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  • 09-14-2015, 10:30 PM
    Singlemom23
    How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: michigan.

    I've taken care of my daughter from day one although he was in her life in the beginning. He never wanted to be there and constantly left me at home with her as a newborn. As months went on he started being mentally abusive saying he didn't even want her, and stopped coming around. Then he would pop back up and I did everything to get him to be a father. On Christmas he assaulted me while holding my daughter which I caught on video but didn't go to the cops because I was at his house and I just wanted out of the situation. Well since then she was 6 months old and now she is 15 months old. We went to court over child support and then we went on to mediation. They gave us a recommendation and he completely ignored it. Didn't sign it or object.

    Well 4 months went by and since he was responsible for paying for her health insurance, he refused to give me her information so I was paying out of pocket. He's behind in child support and has nothing to do with her. But continues to tell everyone I keep her from him. When the courts specifically wrote up a recommendation that he completely ignored. He has seen her once in the last 9 months not even for her birthday until he contacted me 2 days after and it was 2 days after her birthday which he walked out on us at the restaurant and stuck me with the bill. I can't take this anymore and finally filed for sole custody. What are my chances? I have voicemails of him threatening me and he even went as far as threatening me he was going to kidnap her.

    I have made police reports but they still let him get visitation rights through the recommendation! But thankfully he just ignored it and said he's waiting for the "right aggressive lawyer" I have bills in my daughters name from him not paying the health insurance and it was canceled and now I'm getting paperwork in the mail saying he's behind in child support. He won't let me get her a passport to go on vacation and makes our lives hell.
  • 09-14-2015, 11:46 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: I'm Going for Sole Custody. Opinions
    What are you trying to accomplish exactly?

    Sole custody does not mean he won't get visitation.

    What have you done since your other thread in April?
  • 09-14-2015, 11:49 PM
    T53147
    Re: I'm Going for Sole Custody. Opinions
    There are many places to vacation that do not require a passport. How does that relate to making your "lives hell"?
  • 09-15-2015, 10:24 AM
    Singlemom23
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    He was given visitation back in April and ignored it and never showed up. So now since April I am going for sole custody. I typed all that above. I get "snarky" because no one takes the time to actually read what I wrote. The court gave him his time with her and he ignored it. So now I'm going for sole custody so she doesn't have a low life in and out of her life. & how is that making our lives hell? Try having over 400 dollar bills coming to your house because he's not paying the health insurance, or refusing to let me get a passport to go on vacation or threatening and harassing me any chance he wants. Yes he make me and my daughters life hell.
  • 09-15-2015, 10:46 AM
    cbg
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    I'm betting that the translation of "sole custody" = Father does not get to see the child or be involved in any decisions about the child. Father can still be required to pay support and health insurance.
  • 09-15-2015, 11:16 AM
    wess1881
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    Chances are you will have to deal with dad making your life hell for quite a long while.

    You said that he has an order to pay medical insurance, but won't give you the information. Does that mean he complied with the order and has coverage for your daughter? Have you given him the doctors information so that he can call and set up the insurance without you? Perhaps it is just a matter of him not wanting you to have his information.
  • 09-15-2015, 11:18 AM
    Mercy&Grace
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    The child is too young to know what is going on. So the child's life isn't a living hell. On the other hand, he does seem.to be pushing your buttons. You can't control the love interests dad has. And unless there is clear cut evidence of abuse of the child while the child is with dad, dads love interests will be around the child. You need to be prepared for dad not being the only low life in the child's life that you have.no control over. He may not be seeing anyone now, but he will be. And I can guarantee you won't want your child around her either. You need to realize you can't control his life. If you don't, you don't know what living hell is, but I predict you will be finding out.

    If the insurance and child support not being paid is a big hardship, take him back to court on contempt.
  • 09-15-2015, 01:05 PM
    Singlemom23
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    I'm going to laugh when I actually get sole custody. It's called abandonment. He doesn't pay his child support or didn't use the courts visitation that they gave him. They gave him supervised and he never showed up so I'm contesting the recommendation and going for sole custody. He got her health insurance canceled from failure to pay and is behind in child support. I am not stopping him from seeing his child HE IS. He chose to not come when they gave him the visitation and he had to get counseling and work up to over nights. Which I was fine with but he ignored everything. & he wouldn't give me her health insurance information for the pharmacy or the doctors and they wouldn't release it to me because it's his policy. He refused to call the doctors or anything and just hung up on me. He has told me several times he doesn't want her and doesn't want to pay for a child he doesn't want to see. So I don't get how this is backfiring on me? He DOESNT want to see the child so I'm taking him back to courts so I have full rights and he can't withhold anything for me. & my daughter knows if someone enters her life and just leaves regardless of age.

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    He has looked my daughter straight in her eyes and told her he doesn't want her. I told him just sign over his rights and I will wipe child support clean but he refuses to look like a bad guy to everyone else.

