of your posts.

HE doesn't understand any of his posts.

I'm on my phone and I am not sure how anyone does not understand this. The parent is not a fit parent. Nobody here is above the law. You can't make up orders to have police rad your house. The mother is not fit. Maybe it's you guys who need to do more research. I have talked with many lawyers and officers. I don't need a lawyer. I just like to ask around. The mother has mental health issues and so on. The mother is not fit. I had a lawyer and I'll get one when I need it. This is the only site I have been to who talks down on people. I won't be back here. It's hard to belive you guys don't even understand the term default. It doesn't matter about what I posted because she defaulted. I think you guys are wrong and we will find out soon. I won't be back to this site. Do not worry. You guys should learn your constitutional rights a bit more before talking to other people. There's a lot bigger things here going on than you guys relize. I do not care if I made a few typos. Have a good
Day everyone

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I'm on my phone and I am not sure how anyone does not understand this. The parent is not a fit parent. Nobody here is above the law. You can't make up orders to have police rad your house. The mother is not fit. Maybe it's you guys who need to do more research. I have talked with many lawyers and officers. I don't need a lawyer. I just like to ask around. The mother has mental health issues and so on. The mother is not fit. I had a lawyer and I'll get one when I need it. This is the only site I have been to who talks down on people. I won't be back here. It's hard to belive you guys don't even understand the term default. It doesn't matter about what I posted because she defaulted. I think you guys are wrong and we will find out soon. I won't be back to this site. Do not worry. You guys should learn your constitutional rights a bit more before talking to other people. There's a lot bigger things here going on than you guys relize. I do not care if I made a few typos. Have a good
Day everyone

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You do not understand what the definition of an unfit parent is. You are describing a parent who is unfair and mean to the other parent. You are not describing a parent who is unfit.

Are your children fed, clothed, housed, loved and cared for when they are with their mother? If so, she is not unfit. She may deserve to have her backside handed to her by a judge for not obeying the court orders, but she is not unfit.

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I'm on my phone and I am not sure how anyone does not understand this. The parent is not a fit parent. Nobody here is above the law. You can't make up orders to have police rad your house. The mother is not fit. Maybe it's you guys who need to do more research. I have talked with many lawyers and officers. I don't need a lawyer. I just like to ask around. The mother has mental health issues and so on. The mother is not fit. I had a lawyer and I'll get one when I need it. This is the only site I have been to who talks down on people. I won't be back here. It's hard to belive you guys don't even understand the term default. It doesn't matter about what I posted because she defaulted. I think you guys are wrong and we will find out soon. I won't be back to this site. Do not worry. You guys should learn your constitutional rights a bit more before talking to other people. There's a lot bigger things here going on than you guys relize. I do not care if I made a few typos. Have a good
Day everyone

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Dude this is your original post: "The defendant gave the police false court orders the judge never issued. She told the police my parenting was to be at my mother's house and supervised. Police came into my home and searched me during my visition. Her lawyer lied in a response to fail to comply with a court order and said my visitation was ordered to be at my mother's house after the ref told them no and modified my parenting time for an increase.
I just filed for a change of custody due to this. How much trouble are they in ? Should I file a lawsuit also and seek damages? "

None of that is intelligible. It's poorly written. You give no backstory on how you go to this point. There is no information for anyone to give you any reasonable guidance.

First you give one instance where I guess she gave them "fake" court orders. That she lied to the police or something and that her lawyer lied. Then you say later on (in another poorly written and worded statement) that she has missed the last two years of court dates. Okay so why didn't you do something sooner and why hasn't this been resolved if she was in default?

No you are the one who needs to tell us the ENTIRE story. If you have a lawyer then why the f* are you on here? Talk to your lawyer(s). What officers?

Oh no this is not the only site that "talks down" to people and no one "talked down" to you. We asked you to explain yourself and then said you need to get a lawyer.

You didn't originally say anything about default. Are you mentally challenged in any way? I'm not being mean I'm asking as a serious question. There were no 'typos.' Nothing you said is coherent in any way.

Who determined her "unfit?" When? Then how do you not have sole custody if she was determined unfit via default two years ago? Your story is missing a LOT of info.

Oh I know exactly what a default judgment means. That's how my divorce hearings ended because my ex husband never showed up to court. So I got sole legal and physical custody and parenting time is at my discretion as he did not do the online parenting class. So I do know what default means. Thank you very much.

