Ticked Speeding with LIDAR but New Radar Detector Did Not Alarm

My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: Ohio

I was on my way to work this morning with very light traffic and was going a few mph over the speed limit of 70. just before I made it to work I saw a state highway patrol man sitting in one of those turn around places between lanes on the highway. upon seeing him and not yet getting any alarm on my 3 month old escort passport set in the highway mode I slowed down to the speed limit of 70 and was doing about 68 when I passed him. he pulled out as nobody was on the road and pulled me over saying I was going in the low 80's then braked hard to 68.

I know for a fact my cruise control was under 80 at the time I was "hit" and my LIDAR/ Radar detector found nothing during the entire incident. he specifically told me he clocked me at 81 with laser then wrote on the ticket I was going 80 and was clocked by laser despite the fact that I detected nothing.

I know the detector works as passing him the day before (in the same spot) my detector went off for mile up the road until I passed him screaming laser the entire way.

What chance does my argument have in court to this.

I know that a non guilty plea will require a second court date. can I mail in a letter claiming to be non guilty and asking for a new court date or is this not advised.

The fact your radar detector didn't detect him will get you absolutely nowhere in court.

Those detectors are not infallible. Depending on the type of LIDAR being used and how he was using it, it is entirely possible to nail you with your detector quietly snoozing.

You have a zero percent chance of beating a ticket by claiming that your detector didn't go off.

You admit that you were speeding in a 70 MPH zone, but question whether you reached the speed of 80 MPH. That's not a great defense. Unless you can get out of the 6-10 over the limit range, whether you convince the court that you were traveling at 76 MPH or the court concludes that you were traveling at 80 MPH, it's the same offense. I doubt that you'll convince the court that you were driving below 76 MPH, and it does not appear from your story that you were paying much attention to your speed; but as the speed limit was over 55 MPH, a 6-10 over ticket shouldn't carry any points.

Instructions for pleading not guilty should be provided on or along with your ticket, and are likely also on the court's website.

Just plead not guilty. Discover the radar certifications and the recent calibrations. Don't mention your radar detector though.

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Quoting Mr. Knowitall

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You have a zero percent chance of beating a ticket by claiming that your detector didn't go off.

You admit that you were speeding in a 70 MPH zone, but question whether you reached the speed of 80 MPH. That's not a great defense. Unless you can get out of the 6-10 over the limit range, whether you convince the court that you were traveling at 76 MPH or the court concludes that you were traveling at 80 MPH, it's the same offense. I doubt that you'll convince the court that you were driving below 76 MPH, and it does not appear from your story that you were paying much attention to your speed; but as the speed limit was over 55 MPH, a 6-10 over ticket shouldn't carry any points.

Instructions for pleading not guilty should be provided on or along with your ticket, and are likely also on the court's website.

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so your saying that as a 0 point ticket I should just pay it regardless.

I already have 6 points and am 20. does age effect whether this is a point violation or not?

LIDAR detectors are by and large bunk. The whole point of using a laser is to have a small coherent beam. You were duped by the detector marketing if you thought it was going to protect you to the same level as it does with radar.

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Quoting flyingron

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LIDAR detectors are by and large bunk. The whole point of using a laser is to have a small coherent beam. You were duped by the detector marketing if you thought it was going to protect you to the same level as it does with radar.

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I understand how they use LIDAR by pointing it at license plates as they are the most reflective surface or windshield but detector marketing did not dupe me. I bought the detector to protect against radar and it does an admiral job at that but the side ability it has to detect LIDAR has been a large benefit to me. I understand that detectors are made with multiple sensors placed within the front of the car and rear to find more accurately when laser is being used. my windshield unit is best for x, k, and ka bands.

I maintain that I was going roughly 77-78 mph at the time I was "scanned".

my first question regarded to if the entire ticket could be thrown out due to not finding it with detector.
This has been answered.

my second question regarded to if the speed I was going could be testified as I believe that I was not going what he claimed me to be going by stating evidence of my word and lack of detection and therefore the ticket would be thrown out (assuming trooper does not show to court and its my word against nobody)

third question regards your mention of that this ticket being not worth any points anyway.
will this show on insurance?

over 2 years ago I had 2 speeding tickets within a 1 month span. I was then fine until this summer when I got a third. I am informed that this accounts to 6 points and the points drop off after 3 years.
I have not verified that the state counts me holding 6 points.

I am also informed that as a minor (21 in march of 2016) I am allowed up to 8 points until license suspension.

You mentioned that this violation as it is 10 over the speed limit of 70 and as 70 is in the 55 and over rule, that this violation will NOT count as any points to my license EVEN THOUGH I am a minor.

meaning that my best plan of action would be to simply pay the ticket and plea guilty by doing so.

this would leave me with 6 points remaining and $300 less in my pocket meaning this entire stop was simply a money grab.

You didn't bother to tell us in your original post that you're a minor, apparently operating under some sort of progressive licensing scheme. You can find out from the DMV website what the consequences are for committing moving violations at your stage of licensure, with your record of past offenses.

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You didn't bother to tell us in your original post that you're a minor, apparently operating under some sort of progressive licensing scheme. You can find out from the DMV website what the consequences are for committing moving violations at your stage of licensure, with your record of past offenses.

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I already have 6 points and am 20. does age effect whether this is a point violation or not?

I said I am 20. It appears you didn't bother to read all of my posts.

I can only find rules for "adults" on the dmv website and am not sure if there really even is a progressive system. clearly you don't know either.

thanks for the help with my theory of fighting lidar with radar detector as evidence as you all seem 100% sure that will not win in court.

I will continue to research how this ticket will count to me on the helpful and easy to navigate DMV website.

I gave up on LIDAR detectors. By the time they go off (if they go off) your speed has already been locked. You could not possibly react in the 1/3 of a second it can lock your speed. Add 15 milliseconds for the detector to alert you, and... you get the idea. The beam is fairly small and it is possible to get a hit off your vehicle without triggering your detector.

They are usually only good for that "YUP YOU GOT NAILED" factor.

Consider this a lesson learned not to rely on detectors.