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  • 07-10-2015, 06:25 PM
    geek
    Re: Will Child Support Be Increased if the Payor Receives a Large Lump Sum
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    yes. she is very greedy and not accommodating. i pay child support on time. she wants more. he's only 5.....he really needs nothing beyond clothes at this point. i buy all of his clothes, which i am not court ordered to, and pay my child support and see him several times a week.....when she is cooperating. we were never married so i owe her no luxuries for her lifestyle.

    i wish child support laws had a clause where a % of the money sent must go into a trust for the child that cannot be touched. the way it is now, a mother can do whatever she wants with all of the money every month. my friend has 2 children with his ex-fiance......a few months after their breakup and $1700 a month for 2 toddlers, she has a brand new lexus. the system is too one-sided!

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    incredible. thanx. im glad i didnt sign the ticket yet. i am already doing homework on setting up a trust fund for my son for himself and for college. i am just trying to do as much homework as i can before i consult an attorney and financial advisor so i am not taken advantage of. thank you for all of your help.

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    yes, i am obligated to report changes in income. very eye-opening. thank you for your help.

    Yeah...those darned mothers making Lexus payments on child support...kinda like the "welfare queen" meme. It's a myth.

    Ever consider that the Lexus is being paid for with earned wages? Tupperware parties? Her folks kicking in a few bucks?

    If you had custody and received child support (and men indeed do), you can spend it as you pleased, too.

    You made the kids, you pay for the kids. You win lottery money, guess what- that child can get a cut, too.
  • 07-10-2015, 06:27 PM
    Dogmatique
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    Oh he's fine with the child getting a cut - he's just pissing and moaning about Mom getting to administer that cut first.

    Hell, as long as that child is fed, clothed and housed, Mom can treat herself to the entire year's worth of new Vuitton purses.

    THAT'S what's irritating the living hell out of him. He can't control - that's it.
  • 07-10-2015, 06:29 PM
    geek
    Re: Will Child Support Be Increased if the Payor Receives a Large Lump Sum
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    Oh he's fine with the child getting a cut - he's just pissing and moaning about Mom getting to administer that cut first.

    Hell, as long as that child is fed, clothed and housed, Mom can treat herself to the entire year's worth of new Vuitton purses.

    THAT'S what's irritating the living hell out of him. He can't control - that's it.

    But that's the way it goes- if the shoe was on the other foot, it would be the same for him. He could buy a nice pair of Italian loafers if he wished. It just is what it is!

    Can you imagine if the courts started asking for reciepts-- hoo boy! ;)
  • 07-10-2015, 06:41 PM
    Dogmatique
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    But that's the way it goes- if the shoe was on the other foot, it would be the same for him. He could buy a nice pair of Italian loafers if he wished. It just is what it is!

    Can you imagine if the courts started asking for reciepts-- hoo boy! ;)

    Shellac manicures: $40 + tip
    Yoga supplies: $85
    New sneakers: $285
    Knowing it's bugging the life out of your ex: priceless.



    I'm going to get serious now. If I was in Dad's position, yes, I'd be pissed as all glory. BUT. There comes a point where you have to just quit focusing on it. Otherwise it's going to eat you alive, and the resentment will hurt the relationship between you and your child because no matter how hard you try and how well you think you're hiding it, you're really not.

    If you can change something, then change it and stop worrying.
    If you can't change it, stop worrying about it.

    Y'know?
  • 07-10-2015, 06:45 PM
    geek
    Re: Will Child Support Be Increased if the Payor Receives a Large Lump Sum
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    Shellac manicures: $40 + tip
    Yoga supplies: $85
    New sneakers: $285
    Knowing it's bugging the life out of your ex: priceless.



    I'm going to get serious now. If I was in Dad's position, yes, I'd be pissed as all glory. BUT. There comes a point where you have to just quit focusing on it. Otherwise it's going to eat you alive, and the resentment will hurt the relationship between you and your child because no matter how hard you try and how well you think you're hiding it, you're really not.

    If you can change something, then change it and stop worrying.
    If you can't change it, stop worrying about it.

    Y'know?

    I would agree with that wholeheartedly.

    You'll never win, and the stress of fretting about it just isn't worth it.

    (285 dollar sneakers?? Is that a thing?)
  • 07-10-2015, 07:10 PM
    Dogmatique
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    I would agree with that wholeheartedly.

    You'll never win, and the stress of fretting about it just isn't worth it.

    (285 dollar sneakers?? Is that a thing?)

