Hiring a Prostitute at a Hotel

My question involves civil rights in the State of: California, Hayward

I went for a massage in a hotel where the person offering massage services was supposed to come.
Initially I thought she already has a room in that hotel. But she didn't have one and asked me to get a room.
I got a room using my ID and paid for 1 day. After the massage when I went to the hotel lobby I saw
one wierd looking guy and I am concerned he may be from the law enforcement. He was talking to the hotel
manager after I left.

Am I in trouble?

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Quoting dds

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My question involves civil rights in the State of: California, Hayward

I went for a massage in a hotel where the person offering massage services was supposed to come.
Initially I thought she already has a room in that hotel. But she didn't have one and asked me to get a room.
I got a room using my ID and paid for 1 day. After the massage when I went to the hotel lobby I saw
one wierd looking guy and I am concerned he may be from the law enforcement. He was talking to the hotel
manager after I left.

Am I in trouble?

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No one here can possibly know if you are in trouble. However, chances are great that if you were in trouble for soliciting a prostitute you would have been arrested right then. While it is POSSIBLE that they are investigating and will later do a high-profile roundup of Johns, it's not typical.

Soooo ... did this "massage" have a happy ending, or not? However, I think I know the answer to that or you wouldn't be concerned about this. And since traveling massage therapists can come to YOUR HOME, I'm guessing this wasn't really a massage, was it?

No one from law enforcement approached me with questions/charges. Should I hire an attorney
or should I wait for charges, if any. Typically how long does it take for a city to file charges?
Yes, the massage had a happy ending but nothing else.

No need to hire an attorney unless or until you are questioned or charged.

Best bet would be to avoid prostitutes or you will be paranoid quite a bit. And since you have to arrange for a hotel room, I suspect that you have people at home you are hiding this proclivity from.

Thanks for the assurance. May be I am being paranoid. The suspicious guy may not be from law enforcement.
He was in regular clothes but starring at me.
Since I am new to all these, if charges are filed, would I have enough time to hire an attorney?
If charges are filed, would it be easy to prove any wrong doing during the massage, since
they don't have any proof what happened in the room?
Also, if charges are filed, would it impact my current job (I work for a reputed software company) or future
job prospects?
Yes, I learnt my lesson. I will never go to hotel with that intention.

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Quoting dds

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No one from law enforcement approached me with questions/charges.

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If any LE does approach you with questions/charges I suggest you exercise your right to remain silent and hire an attorney at that point.

Watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

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Quoting dds

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Thanks for the assurance. May be I am being paranoid. The suspicious guy may not be from law enforcement.
He was in regular clothes but starring at me.
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maybe he was the "massage therapists" "manager" (wink, wink)

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Thanks for the assurance. May be I am being paranoid. The suspicious guy may not be from law enforcement.
He was in regular clothes but starring at me.

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It could have been anyone ... maybe someone who knew what you were up to, or, just a grumpy kinda guy. That's not how a vice cop would behave unless he was very bad at his job.

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Since I am new to all these, if charges are filed, would I have enough time to hire an attorney?

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You would either receive a summons to court, or, you'd be arrested on a warrant and would be able to call an attorney from jail or have one appointed for you at arraignment.

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If charges are filed, would it be easy to prove any wrong doing during the massage, since
they don't have any proof what happened in the room?

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If they arrested you, they have proof of what happened in the room. However, if you got your happy ending, this was almost certainly NOT a sting operation.

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Also, if charges are filed, would it impact my current job (I work for a reputed software company) or future
job prospects?

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That's up to your employer. If your public image was important to your job function (as in marketing or sales), yeah, it might.

I'd be far more worried about reactions from family and friends.

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Yes, I learnt my lesson. I will never go to hotel with that intention.

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I take that to mean you will find some other way to support sex trafficking.

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It could have been anyone ... maybe someone who knew what you were up to, or, just a grumpy kinda guy. That's not how a vice cop would behave unless he was very bad at his job.


You would either receive a summons to court, or, you'd be arrested on a warrant and would be able to call an attorney from jail or have one appointed for you at arraignment.


If they arrested you, they have proof of what happened in the room. However, if you got your happy ending, this was almost certainly NOT a sting operation.


That's up to your employer. If your public image was important to your job function (as in marketing or sales), yeah, it might.

I'd be far more worried about reactions from family and friends.


I take that to mean you will find some other way to support sex trafficking.

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The "guy" was there are the lobby after my massage - not before.
Since they didn't arrest me, I am sure it was not a sting operation?
I am sure the woman who massaged me was not from LE.
So, if there is no proof would they even bother filing any charges?
If so, can I be at peace? The mental harrasement I am going through right now is itself a big punishment.

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Also since they didn't arrest me on the same day, can I assume that won't file any charges?
I know you mentioned this is not typical unless it's a high profile case. I am sure I don't belong
to that category!