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    I don't care about hearing what people have to say because I know what a deadbeat he is. He didn't even see her or call and wish her happy birthday but called me 2 days after. But what did I do? I took her to see him because I've tried EVERYTHING to get him to be involved. But he doesn't obviously or he would be coming over every week like the court ordered him too. & if he had the right to "exercise visitation" why is there such thing as contesting to it and going for sole custody? Your obviously not a lawyer.
  • 09-15-2015, 01:17 PM
    wess1881
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    Mom, you have got some demons you might wanna work out before going to court and saying the things you said here.

    We are talking about an order from April, yes? As in, not even 5 months ago? You really think the court is going to jump from visitation every other weekend to taking his rights away? And as Dog said, if dad gets wind that your plan is to phase him out, and you believe his sole purpose of being around is to make your life hell, you're not going to like the results.
  • 09-15-2015, 01:37 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
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    Quoting Singlemom23
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    I don't care about hearing what people have to say because I know what a deadbeat he is. He didn't even see her or call and wish her happy birthday but called me 2 days after. But what did I do? I took her to see him because I've tried EVERYTHING to get him to be involved. But he doesn't obviously or he would be coming over every week like the court ordered him too. & if he had the right to "exercise visitation" why is there such thing as contesting to it and going for sole custody? Your obviously not a lawyer.

    Oh good Lord - you actually believe that tripe, don't you?

    Okay. Time for Aunty Doggies Famous Reality Check.

    1. Sole custody will not take away visitation rights.
    2. He is not ordered to see his child. That's his privilege to exercise or not. You, however, ARE ordered to make his child available during his visitation periods.
    3. You aren't going to be terminating his rights, and he won't be terminating his rights either. Not unless you have a husband - which I doubt - who is willing to adopt the child.
    4. Silly rabbit - you're not contesting visitation. You're asking for sole custody. See #1.

    Very simply: the obligation is yours, not his.

    Do you understand now?

    ETA: This ain't abandonment, dear.

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    Quoting wess1881
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    Mom, you have got some demons you might wanna work out before going to court and saying the things you said here.

    We are talking about an order from April, yes? As in, not even 5 months ago? You really think the court is going to jump from visitation every other weekend to taking his rights away? And as Dog said, if dad gets wind that your plan is to phase him out, and you believe his sole purpose of being around is to make your life hell, you're not going to like the results.

    Here's the kicker: Dad doesn't come around. Mom is the only one parenting the child. If Dad isn't around, exactly how is he making the child's life hell?

    Exactly.

    ;)
  • 09-15-2015, 05:01 PM
    llworking
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
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    Quoting Dogmatique
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    Oh good Lord - you actually believe that tripe, don't you?

    Okay. Time for Aunty Doggies Famous Reality Check.

    1. Sole custody will not take away visitation rights.
    2. He is not ordered to see his child. That's his privilege to exercise or not. You, however, ARE ordered to make his child available during his visitation periods.
    3. You aren't going to be terminating his rights, and he won't be terminating his rights either. Not unless you have a husband - which I doubt - who is willing to adopt the child.
    4. Silly rabbit - you're not contesting visitation. You're asking for sole custody. See #1.

    Very simply: the obligation is yours, not his.

    Do you understand now?

    ETA: This ain't abandonment, dear.

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    Here's the kicker: Dad doesn't come around. Mom is the only one parenting the child. If Dad isn't around, exactly how is he making the child's life hell?

    Exactly.

    ;)

    I agree with most of what you said but it does honestly sound like dad does not wish to be a father to this child.

    I also agree that sole custody does not mean that dad will not get visitation rights. I also agree that there is virtually no chance that dad's paternal rights will be terminated because that would also terminate his responsibilities which the state won't let happen. The state wants both parents on the hook to support the child even if the state has to pull teeth to make one of them comply...even for decades, to make them comply.

    I also agree that the state will give dad every chance, for a very long time, to regret his attitude and step up to the plate and BE a dad.

    However, I do not think that sole custody is impossible for mom under the circumstances...I think that she is jumping the gun but its not impossible. There is value to the child's life in not having to have dad's input on medical, educational, religious and travel issues when its clear that he doesn't want to be a father to the child.

    In addition, if he keeps on as he is going, then eventually he will meet the criteria for abandonment, and if mom is married at that time and if her husband wants to adopt the child it might happen...but its not going to happen NOW.
  • 09-15-2015, 06:31 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    I think Dad's take on this would be quite, quite different.

    Dad will come around. Why? Because if he's as much of an ass that Mommy says, he's going to do it just to piss her off and she will have absolutely no control over that.

    And I predict that Mommy is going to have an extremely unpleasant wake-up call once she's in front of a judge. Watch Dad convince the court that she's done everything within her power to alienate him from his child.

    Betcha.
  • 09-15-2015, 10:32 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
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    We went to court over child support and then we went on to mediation. They gave us a recommendation and he completely ignored it. Didn't sign it or object.

    That's how a referee's recommendation works -- you have the choice of objecting, or you can simply ignore it and allow it to be entered as an order of the court.
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    Quoting Singlemom23
    He's behind in child support and has nothing to do with her. But continues to tell everyone I keep her from him.

