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  • 03-15-2016, 07:27 PM
    Bradhammond
    Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Tests Before Allowing Visitation
    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Ohio
    Does the custodial mother have to show just cause in order to request a hair follicle test of the father in a hearing or mediation to set up visitation ? The mother has not allowed the father nor any of his family to visit or talk to the child in question. This is not a custody issue, this is strictly for visitation
  • 03-15-2016, 07:42 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Father's Visitation Rights
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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Ohio
    Does the custodial mother have to show just cause in order to request a hair follicle test of the father in a hearing or mediation to set up visitation ? The mother has not allowed the father nor any of his family to visit or talk to the child in question. This is not a custody issue, this is strictly for visitation

    She needs a reason to ask that the court allows her to insist on a negative drug test before court ordered visitation takes place; the court wants more than her word that Dad is using.

    If there is no visitation order in place, she can do just about whatever the heck she wants.
  • 03-16-2016, 05:23 AM
    Ohiogal
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Ohio
    Does the custodial mother have to show just cause in order to request a hair follicle test of the father in a hearing or mediation to set up visitation ? The mother has not allowed the father nor any of his family to visit or talk to the child in question. This is not a custody issue, this is strictly for visitation

    She can ask. If dad has a history of drug use or any convictions for drugs, she will get it. And yes, that is for visitation.
  • 03-16-2016, 10:29 AM
    Bradhammond
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
    The father has no drug convictions, nor has he ever even been charged with a drug charge. He may have a DUI from 3 or more years back. The mother had originally complained that the father had threatened her and that he had a gun. The police came and asked for his gun, which he got out and gave to them,( the gun was disassembled ), He has since gotten the gun released back to him. At the time of this incident, the mother went and got a restraining order which was for 2 years and has been completed. The mother is just a vengeful person and has refused to let the father see his child as well as not allowing anyone else in the father's family see the child or even talk to the child on the phone.

    Thank you. She has no real reason to request testing and is just a hateful person. There is also a taped conversion regarding the mother taking the child,(10 yrs old), to a pornographic movie rated R and three times in the conversation she denies taking the child. Then she slips up and says---he/she thought it was hilarious. She then admitted 2 more times that she had taken the child. The woman is sick.
  • 03-16-2016, 10:48 AM
    free9man
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
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    to a pornographic movie rated R

    There are no "pornographic movies" that are rated R. There can be R-rated movies with content you object to but not R-rated pornos. She is free to take her child to any movie that the theater will let her. I know for some R-rated movies theaters enforce an age limit where you can't even get in with a parent/guardian, such as Deadpool. That is completely voluntary on the theater's part though.
  • 03-16-2016, 12:11 PM
    Bradhammond
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
    Actually, the movie in question was in fact "Deadpool" Unfortunately the theater she went to evidently did allow her to take the child. And yes, it was rated R....Just in my mind, I considered the movie to have pornographic content.
  • 03-16-2016, 12:14 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
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    Actually, the movie in question was in fact "Deadpool" Unfortunately the theater she went to evidently did allow her to take the child. And yes, it was rated R....Just in my mind, I considered the movie to have pornographic content.

    And both parents are allowed to take their children to see just about anything they want to take the child to see - which is as it should be.

    The woman is "sick"? According to who, exactly? You? Dad?
  • 03-16-2016, 12:21 PM
    free9man
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
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    Actually, the movie in question was in fact "Deadpool" Unfortunately the theater she went to evidently did allow her to take the child. And yes, it was rated R....Just in my mind, I considered the movie to have pornographic content.

    Having seen the movie, I have to agree with you that it isn't really child appropriate and really fiddled with the NC-17 line. I also have to agree with kiddo, it was hilarious. Inappropriate, vulgar, crude...but hilarious. That being said, parents are allowed to take their children to bad movies.
  • 03-16-2016, 12:36 PM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
    If you did take a hair follicale test, would you pass it ? Normally a person isn't concerned about a drug test, unless they are concerned that they won't pass it. Saying you have no drug charges or convictions is not the same as not doing drugs.
  • 03-17-2016, 02:53 PM
    christielyn
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
    Just curious what your relation is the dad. I ask this because unless you lived in their home or was ever part of their private relationship, you really have no idea what "really" happened. Have you read the court paperwork that allowed mom to get a 2 year restraining order? Just because you THINK you know someone, doesn't mean that you honestly do. My ex was a WONDERFUL guy to everyone including his family and close friends. Everyone who met him loved him. However I knew the real guy. The guy to drank too much, the guy who when I filed for divorce lost it and threatened to rape and stab me. Even I was shocked at his behavior. His family didn't want to believe it until they saw the court paperwork, copies of the text messages and cellphone videos I made when he'd come home so trashed that he couldn't speak or stand. My point is, you may not really know the true story. Or ... you could be completely correct.

    As for visitation, mom doesn't have to let anyone see or speak to the child if she doesn't want them to. And she doesn't need to let dad either unless there is a court order. The drug test would need to also be court ordered. Mom can't just take it upon herself to require it. If she's withholding ordered visitation because she's insisting on a hair test, dad can call the authorities.
  • 03-18-2016, 06:22 AM
    Ohiogal
    Re: Can You Demand That the Other Parent Submit to Drug Testing Before Allowing Visit
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    The father has no drug convictions, nor has he ever even been charged with a drug charge. He may have a DUI from 3 or more years back. The mother had originally complained that the father had threatened her and that he had a gun. The police came and asked for his gun, which he got out and gave to them,( the gun was disassembled ), He has since gotten the gun released back to him. At the time of this incident, the mother went and got a restraining order which was for 2 years and has been completed. The mother is just a vengeful person and has refused to let the father see his child as well as not allowing anyone else in the father's family see the child or even talk to the child on the phone.

    Thank you. She has no real reason to request testing and is just a hateful person. There is also a taped conversion regarding the mother taking the child,(10 yrs old), to a pornographic movie rated R and three times in the conversation she denies taking the child. Then she slips up and says---he/she thought it was hilarious. She then admitted 2 more times that she had taken the child. The woman is sick.

    Who are you in this? An R rated movie is NOT pornographic. Mom could take HER child there. She has the right to make that decision.
    What has dad done to get visitation? Has there ever been a visitation order?
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