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Quoting dds

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The "guy" was there are the lobby after my massage - not before.

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Could be any number of reasons why he was there.

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Since they didn't arrest me, I am sure it was not a sting operation?

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Since you were neither arrested AND you got off, I think it is safe to say that it was NOT a sting.

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I am sure the woman who massaged me was not from LE.
So, if there is no proof would they even bother filing any charges?

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If they have no proof of a crime, no ... the police are not in the habit of charging people with crimes for which they have no evidence,

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If so, can I be at peace? The mental harrasement I am going through right now is itself a big punishment.

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I'd say the odds are south of remote that any criminal charges would be pending.

Thanks a lot for the reassurance.
I was worrying if they are still investigating and may take more time to file charges.
So, I guess this is not the case.
Since the room is still in my name (I booked for a day) till 11AM today, would I be responsible
if the woman gets another customer to the same room? I guess if the cop catches they would be
in trouble - not me. Right?

In the future, I would go to a reputed massage parlor, if I needed a massage, than taking all these risks.

Actually it could imply you are her pimp and your charges could be even more serious.

I am now very concerned. I am not her pimp and don't even know her.
Just because the room is in my name for a day, can they charge without having any evidence?

Sure they have proof. The room is in your name and when she turns on big daddy dds so she gets a walk on her charges they have proof.

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Quoting jk

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Sure they have proof. The room is in your name and when she turns on big daddy dds so she gets a walk on her charges they have proof.

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I made a mistake by not checking out after my massage. She said she would check out at 11 AM today. I will make sure she does checkout.
I would get into trouble only if they get caught right? In case nothing happens, they won't come after me right?

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I am now very concerned. I am not her pimp and don't even know her.
Just because the room is in my name for a day, can they charge without having any evidence?

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No, the state cannot charge with no evidence. The state must have enough evidence to support probable cause to believe you committed the crime. It’s not a terribly high standard, but it does require that the state have something to support each element of the offense. Realistically if you had sex with her, then she was almost certainly not a cop nor working for the cops. They don’t let it get as far as having real sex for a variety of reasons. That means that in order to make it’s case against you, the state would almost certainly need the prostitute to testify that you paid her to have sex with you. Now maybe the police pressured her to do that, but I’m thinking it’s not likely.

As far as being charged as a pimp, they’d need more than just that the room was in your name. They’d also need her testimony that you were getting a cut of the fees from the prostitution or other evidence of that (which they’d not have if you weren’t the pimp). Again, maybe they pressured her to lie to say that you were the pimp, but I’m thinking that’s not likely either. The fact that the room in in your name is not a great fact for you (and why you’d let her continue to use that room after you left is beyond me) but the state needs more than that to tie you to being a pimp.

Thanks for your comments, makes perfect sense.
Yes, I made several blunders yesterday including letting her use the room after I left. I don't think she can testify that I was her pimp
since I never had any association before the massage (and no evidence)
So, does it mean the chances of me getting into trouble are very remote - both my massage (since I was not caught in the act) or letting her use
the room in my name (since there is no evidence linking us)? All this assuming they got caught by the cops in the act. Right?

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Thanks for your comments, makes perfect sense.
Yes, I made several blunders yesterday including letting her use the room after I left. I don't think she can testify that I was her pimp
since I never had any association before the massage (and no evidence)
So, does it mean the chances of me getting into trouble are very remote - both my massage (since I was not caught in the act) or letting her use
the room in my name (since there is no evidence linking us)? All this assuming they got caught by the cops in the act. Right?

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you do realize that criminals often lie in order to escape prosecution, right? Of course she could testify you were her pimp and if it got her out of being charged she might do it.

Oh for the love of sweet holy heaven. Don't break the law and you won't have to worry about such things.

Even if she lies, can she produce evidence that I was her pimp? Is it possible to fabricate evidence?

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Quoting dds

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Even if she lies, can she produce evidence that I was her pimp? Is it possible to fabricate evidence?

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Her statement becomes the evidence against you

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Her statement becomes the evidence against you

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Oh that's not good. I hope she doesn't get caught till 11AM (my checkout time).
I guess after that I am of the hook.

I look at this way. You cannot undo what has been done. There is nothing you can do now that will change what charges might occur from this. I think it’s likely that nothing will come of this, but no one here can guarantee it. Why worry yourself sick over something that might never happen? If you do get charged with something, that’s when you worry and get an attorney to assist you. In the meantime, learn from this and not repeat the mistake of violating the law.

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I look at this way. You cannot undo what has been done. There is nothing you can do now that will change what charges might occur from this. I think it’s likely that nothing will come of this, but no one here can guarantee it. Why worry yourself sick over something that might never happen? If you do get charged with something, that’s when you worry and get an attorney to assist you. In the meantime, learn from this and not repeat the mistake of violating the law.

