Falsely Accused of Grand Theft of a Motor Vehicle

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Quoting Anonomous1

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The DA was just voted out... I believe this is just a case they filed to fill the dockets for the new DA

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I guess time will tell.

You have to realize that filing charges against a person where there is no PC to support the charge is a serious problem for a prosecutor (like in prosecutorial misconduct) . Due to that, apparently a court or grand jury has seen PC in the matter. How strong or weak the case is is likely to move the da one way or another. I would expect a plea bargain offered.

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Quoting Anonomous1

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Any capable Judge will throw this out.

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Is that before or after the judge hits you with insurance fraud?

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Quoting Who'sThatGuy

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Is that before or after the judge hits you with insurance fraud?

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Please explain how theres any insurance fraud here?

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Quoting Anonomous1

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Please explain how theres any insurance fraud here?

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Tell us why you put the vehicle in your name and signed the title over to the rightful owner?

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Quoting Anonomous1

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The DA was just voted out... I believe this is just a case they filed to fill the dockets for the new DA

How am I nuts?
The state has no evidence whatsoever...
It's only a case of "he said she said".
I have proof I owned the vehicle a couple days prior to the incident. Also it's even in the affidavit that it was a take home vehicle and I had full permission to use it.
When I left with the vehicle I thought it was still under my ownership and legally owned, tagged, and insured by myself.
Additionally I had a vested interest in the vehicle since I had thousands of dollars of equipment and parts in it.

Any capable Judge will throw this out.

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What evidence do they have? Your confession to start with.

Permission to take the vehicle home was rescinded. You said that yourself. You continued to deprive the owner of his vehicle after that. On top of that you told the cop you intended to deprive the owner of his vehicle until you were ready to relinquish it but even then you said the owner could go pick it up from some place other than where it was during the discussion

and if you believed it to be your truck, why would you even give it back to the other guy? That alone proves you did not believe you owned the vehicle. People do not give their vehicles to others. They say; it's my truck. I sure as hell am not going to give my truck to somebody that just fired me (or whatever nasty thing he said to seperate the relationship)

As as to a judge throwing it out; it's already beyond that point. It sounds like it will be decided in trial. The chance for the judge to toss it was at the probable cause hearing. I presume that has already taken place given the time elapsed since the event.

You did not have a vested interest in the vehicle. You had personal property in the vehicle. You could have unloaded it and went on your way but instead you took his van. If he had prevented you from taking your tools you could have reported that to the police and the tables might very well be the other way around.


No you do not have proof you owned the vehicle s couple days before the incident (if it actually mattered which it doesn't). You said you signed the title over to the owner months ago. That is when ownership was conveyed to him.

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Quoting Who'sThatGuy

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Tell us why you put the vehicle in your name and signed the title over to the rightful owner?

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And continued to allow your insurance company to believe you still owned the van and why it was not reported to the employers insurance company that you had in fact transferred ownership back to the employer.

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Quoting jk

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And continued to allow your insurance company to believe you still owned the van and why it was not reported to the employers insurance company that you had in fact transferred ownership back to the employer.

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Correct jk, misrepresentation, is a form of insurance fraud.

At his request the title was signed open and given back to him in case I was killed in a car wreck or some unforseen circumstance where I could not sign the title over.

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Quoting Who'sThatGuy

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Correct jk, misrepresentation, is a form of insurance fraud.

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Can you guys not read? Already stated that I did not know it was titled, re-registered and tagged without my knowledge.
Therefore no fraud committed

No we can read, its that we also read between the lines. You're commuting fraud PERIOD. You didn't sign over the title in case you died, you make a will for that. You signed over the title to him because he is the rightful owner and by that you deprived an insurance company and committed fraud.

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Quoting Who'sThatGuy

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No we can read, its that we also read between the lines. You're commuting fraud PERIOD. You didn't sign over the title in case you died, you make a will for that. You signed over the title to him because he is the rightful owner and by that you deprived an insurance company and committed fraud.

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Please stop posting in here.. your stupidity is nauseating.

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Quoting Anonomous1

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At his request the title was signed open and given back to him in case I was killed in a car wreck or some unforseen circumstance where I could not sign the title over.

Can you guys not read? Already stated that I did not know it was titled, re-registered and tagged without my knowledge.
Therefore no fraud committed

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Can you not read;

when you signed the title and delivered it to him, you relinquished any claim of ownership. It doesn't matter if he registered the titled and especially makes no difference that he registered is and tagged it. You knew you signed the title and delivered it to him

you also have not addressed my statement of if you believed the van to be yours, why would you relinquish possession to the guy you just had a fight with? That alone is condemning. Nobody gives up their property to a guy they just had a fight with. Remember, you are the one claiming a right to take the van because it had your tools in it. You weren't willing to retrieve the tools at a later date. Why would you give away a van you believed to be yours?

Do you think when a person sells a car and signs the title and delivers it to the buyer ownership stays with the seller until some subsequent action takes place? Nope. The buyer has equitable title the moment the deal is completed.