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I'm on my phone and I am not sure how anyone does not understand this. The parent is not a fit parent. Nobody here is above the law. You can't make up orders to have police rad your house. The mother is not fit. Maybe it's you guys who need to do more research. I have talked with many lawyers and officers. I don't need a lawyer. I just like to ask around. The mother has mental health issues and so on. The mother is not fit. I had a lawyer and I'll get one when I need it. This is the only site I have been to who talks down on people. I won't be back here. It's hard to belive you guys don't even understand the term default. It doesn't matter about what I posted because she defaulted. I think you guys are wrong and we will find out soon. I won't be back to this site. Do not worry. You guys should learn your constitutional rights a bit more before talking to other people. There's a lot bigger things here going on than you guys relize. I do not care if I made a few typos. Have a good
Day everyone

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You're behaving like a complete fool and yes, you're going to absolutely tank yourself in court if you don't check yourself. You have no idea what you're talking about, and we've forgotten more about the Constitution than you'll ever know.

Be sure to pick up your refund on the way out.

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No this is not a first time violation. She defaulted every hearing for almost the past two years. And she does have warnings for contempt to fail to comply. I filed for 50 50 custody not full custody. I sated I want reduced support and sole custody due to her poor decisions. That the child was removed from my home without due process and she is attempting to have me pay for all medical when I already paid for what I was ordered to oay. I told them to pay for half and the refuse. The defendant has a suicidal mental health record as well which she has already been arrested for once and sent to mental health hospitals. The defendant has not found me not fit and not guilty of a crime and refuses to coperate. What I had mentioned in my first post was just to see what other people think of it but it is definitely a crime that what I mentioned in first post. We are heading in a new direction in court.

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This is an example. You said you filed for 50/50 not full custody. Then you wanted reduced support and sole custody. You don't seem to understand even the most basic of concepts and you think we're all wrong. Laughable, if it wasn't so tragic.

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You're behaving like a complete fool and yes, you're going to absolutely tank yourself in court if you don't check yourself. You have no idea what you're talking about, and we've forgotten more about the Constitution than you'll ever know.

Be sure to pick up your refund on the way out.



This is an example. You said you filed for 50/50 not full custody. Then you wanted reduced support and sole custody. You don't seem to understand even the most basic of concepts and you think we're all wrong. Laughable, if it wasn't so tragic.

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I understand a bit actually. You guys stated it was not enough. So I stated what and why I filed. I'm not going to get sinked in court. It was not taken care of two years ago because I gave her a chance and stipulated after she got arrested. She attempted suicide which started of with allegations towards the plaintiff which is me. It is still relevant today due to the fact the allegations have not stoped yet. I know precisely what I am talking about. I stated in my original post that I filed for a change of custody but did not give full details. You guys started complaining so I gave you details. It's pretty simple to understand and not underestimated. I chose 50 50 because my chances would be higher than taking full custody. I already know I am doing the right than. Iffy she looses it's her own fault. She does not want to go to court. This thread is not hard to understand just miss conception.
I started simple.

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I understand a bit actually. You guys stated it was not enough. So I stated what and why I filed. I'm not going to get sinked in court. It was not taken care of two years ago because I gave her a chance and stipulated after she got arrested. She attempted suicide which started of with allegations towards the plaintiff which is me. It is still relevant today due to the fact the allegations have not stoped yet. I know precisely what I am talking about. I stated in my original post that I filed for a change of custody but did not give full details. You guys started complaining so I gave you details. It's pretty simple to understand and not underestimated. I chose 50 50 because my chances would be higher than taking full custody. I already know I am doing the right than. Iffy she looses it's her own fault. She does not want to go to court. This thread is not hard to understand just miss conception.
I started simple.

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Yes, of course.

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I understand a bit actually. You guys stated it was not enough. So I stated what and why I filed. I'm not going to get sinked in court. It was not taken care of two years ago because I gave her a chance and stipulated after she got arrested. She attempted suicide which started of with allegations towards the plaintiff which is me. It is still relevant today due to the fact the allegations have not stoped yet. I know precisely what I am talking about. I stated in my original post that I filed for a change of custody but did not give full details. You guys started complaining so I gave you details. It's pretty simple to understand and not underestimated. I chose 50 50 because my chances would be higher than taking full custody. I already know I am doing the right than. Iffy she looses it's her own fault. She does not want to go to court. This thread is not hard to understand just miss conception.
I started simple.

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No you started with nothing. Vague comments. That was it.

Who is Miss Conception?

