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  • 08-28-2015, 08:14 AM
    HRinDEVON
    Re: Injured by LPs During an Arrest for Shoplifting
    You may darn well be found guilty of shoplifting ..so be it.

    But for store employees to tackle you and beat you up may be a major problem for the store ...you need to discuss the issues promptly with a PI lawyer and get/keep good records of your actual injuries
  • 08-28-2015, 12:55 PM
    geek
    Re: Injured by LPs During an Arrest for Shoplifting
    You fought, resisted and tried to get away, which probably accounts for most of your injuries. The bite marks should have been shown to the cop and then you should have requested medical treatment right away. Human bites are very infectious, and you could have been exposed to Hep. C and HIV. Get it looked at.

    People telling you to stop stealing is not abuse. Stop stealing. You want something, pay for it.

    Then you won't have to worry about looking over your shoulder for LP or cops chasing you down.
  • 08-28-2015, 01:09 PM
    DeputyDog
    Re: Injured by LPs During an Arrest for Shoplifting
    I don't believe you.

    Do you know why? No, it's not because I just say that as a knee-jerk reaction to everyone who posts here. It's because your whole scenario is totally implausible. I'm not even going to pick apart detail by detail as to why I don't think this happened the way you say that it did.

    I'm going to just say this: It's very, very common for people to claim "excessive force," and that they were "beat up," and all sorts of other things when that's not what happened. Hell, I don't think they are all LYING - I think it really feels real to them - but isn't.

    I work in LP. Not long ago, a kid stole a belt. As I approached him, he threw it on the ground and said "Man, I don't have ANYTHING." At that time, I grabbed him, using an escort hold walked him to the wall, and placed him up against the wall and into handcuffs. Do you know what he said in the office? "You didn't have to come out and BEAT ME like that! Man, you just started going to town on me, throwing me around, beating me ..." I'm sure he really believed that that's what happened. The video doesn't lie, and it contradicts him.

    Also, the biting doesn't pass the smell test - unless of course YOU bit them or used some kind of ridiculous force against them first. A shoplifter's body is the LAST THING I want in my mouth - but I would bite a shoplifter if they were say, punching me repeatedly and I couldn't get away, or trying to choke me. Did you leave some facts out?

    Finally, there's nothing in that law that says they have to identify themselves BEFORE they put their hands on you. I have walked up to people, put them in an escort hold and handcuffed them while simultaneously informing them of who I am as the cuffs were going on and not before. You can thank all the people who run for that.
  • 08-28-2015, 02:10 PM
    llworking
    Re: Injured by LPs During an Arrest for Shoplifting
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    Quoting DeputyDog
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    I don't believe you.

    Do you know why? No, it's not because I just say that as a knee-jerk reaction to everyone who posts here. It's because your whole scenario is totally implausible. I'm not even going to pick apart detail by detail as to why I don't think this happened the way you say that it did.

    I'm going to just say this: It's very, very common for people to claim "excessive force," and that they were "beat up," and all sorts of other things when that's not what happened. Hell, I don't think they are all LYING - I think it really feels real to them - but isn't.

    I work in LP. Not long ago, a kid stole a belt. As I approached him, he threw it on the ground and said "Man, I don't have ANYTHING." At that time, I grabbed him, using an escort hold walked him to the wall, and placed him up against the wall and into handcuffs. Do you know what he said in the office? "You didn't have to come out and BEAT ME like that! Man, you just started going to town on me, throwing me around, beating me ..." I'm sure he really believed that that's what happened. The video doesn't lie, and it contradicts him.

    Also, the biting doesn't pass the smell test - unless of course YOU bit them or used some kind of ridiculous force against them first. A shoplifter's body is the LAST THING I want in my mouth - but I would bite a shoplifter if they were say, punching me repeatedly and I couldn't get away, or trying to choke me. Did you leave some facts out?

    Finally, there's nothing in that law that says they have to identify themselves BEFORE they put their hands on you. I have walked up to people, put them in an escort hold and handcuffed them while simultaneously informing them of who I am as the cuffs were going on and not before. You can thank all the people who run for that.

    I understand that you do not think its plausible, but I do. I have observed things just as bad, if not worse than that, in parking lots, many times in my 58 years.
  • 08-28-2015, 03:55 PM
    Taxing Matters
    Re: Injured by LPs During an Arrest for Shoplifting
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    Quoting Ohiogal
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    I find it interesting that she wants to sue when she is a thief. The whole unclean hands doctrine. Maybe she should quit stealing stuff and actually follow the law. Then she wouldn't be subjected to this. After all Michael Brown was called a thug for stealing cigars and was shot to death. This idiot got off lightly.

    A shoplifter does not deserve to be beat up by LP without provocation. An unarmed thief does not deserve to be shot to death by cops. It is, in my view, terribly to say that because they stole something they deserved to beat up or killed. You don’t have to condone theft to recognize that excessive force is wrong and ought to be punished, just as the thief still deserves the punishment for his/her crime.
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