    The child support issues are separate from the custody issues.

    Presumably he will be telling the court that you're interfering with his access, should the matter again come before the court.
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    Quoting Singlemom23
    He has seen her once in the last 9 months not even for her birthday until he contacted me 2 days after and it was 2 days after her birthday which he walked out on us at the restaurant and stuck me with the bill.

    If he didn't see her on her birthday, how could he have been at the restaurant where her birthday was celebrated? Or is it that he came to the birthday party two days later, but you're complaining that he didn't also come to see her on her birthday?
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    Quoting Singlemom23
    I can't take this anymore and finally filed for sole custody. What are my chances?

    What has actually changed since the very recent order of the court? From what you have told us, it would appear that nothing has changed -- but you need to demonstrate a material change in circumstances before the court will revisit custody.
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    Quoting Singlemom23
    I have voicemails of him threatening me and he even went as far as threatening me he was going to kidnap her.

    I have made police reports but they still let him get visitation rights through the recommendation!

    So you make police reports, the police tell you that no crime has occurred, and visitation continues? But wait -- if he's not exercising his visitation, how is it that they are "still let[ting] him get visitation rights through the recommendation" (which is now not a recommendation, but is in fact a custody order)?
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    Quoting Singlemom23
    I have bills in my daughters name from him not paying the health insurance and it was canceled....

    If the insurance was canceled, you have the option of taking the matter back to court and asking that he be ordered to pay the portion of the bills that would have been covered by insurance, had he maintained it as ordered.
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    Quoting Singlemom23
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    So now I'm going for sole custody so she doesn't have a low life in and out of her life.

    That's not a change in circumstances.
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    Quoting Singlemom23
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    They gave him supervised and he never showed up....

    You are changing the facts. Are you referring to the present order, or are you referring to the situation before the most recent court order? If visitation is to be supervised, who (or what agency) is the supervisor, and why isn't visitation being scheduled?
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    Quoting Singlemom23
    ...so I'm contesting the recommendation...

    You chose not to object to the recommendation, so it's now an order.
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    Quoting Singlemom23
    He DOESNT want to see the child so I'm taking him back to courts so I have full rights and he can't withhold anything for me. & my daughter knows if someone enters her life and just leaves regardless of age.

    Why are you injecting so much drama into the situation? If he doesn't want to see the child, you have what you want -- he's not seeing the child.

    As you've been told, you're not going to get an order preventing him from having access to the child -- even if you get sole legal and sole physical custody, the court will grant him visitation rights. Your motion may inspire him to start seeing the child.
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    Quoting Singlemom23
    I told him just sign over his rights and I will wipe child support clean but he refuses to look like a bad guy to everyone else.

    Another misapprehension: You can't magically sign away your rights to your child. If you want him to surrender his rights, once you get married to somebody else who is willing to do so, you can ask him to consent to stepparent adoption. Otherwise, he's going to remain the father.
  • 09-16-2015, 01:04 PM
    christielyn
    Re: How Can a Parent Get Sole Custody
    Everyone here is giving you pretty good feedback but I don't think you're in the frame of mind to hear it or understand it which will be expensive for you in the long run. Lawyers aren't cheap and they like to pull you along to get more money. Sorry.

    I understand you'd like to eliminate this jerk from your child's life. Trust me I would too. But the reality is that it's not easy to do unless he's harming her or as someone else stated, you get married and that person wants to adopt her. A court will NOT remove his visitation right based on the lack of using them. Visitation doesn't work that way. You don't have the legal right to ask him to sign away his rights and wipe out support either. You should, but you don't. Here's what I would do ....

    1. Take him back to court and ask for an increase to support in the amount it would cost you to cover your daughter on your medical insurance or to get her a separate policy. My sperm donor pulled the same crud with me and I did just that and was awarded the additional amount ($200) which was WAY more than the $50 he could have just payed through his employer. Idiot. I know you said he's not paying support right now so you may not see the cash right now but it will catch up to him. If the state is aware he's behind in support, many things can happen to him: Jail, loss of his own passport, loss of any type license (car, professional), loss of tax returns, liens on property etc. Karma ....

    2. Stop all contact with him and any attempt to get him to see his daughter. You stay quiet ... your life will feel easier.

    3. Passport? It's not necessary that you go somewhere out of the US unless you are not from here and have very close family abroad. Then you can address that with the judge. He could issue something that you could bring with you that states you don't need dads permission. Otherwise, once your daughter reaches 14, you won't need his permission.

    4. Always remember that staying calm or silent when it comes to him is better. It actually probably irritates him way more than an argument and makes you look much better. And if he send text, emails or phone conversations that are threatening in anyway, report it. REPORT IT! The video is not worth beans if you didn't report it when it happened. So start documenting everything. Including each and every visitation he misses.

    The folks here aren't wrong ... they're just not saying what you want to hear. Sometimes ya just gotta find out for yourself so that you can come back here and help others.
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