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No you started with nothing. Vague comments. That was it.

Who is Miss Conception?

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Mrs. Conception's daughter, of course.

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Mrs. Conception's daughter, of course.

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:/

Not a full on lol but a smirk out of that one.

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No you started with nothing. Vague comments. That was it.

Who is Miss Conception?

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Wanted to see how far I could get with just that. I already knew I had enough. I had wanted to see How far it could go with only that and that's it. However now it's all out.

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Wanted to see how far I could get with just that. I already knew I had enough. I had wanted to see How far it could go with only that and that's it. However now it's all out.

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What are you talking about? No you knew you had nothing and then tried to add on. If you have a lawyer then talk to him/her. Or ask Miss Conception.

What STATE is all this drama happening in?

You're going to get "sinked" big time.

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What STATE is all this drama happening in?

You're going to get "sinked" big time.

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Considering how young my daughter is. I already have more than most fathers. I get granted a bit. It's not anything new.

No I won't get sinked. You guys can't scare me.

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Considering how young my daughter is. I already have more than most fathers. I get granted a bit. It's not anything new.

No I won't get sinked. You guys can't scare me.

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This is in michigan state court. One of the toughest states to modify / change custody.

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Considering how young my daughter is. I already have more than most fathers. I get granted a bit. It's not anything new.

No I won't get sinked. You guys can't scare me.



This is in michigan state court. One of the toughest states to modify / change custody.

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I'm also stating now so you guys fully understand what level I am willing to take this to. That's it's a constitutional right to have at least 50 50 custody if your not found guilty of a crime and if your you are a fit parent. There is something called due process that is violating our constitutional rights. The Constitution has not been forgotten. People just refuse to use it in such a way it tends to be forgotten about. However it's not forgotten about. There a lot of stuff people tend to over look. If you want to win anything. You go big or go home. Us fathers and mothers do have equal rights. However most parents fight so much it tends to get over looked. There is no getting sinked. Worsted case scenario the mother looses her case and that's her own fault.

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Considering how young my daughter is. I already have more than most fathers. I get granted a bit. It's not anything new.

No I won't get sinked. You guys can't scare me.



This is in michigan state court. One of the toughest states to modify / change custody.



I'm also stating now so you guys fully understand what level I am willing to take this to. That's it's a constitutional right to have at least 50 50 custody if your not found guilty of a crime and if your you are a fit parent. There is something called due process that is violating our constitutional rights. The Constitution has not been forgotten. People just refuse to use it in such a way it tends to be forgotten about. However it's not forgotten about. There a lot of stuff people tend to over look. If you want to win anything. You go big or go home. Us fathers and mothers do have equal rights. However most parents fight so much it tends to get over looked. There is no getting sinked. Worsted case scenario the mother looses her case and that's her own fault.

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No, there is no constitutional right to at least 50/50 custody. First, custody matters are state matters not federal ones (under the US constitution), and state laws already outline very thoroughly what standards are used to determine initial custody, and then what standards are necessary to modify custody after the fact.

Parents do have federally protected rights where their children are concerned, but that is federal protection against the government or any other third party, be that third party a relative or someone similar. That does not apply when the two parties are both parents...that is where state law kicks in.

Whoever told you that your hae a constitutional right to 50/50 custody has mislead you seriously.

Yeah, you're right, you aren't going to get "sinked", you're going to get POUNDED.

Get a lawyer.

I gotta give it to you guys for being so patient with this guy.

I can only imagine what Mom had to put up with.

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Considering how young my daughter is. I already have more than most fathers. I get granted a bit. It's not anything new.

No I won't get sinked. You guys can't scare me.



This is in michigan state court. One of the toughest states to modify / change custody.



I'm also stating now so you guys fully understand what level I am willing to take this to. That's it's a constitutional right to have at least 50 50 custody if your not found guilty of a crime and if your you are a fit parent. There is something called due process that is violating our constitutional rights. The Constitution has not been forgotten. People just refuse to use it in such a way it tends to be forgotten about. However it's not forgotten about. There a lot of stuff people tend to over look. If you want to win anything. You go big or go home. Us fathers and mothers do have equal rights. However most parents fight so much it tends to get over looked. There is no getting sinked. Worsted case scenario the mother looses her case and that's her own fault.

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Why do you keep quoting yourself?

Wow we got a live one here people. No one has forgotten the Constitution. If that were so we'd be in total anarchy. This is just a hopeless post at this point...