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  • 07-31-2015, 01:27 AM
    swetha91
    Taking Puzzles from Websites to Use in an App
    Hi,

    I'm planning to write an application/website with all puzzles. We have many websites with puzzles as content. Is it OK to copy all those puzzles and use them for my business? I have seen that every website has "Copyright 20xx. All rights reserved" bottom line, but when we google search with an existing puzzle, the search giving me around 20+ sites which has the same puzzle. Means all these 20+ sites are copied from one another. Not only this single puzzle, but I searched around 10 different puzzles, all the searches given me 20+ sites containing these puzzles. So how can I believe that particulate site is a sole owner of the puzzle? And in this case, can I use the same content for my website/application? And I think the content is educational stuff which can be copied and shared, am I right? And I don't know who is the original owner of any puzzle, in future if a person comes with ownership of a puzzle which I'm using, how can I ensure that it is his own creation and how to proceed with consequences?

    A million thanks in advance!
  • 07-31-2015, 06:37 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Taking Puzzles from Websites to Use in an App
    The fact that puzzles appear on more than one website does not mean (a) that they're in the public domain or, (b) that they're not licensed by the websites that use them. Also, even if others are stealing that content, their theft does not mean that you are entitled to also steal that content.

    If you want to use other people's work in your app, I suggest that you buy or license the work.
  • 07-31-2015, 09:03 AM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Taking Puzzles from Websites to Use in an App
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    So how can I believe that particulate site is a sole owner of the puzzle?

    You don't have to. That the puzzle is owned by SOMEBODY is all you need to know.

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    Quoting swetha91
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    And in this case, can I use the same content for my website/application?

    That would be copyright infringement without the consent of the owner.

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    Quoting swetha91
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    I think the content is educational stuff which can be copied and shared, am I right?

    No.

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    Quoting swetha91
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    And I don't know who is the original owner of any puzzle, in future if a person comes with ownership of a puzzle which I'm using, how can I ensure that it is his own creation

    You won't have to. He will prove it in court when he sues your pants off.

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    how to proceed with consequences?

    When the inevitable lawsuit is handed to you, you proceed by paying tens of thousands of dollars to a lawyer to defend you. Or, a much smaller amount to file bankruptcy.

    My advice: Don't use anybody's material without consent. There are no gimmicks or rationalizations that'll prevent you from getting sued.
  • 08-01-2015, 05:51 PM
    swetha91
    Re: Taking Puzzles from Websites to Use in an App
    Thank you very much for all your replies! You opened my eyes.
    One more small question:
    Is it mandatory to buy copyright license EVEN if I'm using it for NON-Profit service also?

    Ok, I'm planning to approach the owners, but I'm new to this area, can you give me procedure to get copyrights?
    1. What are the documents I need to carry(in India)?
    2. If owner already sold the copyrights to any publisher, then whom we need to approach owner? or publisher?
    3. Do we have any services company who can do all these by taking service charges in India?

    Again you(and the forum) are really excellent, and great service. Thanks!
  • 08-01-2015, 06:17 PM
    Lehk
    Re: Taking Puzzles from Websites to Use in an App
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    Quoting adjusterjack
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    When the inevitable lawsuit is handed to you, you proceed by paying tens of thousands of dollars to a lawyer to defend you. Or, a much smaller amount to file bankruptcy.

    My advice: Don't use anybody's material without consent. There are no gimmicks or rationalizations that'll prevent you from getting sued.

    bankruptcy will not clear a willful copyright infringement judgement.
  • 08-01-2015, 08:55 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Taking Puzzles from Websites to Use in an App
    Quote:

    Quoting swetha91
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    Thank you very much for all your replies! You opened my eyes.
    One more small question:
    Is it mandatory to buy copyright license EVEN if I'm using it for NON-Profit service also?

    Ok, I'm planning to approach the owners, but I'm new to this area, can you give me procedure to get copyrights?
    1. What are the documents I need to carry(in India)?
    2. If owner already sold the copyrights to any publisher, then whom we need to approach owner? or publisher?
    3. Do we have any services company who can do all these by taking service charges in India?

    Again you(and the forum) are really excellent, and great service. Thanks!

    You'll need to find yourself an intellectual property attorney in India because we have no clue as to how things work over there.
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