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  • 01-08-2007, 06:56 PM
    stupid30yrold
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    Thats funny- I DON'T like T.V!! LOL!! I rather research or read than watch t.v. I pay for cable but only to get the weather and Hockey!! GO RED WINGS!! I was just wondering because of how like the polygraph test isn't admissible in court because it isn't accurate. Video can be cut and spliced- it's called editing. That is why I was just going to plead guilty and get it over with. I KNOW there is a video and it will do MORE harm than good. However everyone that has seen it says I am just on it standing there and paying for my stuff with credit cards. I just don't want to take my chances. Are you an attorney or judge if you don't mind me asking?
  • 01-08-2007, 07:00 PM
    panther10758
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    My profession is of no importance here. If you read my signature line it pretty well sums it up. Even If I said I was I could be lieing! Just take what you can use here and leave the rest alone!
  • 01-08-2007, 07:06 PM
    stupid30yrold
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    Like I said- only if you don't mind my asking. It isn't important because everything you have said makes COMPLETE sense!! I just wish I had the common sense to think of the consumers end of it before I said OK- its ok we can do that. DUH- I don't blame you for not being nice to people like that. I am the consumer that is always saying "yah people steal and we pay for it by them upping our prices"!! SO- I know what you mean but I STILL highly appreciate all your advice.
  • 01-09-2007, 09:32 AM
    stupid30yrold
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    I must of missed where I didn't tell you that both of these charges were felonies punishable by 5yrs each. Can I still drop the first and bring the second one down to a misdemeanor? STILL hoping for fines, probation, etc..
  • 01-09-2007, 09:34 AM
    panther10758
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    Working out a plea deal should get both dropped to misdemeanors
  • 01-09-2007, 09:45 AM
    stupid30yrold
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    OK- thanks!! And no jail time as we talked about before?
  • 01-09-2007, 09:48 AM
    panther10758
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    that would depend on the terms of plea deal but yes that is very likely
  • 01-09-2007, 10:13 AM
    stupid30yrold
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    OK- I was just wondering if I had got in over my head. I just found out from my other lawyer on the domestic that I am getting a disorderly person charge and like 50$ in fines. I don't think that is right when I didn't do anything. What is the deal with this judicial system? He was drunk I wasn't and he pushed me- I didn't touch him. I went to jail and he didn't get picked up for 10 more days. Then got an obstructing and resisting charge- dropped that all out and got a jostling charge. How is that justice?
  • 01-11-2007, 07:50 AM
    stupid30yrold
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    Well nothing you said happened at all!! They would NOT take a plea of fines, probation and delayed jail upon completion of probation. I had to take a plea of a felony to conspiracy to retail fraud and see the Circuit court judge who is hard as hell on people and has NO "mercy". This being my 1st offense I don't know what else I can do now? I didn't enter a plea but waived my preliminary exam and now have to do this. Is there ANY thing else you can think of? There is 9 other people involved I had NO clue about and most of their statements are NOT true.
  • 01-11-2007, 08:06 AM
    aaron
    Re: Retail Fraud 1st degree and Conspiracy 1st degree
    You can take the case to trial, if you choose. Perhaps the prosecutor at Circuit Court will offer a better deal. I would ask what your lawyer thinks, but that's probably best not posted here.
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