    (Major thing)

    (My biggest Major Thing? Henna)
  • 07-11-2015, 05:06 AM
    budwad
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    Windfall income is not treated as annual income when it comes to calculating child support. So there isn't going to be any big pay out to the custodial parent. And there is nothing automatic about increased support based on the winnings.

    Custodial parent has to file for reconsideration and fill out a case management statement with all the actual expenses of living and child expenses. Non-custodial parent has to do the same.

    The court is not going to raise child support payments based on one year's income including the winnings only to have to handle another motion for reconsideration in following years. The winnings will be averaged or amortized over a period of time the court thinks is appropriate.

    Talk to your lawyer and your accountant.
  • 07-11-2015, 11:17 AM
    Dogmatique
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    Windfall income is not treated as annual income when it comes to calculating child support. So there isn't going to be any big pay out to the custodial parent. And there is nothing automatic about increased support based on the winnings.

    Custodial parent has to file for reconsideration and fill out a case management statement with all the actual expenses of living and child expenses. Non-custodial parent has to do the same.

    The court is not going to raise child support payments based on one year's income including the winnings only to have to handle another motion for reconsideration in following years. The winnings will be averaged or amortized over a period of time the court thinks is appropriate.

    Talk to your lawyer and your accountant.


    Lottery winnings are income for child support purposes in New York. This is in addition to the state having first pick if arrears are owed.
  • 07-13-2015, 01:00 PM
    li.bee94
    Re: Will Child Support Be Increased if the Payor Receives a Large Lump Sum
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    Yeah...those darned mothers making Lexus payments on child support...kinda like the "welfare queen" meme. It's a myth.

    Ever consider that the Lexus is being paid for with earned wages? Tupperware parties? Her folks kicking in a few bucks?

    If you had custody and received child support (and men indeed do), you can spend it as you pleased, too.

    You made the kids, you pay for the kids. You win lottery money, guess what- that child can get a cut, too.



    To clear the air......im not worried or angry about anything. she is who she is & she chooses her actions. i choose my actions. besides all of that, im a 'hands on' father.....i had my son everyday, all day until he was 2 years old. she broke off the engagement when he was 14 months old. i still had him all week and she had him on weekends. she didnt want to do visitation until he was 2yrs old. since then, i see my son 3-4 days a week. my visitation is for 2 weekends a month.....when it's my weekend, i'll see him at least 6 days that week.

    when i do as much as you do, you dont NEED more money, u WANT more money which is GREED. i take him to daycare several days a week. i also pick him up a few days a week. some of those days, he spends the night with me and i'll take him back to daycare the next morning. why does she allow this? because it's easy for her. thats all.

    this is a situation of GREED. period. now if she did it ALL EVERYDAY, then it is what it is with the child support and the money she gets. my responsibility is to my son and what im going to do is make sure he's taken care of. that simple. her being difficult and disrespectful to my family just gives me more incentive to make sure my son is taken care of FIRST,FOREMOST AND ONLY! like i said, she chose her actions. she has to live with the results.

    As of today, this situation has been taken care of and i have what i want. To everyone, who was sincere with their advice, i appreciate all of your input. thank you.
  • 07-13-2015, 01:24 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Will Child Support Be Increased if the Payor Receives a Large Lump Sum
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    To clear the air......im not worried or angry about anything. she is who she is & she chooses her actions. i choose my actions. besides all of that, im a 'hands on' father.....i had my son everyday, all day until he was 2 years old. she broke off the engagement when he was 14 months old. i still had him all week and she had him on weekends. she didnt want to do visitation until he was 2yrs old. since then, i see my son 3-4 days a week. my visitation is for 2 weekends a month.....when it's my weekend, i'll see him at least 6 days that week.

    when i do as much as you do, you dont NEED more money, u WANT more money which is GREED. i take him to daycare several days a week. i also pick him up a few days a week. some of those days, he spends the night with me and i'll take him back to daycare the next morning. why does she allow this? because it's easy for her. thats all.

    this is a situation of GREED. period. now if she did it ALL EVERYDAY, then it is what it is with the child support and the money she gets. my responsibility is to my son and what im going to do is make sure he's taken care of. that simple. her being difficult and disrespectful to my family just gives me more incentive to make sure my son is taken care of FIRST,FOREMOST AND ONLY! like i said, she chose her actions. she has to live with the results.

    As of today, this situation has been taken care of and i have what i want. To everyone, who was sincere with their advice, i appreciate all of your input. thank you.

    You seriously need to consider counseling. Your hatred of your ex is so, so severe that your son is going to pick up on it no matter how hard you think you're hiding it.

    Ironically, you make such a fuss about "want" versus "need", and yet... what does your last paragraph say?
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