Re: Misdemeanor Jury Trial, Extortion from "Victim," and Assault Charges
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viol8te
That's all I'm saying. If dude is really had $500k, he wouldn't be on a free forum asking for input.
If he doesn't have the money then it seems likely that her statement was hyperbole -- he was asking what would make her tell the police that he hit her in the nose by accident and she responded with an answer that was intentionally ridiculous.
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Mr. Knowitall
If he doesn't have the money then it seems likely that her statement was hyperbole -- he was asking what would make her tell the police that he hit her in the nose by accident and she responded with an answer that was intentionally ridiculous.
The woman's father repeated the demand for money. If the woman was joking, was her father in on the joke?
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I know, but knowing women beaters as well as I do... he's more than likely lying through his teeth.
So "men beaters" are just fine? I don't understand why some people try to picture "women beating" as somehow greater crime than "men beating". Violence is violence no matter what sex the victim is! The OP was asking questions about the extortion his spouse is trying to pull through and if that's the case and there is evidence that will greatly impact his case!
Independent (read non-feminists sponsored) studies already show that males / females commit IPV at about the same rate yet violence against males is treated completely differently by law enforcement and society in general, males are often ridiculed as "grow some balls" and male beating females are often encouraged with the "you go girl" mentality. And some parents, especially the ones with young sons, do not necessarily agree with this mentality.
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To apply a lot of leverage to ones point of view in getting money out of soon to be EX spouse does NOT necessarily fit the state definition of the crime of "extortion"
Lest OP be left in dust of economic warfare I suggest he get divorce counsel pronto.
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but instead I was tried and convicted by this forum's members.
You were not tried nor convicted here, some members are voicing their opinion (biased or not) and it is up to you if you ignore some or not. Take it to a jury trial and let them assess the facts as a whole not by the pieces you provided here. Every DV case is different although a few (biased?) people describe all as "man beats woman". Your best bet is a jury trial as you have nothing to lose, and by pleading guilty you have nothing to gain. Again, read the content of the link I posted earlier.
A lot of people are skeptical by default about DV charges brought to spouses right before or during a divorce proceeding.
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You were not tried nor convicted here, some members are voicing their opinion (biased or not) and it is up to you if you ignore some or not. Take it to a jury trial and let them assess the facts as a whole not by the pieces you provided here. Every DV case is different although a few (biased?) people describe all as "man beats woman". Your best bet is a jury trial as you have nothing to lose, and by pleading guilty you have nothing to gain. Again, read the content of the link I posted earlier.
A lot of people are skeptical by default about DV charges brought to spouses right before or during a divorce proceeding.
"During" perhaps but right before...not so much. Why? Because what self respecting person would NOT file for divorce after being subjected to domestic violence?
Even "during" can be an issue because if they are still living in the same home, while a divorce is pending, tensions are extra high.
Yes, its possible that a false DV claim could be a tactic. However, its equally possible that its not, again, because tensions during a divorce are so high.
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So "men beaters" are just fine? I don't understand why some people try to picture "women beating" as somehow greater crime than "men beating". Violence is violence no matter what sex the victim is! The OP was asking questions about the extortion his spouse is trying to pull through and if that's the case and there is evidence that will greatly impact his case!
Independent (read non-feminists sponsored) studies already show that males / females commit IPV at about the same rate yet violence against males is treated completely differently by law enforcement and society in general, males are often ridiculed as "grow some balls" and male beating females are often encouraged with the "you go girl" mentality. And some parents, especially the ones with young sons, do not necessarily agree with this mentality.
Regardless of studies that may be found online, my answer was predicated by the narrative that the OP originated to start this thread. My answer is the result of looking at his version of events, the amount of damage that he caused and his actions that initiated the whole event. In my unit, my job os to challenge the perpetrator. In this scenario, by all accounts, OP was the perpetrator. If he wasn't based off his own narrative, he'd have a hell of a time trying to convince folks otherwise.
If this was a woman I was dealing with, I'd hold her accountable too. What OP has submetted to the group was a justification for his violence. Now, he is looking for approval for his actions amongst the internet to make it seem as if it was a normal "reaction" to an issue that he encountered. I go as hard as I am on this post because he is trying to victimize this woman even further by his own depiction of the events. If it were a woman, I'd go just as hard on her.
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Regardless of studies that may be found online, my answer was predicated by the narrative that the OP originated to start this thread. My answer is the result of looking at his version of events, the amount of damage that he caused and his actions that initiated the whole event. In my unit, my job os to challenge the perpetrator. In this scenario, by all accounts, OP was the perpetrator. If he wasn't based off his own narrative, he'd have a hell of a time trying to convince folks otherwise.
If this was a woman I was dealing with, I'd hold her accountable too. What OP has submetted to the group was a justification for his violence. Now, he is looking for approval for his actions amongst the internet to make it seem as if it was a normal "reaction" to an issue that he encountered. I go as hard as I am on this post because he is trying to victimize this woman even further by his own depiction of the events. If it were a woman, I'd go just as hard on her.
Now that's intriguing. I realize it's going OT, but is there a reason behind how you phrased the underlined?
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"During" perhaps but right before...not so much. Why? Because what self respecting person would NOT file for divorce after being subjected to domestic violence?
Many DV victims suffer from markedly reduced self-esteem and thus, self-respect.
Otherwise it's too early for me, and I don't get your point.
Sorry.. :embarrassed:
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You can find a study that supports whatever position you take in any topic. I followed that sentence with my opinion why I took the stance I've taken with this particular thread originator's post. My answeres are all predicated on what the OP himself has divulged. Not from studies found in written form. He has given the information from which I've formulated my opinion,
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Whoa - I was only asking about the wording which suggests studies are fine, just not those found online.
Backing away now ...
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(In all seriousness - come on now. I worked alongside the FDA... I've never met a statistic that couldn't be fudged to support whatever angle you need it to support. Preach, choir, all that good stuff :) )