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  • 09-15-2015, 09:08 AM
    alicesmith
    How Should the Location of a Violation be Specified on a Ticket
    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: California
    When issuing a speeding ticket on highway, should an officer post the exact location where the violation took place to the ticket? For example should he write: "2 miles South of exit #247" or just "South of exit #247" is enough? Also, if I do not understand his handwriting how to request clarification?
    Thank you.
  • 09-15-2015, 09:16 AM
    flyingron
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
    The location only needs to be approximate.

    "Excuse me, sir. I can't read what you wrote here. Could you tell me what it says, please?" Usually works pretty well.
  • 09-15-2015, 09:41 AM
    alicesmith
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
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    The location only needs to be approximate.

    "Excuse me, sir. I can't read what you wrote here. Could you tell me what it says, please?" Usually works pretty well.

    Well, let's say that 1 mile South of the exit #247 speed limit is 55 miles per hour and the location 5 miles South of the exit #247 is 65 miles per hour. It would make a big difference, would it not?

    I read the ticked a few hours later, with no the officer around to ask the question.
  • 09-15-2015, 10:00 AM
    flyingron
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
    Nope. Nothing written on the ticket itself much matters. The officer's testimony in court (or on the TBD statement) is what matters in your state.
  • 09-15-2015, 10:10 AM
    alicesmith
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
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    Nope. Nothing written on the ticket itself much matters. The officer's testimony in court (or on the TBD statement) is what matters in your state.

    But I've read in another thread http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129011 that he should at least he should put the distance between LIDAR and my car into ticket, should he not?
  • 09-15-2015, 10:22 AM
    flyingron
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
    The thread says nothing of the sort. No distance is required in your state.
  • 09-15-2015, 10:51 AM
    alicesmith
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
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    The thread says nothing of the sort. No distance is required in your state.

    Sure it does. The second post in the thread starts with the words:

    "Laser @ how far? Is that on the ticket? If not, you could argue they intentionally left off possibly exculpatory information."

    Besides, how the hell I could prepare my defense, if I am not entitled to know the exact locations of my car and the laser?
  • 09-15-2015, 10:57 AM
    flyingron
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
    It only is someone's unfounded assumption that such is required. It doesn't state that it's actually a California requirement.
  • 09-15-2015, 09:32 PM
    alicesmith
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
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    It only is someone's unfounded assumption that such is required. It doesn't state that it's actually a California requirement.

    But it is a reasonable requirement, is it not? How I could defend myself, if I do not have the info on the exact location of an alleged violation, and the officer, when he observed that alleged violation? I've read that it is a good idea to have some pictures, to have some maps, when you go to court, but to do that I should know in advance what the officer would tell the judge about the location.
  • 09-15-2015, 09:35 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: How Exact an Officer Should Specify Location of the Violation on the Ticket
    When you go to trial you can ask the officer in cross examination the distance and angle he was at when he used the lidar ... assuming, of course, that he USED lidar.
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