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I agree. I know I am just being paranoid - but would like to prepare for something worse, since I have never violated any law - not even traffic

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Thanks a lot for the reassurance.
I was worrying if they are still investigating and may take more time to file charges.
So, I guess this is not the case.
Since the room is still in my name (I booked for a day) till 11AM today, would I be responsible
if the woman gets another customer to the same room? I guess if the cop catches they would be
in trouble - not me. Right?

In the future, I would go to a reputed massage parlor, if I needed a massage, than taking all these risks.

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If you left her in the room, yeah, you could be in trouble!

This is not an uncommon scam for prostitution ... get a John to rent the room, give him a "freebie" and then bring in a parade of clients into a room under the John's name afterwards. You get a smile and run the risk of a number of charges, and the girl gets a clean and virtually untraceable place to do her business.

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Quoting cdwjava

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If you left her in the room, yeah, you could be in trouble!

This is not an uncommon scam for prostitution ... get a John to rent the room, give him a "freebie" and then bring in a parade of clients into a room under the John's name afterwards. You get a smile and run the risk of a number of charges, and the girl gets a clean and virtually untraceable place to do her business.

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She is also on the room but I used my credit card to pay. It was only for a day till 11AM (checkout). I will make sure
the room is checked out by then.

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When would I know if i I am going to be charged? Is it right away or after they complete their investigation?

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That Woman is checkout out right now
I don't think LE knows about yesterday's incident. Otherwise would't they have blocked anyone of her clients from coming to the room? Or would they see how many clients come before they start their
investigation?

Just spoke to the hotel to confirm that she checked out of the hotel just now.
Can I rest assured that I am not being investigated ?
I learnt my lessons the hard way (mental torture the last 24 hours) it could have been worse ...

Thanks for all your advice and support. Great forum!

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In the future, I would go to a reputed massage parlor, if I needed a massage, than taking all these risks.

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It's usually a bad idea to have sex with a prostitute illegally in a place that can be traced back to you.

It's much safer to go to a massage parlor and to do that kind of stuff there. Just be sure that you park your car a block or two away from the parlor.

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My question involves civil rights in the State of: California, Hayward

I went for a massage in a hotel where the person offering massage services was supposed to come.
Initially I thought she already has a room in that hotel. But she didn't have one and asked me to get a room.
I got a room using my ID and paid for 1 day. After the massage when I went to the hotel lobby I saw
one wierd looking guy and I am concerned he may be from the law enforcement. He was talking to the hotel
manager after I left.

Am I in trouble?

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If the girl came into the hotel lobby wearing some kind of sexually suggestive outfit, then hotel staff may have become suspicious and called the police.

I'm in Chicago, and I read about this sort of thing happening in some Chicago hotel. In the Chicago case, though, the hotel staff did not know which room the woman had entered. A police officer came to the lobby and waited for her to come back down. When she didn't come down in a timely fashion, he left.

Bottom line: If you're going to have sex with a prostitute in a hotel (as opposed to a massage parlor), then at least make sure that she dresses conservatively in the hotel lobby.

No. The lady didn't come in any provocative dress. I didn't see any cop in the hotel at any time I was there. Unless the guy who appeared wierd and who came in ordinary clothes was actuall a cop.
I doubt the hotel manager would have called the cops. If they had called the cops they would have raided the room and charged both of us. The fact that the woman checked out of the hotel at 11am (since I paid for just 1day). If they had suspected something wrong they would have not let the woman spend till 11 am at the same room.

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I doubt the hotel manager would have called the cops. If they had called the cops they would have raided the room and charged both of us.

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The cops would have raided the room ONLY if the cops knew which room the woman went to. If you came into the hotel first, got the room, and then went up, and then she came to the room later, the hotel staff wouldn't know which room she was in.

Both checked in at the same time (she was on the room with her ID, though I paid using my CC).
So the hotel staff knew very well the room #
Regarding the 2 issues
a. I solicited the woman - since I was not charged right then, I guess I am ok. Also no one caught us in the act and so no evidence
b. I was a pimp - since I paid with my CC, since she already checked out of the room, I guess this shouldn't be an issue for me.

There were no cops at the hotel (except for one wierd looking guy in plain clothes)

Or unless they will investigate later, since it's a long weekend?

Moreover the woman said she is a regular client of the hotel and frequently checks in there. So, I would assume hotel staff may not have suspected
her and so unlikely they called the cops.'

In real life, these details don't work like they do on TV (for the most part). And I'm not going to relate how these details might be conducted here. Suffice it to say that the odds of you being charged for anything at this point is slim to none. And before you continue to engage in this sort of activity I suggest you educate yourself as to the origins of most these girls and the world in which they live. It is NOT a victimless crime.